Wanna Catch UFOs on Video? Tennessee knows how.

reply to post by DohBama

sun reflecting off of orbiting satellites look exactly like those "ufo's" coincidence? um, maybe not.

Interesting theory. I've never seen examples of satellites being imaged by commercial grade cameras during the day and was not aware that it was possible. Could you provide the source for this information?

reply to post by esteay812

I also have a couple of other ideas which may help out this little project, though it may take a week or so to put together (I have to wait 'til my broseph is off work to use his cam.)

This is good stuff. Would you mind posting something about it here as well.

Originally posted by dainoyfb
reply to post by TallWhites

 

Oh I totally agree, but those "things" are travelling way too fast to be just carried by the wind. Sorry I'm not buying it.

Could you explain the method you have used to determine the speed at which the objects are moving. I have not been able to find a way to establish this because there is no indication of the distance between the object and the camera or how large the object is.

Yes, its called common sense. When I tried John Bro method I zoomed in with my camcorder X20. Common sense logic told me these objects are at least a few miles in the upper atmosphere. No way are they closeby.

So if they're a few miles up in the sky, and can travel across the sky that quickly they must be moving at at least a few hundred MPH. I dont know any dust, pollen or insects that can haul ass that quickly, do you??!!

reply to post by TallWhites


Common sense can be difficult to quantify. You should understand that since I develop advanced imaging systems for a living and have been for many years my common sense may be difficult to relate to yours.
Unless you can explain the mathematical process you use to determine the speed of the objects and show me the numbers I will remain dumbfounded. I'm sure there would be more than a few engineers at NASA and in the military that would also benefit immensely from your newly discovered answer to this age old technical limitation.

Originally posted by dainoyfb
reply to post by TallWhites

 

Common sense can be difficult to quantify. You should understand that since I develop advanced imaging systems for a living and have been for many years my common sense may be difficult to relate to yours.
Unless you can explain the mathematical process you use to determine the speed of the objects and show me the numbers I will remain dumbfounded. I'm sure there would be more than a few engineers at NASA and in the military that would also benefit immensely from your newly discovered answer to this age old technical limitation.

If you look into binoculars and watch an airplane fly overhead, or watch a speedboat go over water, you can roughly guess the range of speed its travelling in. When I say range I mean a very large range. My range estimate of those "things" in the sky would be anywhere between 200 to 2000 miles an hour. Again, even if I was wrong and they travelled 50 mph, I dont know any pollen, dust or insect that can go that fast. Not even close!! (and in a straight line to boot)

Like I said before, sometimes you have to drop the scientific bullsh!t and just use your common sense





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reply to post by TallWhites


But you were not looking with binoculars (which are stereoscopic hence providing depth perception). You were looking through a camera view finder (which is a monocular device). If you had been looking with RADAR or a laser range finder it would have been a different situation as well, but you were not.
Also the size of an airplane or speed boat can be defined either precisely or over a range. The size of the unknown objects in the videos cannot be determined so their distance from the camera can not be estimated.
Stating something as fact when you do not posses a strong understanding of the subject or supporting sources does not help anyone here. It corrupts the thread with the efforts of the other more thorough participants efforts to back up or dismiss your claims for you. If you want to participate in the truth finding effort of something please make sure that something you state as fact has some grounds. It would be helpful in this case if you started to acquire and exploit knowledge about such things as wind velocities and behavior at different altitudes, angular size as related to optics, monocular vision vs binocular vision, basic image analysis, range finding, camera technology etc.
There are plenty of other threads on ATS discussing the limitations of determining size, distance, and velocity in regards to image analysis of UFOs. You may find from reviewing them that your work has already been done for you.

Edit for typo

[edit on 26-4-2009 by dainoyfb]

I stand by what I wrote, these objects IMO are travelling at high rate of speed.
And they appear to be intelligently controlled

My last word on this, its just my humble opinion

I can understand where both of you guys are coming from.

If your senses tell you that the object is far away, instinctly, you merge it with your rationalizing sense and give yourself a rough estimate. Most everyone does it everyday, when getting ready to pull onto the highway from a side road for example.

I can also see where, to get a more accurate basis, you would need to know for sure where the object is in relation to the viewer, the size of the object, and distance traveled.

Both of you guys are right, I believe. If the object is, in fact, a good distance away and is traveling at such a high speed, it would seem to rule out the possibility of jet-stream powered flight speeds.

However, if it is in-turn a dust particle or other tiny airborn particle, there is no way - in my opinion - that it could be viewed from more than several feet from the camera. This close relation would make it seem to be going fast when, in fact, it may just be it's spacial orientation to the camera or viewer.

I am going to try and get these videos soon so we can have some things to pick at a bit more. Until then I encourage everyone to record what they can where they are and share it here - even if you don't believe you have captured anything on your footage.

Again, it would be nice to have different footage, for evidence or lack there of, from all over the world here for us to pick apart. If you can be pro-active and get your camera, film 20-30mins., and upload it here for us all to check out it would be great. It wouldn't take you more than an hour, if you time it right, to do this. It wouldn't take us all more than a few days to have 10 - 20 videos to pull apart.

Give it a try. Talk to you guys soon.



[edit on 26-4-2009 by esteay812]

reply to post by esteay812

I have several friends living in Johnson City Tenn, and I visit as often as I can, and let me tell you, there are quite a few things I have learned and done for my first time while on those visits, including drinking moonshine made from grapes, but taping ufo's in broad daylight isn't one of them!


I will have to call up my friends and have them try this method, see what they come up with, we did see several UFO's once while camping on the river there, then again, it could've been the 'shine

You know seriously,I was trying to find this!I live in Columbia,Tennessee and remember seeing a WSMV(News channel 4) report on this in 03 or 04'.I couldnt find it anywhere!Great job!Star and flag,I will try it tomorrow as I didnt remember until now how to do it!This is why I love ATS...

On a side note:I have seen quite a few unexplained lights in the sky here,as well other friends of mine

[edit on 4/26/2009 by jkrog08]

reply to post by space cadet


I know what you mean about the moonshine, I take mine charred. It's possible that stuff made you see something.

There are a lot of crazy character here in TN, especially towards Cocke County, and locals always love when an out-of-towner comes around so they can show them all the cool tricks. Kind of like this: What is the last thing a redneck says before he dies? "Hey Bubba, watch this!"

Really thought there is quite a bit of stuff going on in the sky.

UFOlogy IS looking up.

reply to post by jkrog08


Like I said in the previous post, there is a lot of stuff going on in our skies.

I am glad you found the video here on ATS, this place is great for finding stuff like this. I hope you have a chance to try it and post what you get on here.

reply to post by esteay812


Are you from TN?

I will post anything I get,lol,although how do I block the sun?

Originally posted by space cadet
reply to post by esteay812

 

I have several friends living in Johnson City Tenn, and I visit as often as I can, and let me tell you, there are quite a few things I have learned and done for my first time while on those visits, including drinking moonshine made from grapes

Technically, anything from a home 'still would be moonshine but the term is more commonly applied to whiskey. What you're talking about would be brandy, another form of nectar.

[edit on 4/26/2009 by Phage]

reply to post by Phage


Your right Phage. There is single-wide trailor that is a bar, off the beaten path in Cosby TN, called Fort Marx. It is a moonshine bar that that sells cherries, cherry moonshine, grape moonshine, strawberry and so on. That stuff is pretty much all just a normal liquor you can get at any liquor store with grapes or whatever left in it for flavoring.

The good stuff there, if you ever make it there, is called Panther-Piss. It is the real deal. They sell it by the shot, or you can by a quart for $10 - you can get a quart of charred (moonshine that has an added step of charcoal filtering to the process) for $15.

Well I put this on here, let's hope they don't get shut down tommorow. By the way, I haven't been there in a couple years, so I hope they are still open.

Originally posted by TallWhites
Yes, its called common sense. When I tried John Bro method I zoomed in with my camcorder X20. Common sense logic told me these objects are at least a few miles in the upper atmosphere. No way are they closeby.

So if they're a few miles up in the sky, and can travel across the sky that quickly they must be moving at at least a few hundred MPH. I dont know any dust, pollen or insects that can haul ass that quickly, do you??!!

Common sense usually fails. Prove me wrong and estimate the distance of the shuttle in the picture:

reply to post by xetex

How can the "UFO's" hide "in the sun", if the sun is at a different bearing / elevation depending upon where the observer is? It's not as if the "UFO's" would only be hiding from you.


[edit on 27-4-2009 by Sam60]

Originally posted by daniel_g
Common sense usually fails. Prove me wrong and estimate the distance of the shuttle in the picture:

I'll have a punt on 130 yrds to the front of the building and maybe 300 to the shuttle???

I have no idea how big a shuttle is, I will check wiki now.

I too have some pictures of that kind of alien craft...What I want to know is who is guideing them?who those crafts belongs to....The Greys?'cause i really hope not....i need some help please...from here at daylight the crafts can be seen only by camera or videorecorder,my camera has 8 mp,but at night.....u can see alot of strange lights changing their colors and moving around with very fast speed....
So..if anyone knows anything about diamond-shaped craft...please let me know....
Have a nice day

Originally posted by daniel_g

Originally posted by TallWhites
Yes, its called common sense. When I tried John Bro method I zoomed in with my camcorder X20. Common sense logic told me these objects are at least a few miles in the upper atmosphere. No way are they closeby.

So if they're a few miles up in the sky, and can travel across the sky that quickly they must be moving at at least a few hundred MPH. I dont know any dust, pollen or insects that can haul ass that quickly, do you??!!

Common sense usually fails. Prove me wrong and estimate the distance of the shuttle in the picture:

I'd say anywhere between 50 to 2,000 feet.

But here's the catch, I'm almost 100% sure its not under 50 feet!!
So that brings me back to John Bro objects, I'm almost positive they are at least a few hundred feet up in the sky.

And if thats true then these objects are travelling at great speeds