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I remember getting a call from the, uh, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "You know we've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is, is pull it." Uh, and they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse.
Release date: September 23, 2007
Regarding WTC 7: The long-awaited US Government NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) report on the collapse of WTC 7 is due to be published at the end of this year (although it has been delayed already a few times [ adding fuel to the conspiracy theorists fires!]). That report should explain the cause and mechanics of the collapse in great detail. Early on the afternoon of September 11th 2001, following the collapse of WTC 1 & 2, I feared a collapse of WTC 7 (as did many on my staff).
The reasons are as follows:
1 - Although prior to that day high-rise structures had never collapsed, The collapse of WTC 1 & 2 showed that certain high-rise structures subjected to damage from impact and from fire will collapse.
2. The collapse of WTC 1 damaged portions of the lower floors of WTC 7.
3. WTC 7, we knew, was built on a small number of large columns providing an open Atrium on the lower levels.
4. numerous fires on many floors of WTC 7 burned without sufficient water supply to attack them.
For these reasons I made the decision (without consulting the owner, the mayor or anyone else - as ranking fire officer, that decision was my responsibility) to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after that order was given, WTC 7 collapsed.
Conspiracy theories abound and I believe firmly that all of them are without merit.
Regards, Dan Nigro
Chief of Department FDNY (retired)
"No manual firefighting actions were taken by FDNY."
"There was no firefighting in WTC 7."
"By 11:30 a.m., the fire commander in charge of that area, Assistant Chief Frank Fellini, ordered firefighters away from [WTC 7] for safety reasons."
"I walked around it (Building 7). I saw a hole. I didn't see a hole bad enough to knock a building down, though. Yeah there was definitely fire in the building, but I didn't hear any... I didn't hear any creaking, or... I didn't hear any indication that it was going to come down. And all of a sudden the radios exploded and everyone started screaming 'get away, get away, get away from it!'... It was at that moment... I looked up, and it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. The thing started peeling in on itself... Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running, and the #'s hitting the ground behind me, and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... Yeah it had some damage to it, but nothing like what they're saying... Nothing to account for what we saw..."
CDI: "Pull it" is when they actually pull it down.
pull down -
1. To demolish; destroy: pull down an old office building.
2. To reduce to a lower level.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
You will be interested to know that there were also explosions going off in the lower levels of WTC7 as well. If you haven't seen the following video already, it's an interview of Emergency Coordinator Barry Jennings who talks about the explosions that trapped him and a co-worker and that also destroyed the lobby in WTC7 as well. Mind you he states BOTH planes had already hit, so the explosions weren't from impacting aircraft. And BOTH towers were visually still standing. Here is the video of the interview:
Originally posted by thedman
Release date: September 23, 2007
Regarding WTC 7: The long-awaited US Government NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) report on the collapse of WTC 7 is due to be published at the end of this year (although it has been delayed already a few times [ adding fuel to the conspiracy theorists fires!]). That report should explain the cause and mechanics of the collapse in great detail. Early on the afternoon of September 11th 2001, following the collapse of WTC 1 & 2, I feared a collapse of WTC 7 (as did many on my staff).
The reasons are as follows:
1 - Although prior to that day high-rise structures had never collapsed, The collapse of WTC 1 & 2 showed that certain high-rise structures subjected to damage from impact and from fire will collapse.
2. The collapse of WTC 1 damaged portions of the lower floors of WTC 7.
3. WTC 7, we knew, was built on a small number of large columns providing an open Atrium on the lower levels.
4. numerous fires on many floors of WTC 7 burned without sufficient water supply to attack them.
For these reasons I made the decision (without consulting the owner, the mayor or anyone else - as ranking fire officer, that decision was my responsibility) to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after that order was given, WTC 7 collapsed.
Conspiracy theories abound and I believe firmly that all of them are without merit.
Regards, Dan Nigro
Chief of Department FDNY (retired)
Not that I expect you to believe it.....
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Moreover, being a developer and lease holder, it's clear we would have had much, much, MUCH more contact with fire department authorities in his transactions I.E. inspectors, getting permits, following fire codes, than he ever would with demolitions technicians.
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
He never said any such thing about explosions going off before the planes hit.
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
He was trapped specifically BECUASE the towers fell.
Originally posted by Griff
Really? A developer? Someone who buys buildings, destroys them and rebuilds another building wouldn't know demolition lingo?
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
That is absolutely false. Did you even watch the video interview of him that I posted? He specifically states that when they reached the 6th floor, there was a huge explosion and they went back UP. Then he says both towers were still standing after they went back up.
I'm starting to notice your game. You either didn't read what I posted or you twisted my words around. You also didn't watch the video interview of Mr. Jennings and are twisting his words around also.
But at least you do agree with the rest of my post right that "Larry" was talking out the side of his rear end? I'm glad you posted that though thank you b/c I never knew there was proof he was a lying sac of fecal.
Originally posted by Griff
You don't find that intriguing at all?
Originally posted by CameronFox
A multi-billionaire with an inflated ego hamming it up for a camera? No, never heard of them.