New flu with high mortality rate spreading in Mexico

reply to post by StrangeBrew


The US equity markets do not seem to be responding to the story.

This gives me the thought that this is not "the big push", but rather a smaller, yet dangerous outbreak.

The big money boys will pull all their money out of US equities if something really big is coming.

That's one way of looking at it anyway.

I am not freaking out about this....yet. But I've been thinking lately how I live in a rural area (thank goodness) and wondering. With all the people outside of cities in the podunk areas and all the guns they typically own, how would they possibly be able to control everybody? They wouldn't that's the answer. Unless they had a pandemic then it would spread to everyone with no problem. And if the disease is in the vaccine, each little town will administer it and if you don't take it you will be much easier to round up. Hence the "camps". So if this is the real deal, I just hope it isn't too painful. Either way, they can't touch me only the bag of meat I currently reside in.

Originally posted by Akkadian
Oh look just 1 more reason to protect our border to the south. Hopefully this will wake up people in Washington.

Unlikely

Yup. Most unlikely. Seeing as our Secretary of Homeland Security thinks the 9-11 terrorists came into the U.S. through Canada. Her reality bubble has burst, and I don't see much hope for the rest of administration to start securing the southern border anytime in the near future.

Ruh oh....sounds like the "Spanish Flue" part II.

Not good.

Originally posted by dtice
I am not freaking out about this....yet. But I've been thinking lately how I live in a rural area (thank goodness) and wondering. With all the people outside of cities in the podunk areas and all the guns they typically own, how would they possibly be able to control everybody? They wouldn't that's the answer. Unless they had a pandemic then it would spread to everyone with no problem. And if the disease is in the vaccine, each little town will administer it and if you don't take it you will be much easier to round up. Hence the "camps". So if this is the real deal, I just hope it isn't too painful. Either way, they can't touch me only the bag of meat I currently reside in.

Look for a drop in the US equity markets of about 2000 points before "the next big thing".

The big money boys can and do pay for inside info.

For now that's the way I'm analyzing it.

reply to post by dtice

People in the rural areas are also less likely to participate in the census or get traditional medical care so how would they know who hasn't been to a doctor? so many people can't afford to go to doctors and so many people not employed or participating in the census. Also unemployed people who have given up hope and are no longer part of "the system".
I always participate in the census but a lot of people don't and have a long history of not trusting the government. You have people who are legal US born citizens but may have family living in the US who are not. The anti-immigration hostilities contribute to the problem...if you want to call this particular bit a chaos a problem.

Now lets pile this one into the mix

Fort Detrick disease samples may be missing

Army criminal investigators are looking into the possibility that disease samples are missing from biolabs at Fort Detrick.

www.fredericknewspost.com...

Have a nice but thoughtful day
Tae

interesting posts on the vaccines and medical business angle on this topic. You guys maybe correct, but time will tell if we see a new vaccine campaign or not. I still recall seeing long lines at the start of every flu season when they promote flu shots to the elderly, I can't imagine what those lines would look like if we suddenly need a new vaccine. But I'm not sure if this is as simple as new vaccine campaign or something to spurt some medical industry angle, this reminds me of a few years ago when Bird Flu and Hoof and Mouth were all the talk. I think Nature is kicking in high gear with the help of others to cull the flock.

and yes that South Florida 4-6 hour killer meningitis is frightening and of the most concern to me, since I have no intentions of travelling to Mexico.

btw, anyone remember when playing connect the dots was fun.. not so anymore.

[edit on 4-23-2009 by worldwatcher]

reply to post by StrangeBrew


Funny how 3 vials of virus that causes flu like symptoms comes up missing in Md. (that supposedly is a horse flu of some sort and the original strain can be transmitted to humans by a mosquito bite but with only a 1% mortality rate; however, we do not know what mutations were created in this lab virus). A few days before the announcement of the missing vials 30 horses just drop dead in Fl and now there is a killer virus loose in Mexico that has a high mortality rate (of course there are not many mosquitoes in Mexico in that nice warm humid environment now are there?)(sarcasm).

OK nothing suspicious there, I must just be paranoid.

[edit on 4/23/2009 by DarrylGalasso]

Well, I can't really say about the horses. Wasn't that a case of a banned vitamin cocktail or something? Maybe I'm misinformed.

The 21 polo ponies that died Sunday in Wellington were all injected before the game with a government-banned vitamin supplement called Biodyl -- and team members believe a tainted dose caused their deaths, the team's captain said.

www.miamiherald.com...

I would, however, like to request a good link to the markets (Equity?) if someone has one. Someone recommended to keep an eye on this?

Thanks

Originally posted by StrangeBrew

As we now know, it was a pure example of a useless vaccine peddled by inside interests.

Interesting in that two family friends died from that outbreak in one week. My Mother who had the shot never caught it. She would have died if she had. The two who died were her close friends and they were all exposed.

I had a 105 fever for five days and nearly died. I was a healthy fit young man. I was at work feeling fine and within ten minutes I was reduced to a shivering, weak person who could barely walk. It came on so fast my Boss thought I was faking until he realized how high my fever was.

How, I wonder did this fake vaccine work for everyone and still be fake. The people who got the shot did not get sick?

Since I barely lived through the Swine Flu and am old enough to remember I can not buy the fake vaccine story. That is a myth of which there are too many in the conspiracy realm.

reply to post by Johnny_Sokko


There was a report last night that a pharmacy had admitted to making an error in mixing a supplement. I have not seen anything about it since. I saw that late last night but I'm not sure which channel I was on.

Since disease has been a reality since long before we had any medical science; why is it so many believe all disease is all of the sudden man made and a conspiracy? Perhaps people need to stop watching so many fiction movies and spend some time in the real world. Or is there and epidemic of paranoia?

If they were going to do us all in they would have done it by now. They have had that ability for some time. So what are they waiting for? To make more money off conspiracy books?

These damn medical conspiracies are dangerous. They cause otherwise intelligent Parents to risk their child,s lives for nothing but paranoid delusions. Disease is natural and vaccines save lives. Everything else is pure nonsense and dangerous nonsense at that.

Look at the lie in this thread about the Swine Flu vaccine. Look at the lies about the other vaccines that save millions of children from going through the hell my generation went through with measles and mumps and the gift the Polio vaccine was.

reply to post by Blaine91555


We need a special presidential commission to study the dangers of an epidemic or poorly done vaccines.

The commission could see if the threat was real or existential. Or possibly a real existential threat.

Still another commission needs to be formed to study the viability of commissions in general.

And there must be a Czar of Commissions to oversee it all.

There seems to be nothing on this in the normal places....

There is a very troubling HN51 A Influenza outbreak in Egypt at the moment:

For both cases, infection with H5N1 avian influenza was confirmed by the Egyptian Central Public Health Laboratory and subsequently confirmed by the U.S. Naval Medical Research Unit No. 3 (NAMRU-3). Of the 66 cases confirmed to date in Egypt, 23 have been fatal.

WHO emerging outbreaks April 21st

Nothing either from the CDC, except what WorldWatcher has shown already....

Travel notices at CDC

The Mexico official page of the World Health organisations emerging and Pandemic/Epidemic watch lists something from 1996!

Mexico

6 August 1996
1996 - Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis in Mexico

Epidemic and Pandemic Alert and Response (EPR)

More and BETTER sources needed, to confirm if this story is even true.

I doubt Cananada would go on alert without the US and such like following, and the WHO and CDC missing it entirely, as they would HAVE TO report their action to the WHO as they did it!

Which the above and below shows they have not:

Epidemic and Pandemic Alert and Response (EPR)
Canada

11 October 2006
Botulism in the United States and Canada

WHO Canada


Kind regards

Elf

My parents (in their mid 50's) came back from Cancun on April 11th (with the 'sniffles'). By April 13th, they had a full-blown 'flu' - seriously sick.
I talked to them this morning (after reading the CBC article) and they said they are finaly starting to feel better (appitite is back, no more nausia) - 1.5 weeks since they got sick.
It's weird that it can kill healthy adults (25-44) but kids and older adults only get sick.
Note: the CBC article I read said that it only affected people over the last week - I'm calling BS.

reply to post by Blaine91555


I agree with you. Diseases have existed since day one. I think it is possible that the government knows something is imminent based on classified scientific data and that would explain the precautions they are taking like:

1) FEMA camps
2) FEMA Coffins
3) FEMA Trains
4) Assigning Army and Marines to NorthCom in violation of Posse Comitatus
5) What appears to be preparations for Martial Law.

FEMA is after all designed to respond to emergencies like pandemic.

I think this is probably the worst translation ever but blame BABEL FISH LOL:

babelfish.yahoo.com... ate

For the Spanish version:

www.milenio.com...

From what I can gather it's bad but not the BIG ONE bad!

PS dunno what the 'ate' is on the end of the link, but it isn't there when I try to edit, so there you are!





[edit on 23-4-2009 by kiwifoot]

Bird flu breaking news -
Updated every 10 minutes
www.birdflubreakingnews.com...

Originally posted by Johnius
My parents (in their mid 50's) came back from Cancun on April 11th (with the 'sniffles'). By April 13th, they had a full-blown 'flu' - seriously sick.
I talked to them this morning (after reading the CBC article) and they said they are finaly starting to feel better (appitite is back, no more nausia) - 1.5 weeks since they got sick.
It's weird that it can kill healthy adults (25-44) but kids and older adults only get sick.
Note: the CBC article I read said that it only affected people over the last week - I'm calling BS.

If I remember correctly from school here's the reason.
Adults of the middle age group usually have stronger immune systems than older adults or youngsters. (correct me if i'm wrong here.)
Since their immune systems is stronger the reaction to the flu is greater. This flu would lodge itself in a persons lungs and infect everything. Unfortunately the immune systems would attack infected lung cells. And if all of the lung cells are infected then that means your own immune system would kill off all your lung cells and you could no longer breath.
Which is a huge problem for that person.

I hope I explained that correctly it's been close to 20 years now since science class.

In any case those FEMA camps and plethora of plastic coffins are starting to make some sense now. Looks like someone might have a crystal ball to look into the future.