I was a Gray Alien in past life

reply to post by lowki


“Christ or Jmanuel is just from the Mammalian Federation, which in our terminology is a socialist order.”
That is not the real Christ!

“Though admittedly, all cultures have their own ‘strange ideas’.“
Obviously the grays, too…

I see sex-suppressive policy as a trick for manipulating people, supported by certain foreign presences on the Earth.
“Foreign? Judaism, Christianity, Hindu people? That's about as local as it gets.”
So who gave them their religions? That is what foreign presence on Earth did! In order to manipulate...

Don’t worry, the Pleiadians will come back.
“Ummm, they didn't leave. They are socialist bureaucrats, though people don't like them very much, so they are somewhat powerless to ‘help us’.”
What help do the grays want from them? Maybe something else than they wanted to give? And I don't believe that they are bureaucrats, but that they are more developed than the grays!

The grays and reptilians will at the end not be able to take final control over and enslave us.
“Have you read what I said? Don't you see that I'm completely for freedom?”
Freedom of the grays, in any case…

“Though some grays and reptilians might like it the old fashioned way.”
What way is that?

“For instance reptiles abandon their children, complete freedom.”
Freedom? Irresponsibility!

“Grays are hybrids so do actually tend to their children…”
Artificially bred in artificial wombs… I prefer other and more natural ways…

Why did the grays come here?
“Well the usual explanation is nuclear testing.”
So that is why they want us to fight nuclear wars?

And what do they want with us?
“To live here, and sustain species.”
So we should sustain the grays? Feed them with our energies?

Some answers to some extent confirm things I mentioned in my summarizing statements above. Even though you will not have intended it that way…

In the Internet an article on DISINFORMATION about the Nibiruans is found: www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
I have a strong impression that this thread in a similar way is intentional disinformation about the grays, by their ‘agent’!
I am really very skeptical about all this and simply cannot trust the grays!
I hope that the readers will not too easily buy all the promotion of grays presented here, but will make themselves serious thoughts about what they should believe.

reply to post by lowki2


What is your life like now? What part of the country do you live in? Do you have a job here? What are your goals living with us humans? Do you see a human doctor?

Originally posted by lowki
Imagine someone breaks into your home,
and then starts shooting at you.
What would you do?

Phil did exactly that,
drilling into a base,
and once coming down, shooting occupants,
so I'm not sure what he's complaining about.

That he only lost a few fingers,
well he must have had surplus karma.

Phil Schneider was a hoaxer.
A liar that gives a number of facts about his own life that don't add up.
He even claimed his dad was involved in the "Philadelphia Experiment."
He had ample time to show his multi-mega page government documents but never revealed any of them.

Doing what he even claimed to have done to an "alien base" is impossible, and you, claiming to be who you are, should already know that.

He and a group of people didn't accidentally stumble on a group of underground aliens by drilling through a rock wall. They didn't get into a fire-fight because the aliens were suddenly surprised by a loud drill they seemingly ignored till he busted through the rock wall.

I would image, given this groups alleged technological advancements, that they could have stopped this from happening before anyone even got inside the giant drill.

I'm sorry, but the fact that you give credit to that obvious hoax (among other things I've read here) tells me you are just playing off what is already out here.

Most of which is nothing but lies.
From the average hoax, to high level manipulation, seeding misinformation is just plain wrong.

You haven't revealed a thing that would give credit to your words, and there are quite a few things that would.

Instead you simply rehash the same old ideas about "what the Greys really are and want".
I think you are just having a bit of fun at best, or intentionally misleading at worst.

You don't really know what is going on, do you?

- Lee

Just to add, here's a little something from the man who claims to have worked 17 years for the government, but forgot to do the math:

1979 - worked at Dulce
1947 - born
32 - Phils age while at Dulce
-------------------------
1981 - Last job
1947 - born
34 - Age when Phil ceased working (went on SSI)
17 - Years Phil claimed he worked in government

17 - How old he would have been when he went to work in the government.

Where are his college years in those 17 years? There aren't any however he claimed to be an Aerospace Engineer, Structural Engineer, Geological Engineer.

Schneider is a mockery to the UFO Community.

aliencases.conforums.com

Nothing but a fraud.

- Lee

reply to post by lee anoma


I will not strive to defend Phil Schneider, but is needs to be considered that IF he was telling the truth, one will seek ALL EVER POSSIBLE ways to deny it, and declare him as a liar and a psychopath. Therefore, all the attempts to the latter could, in a way, actually be some evidence to his advantage. Cf. the statement of his ex-wife here: www.apfn.org...

It would not be the first time that the arguments against someone who talks about uncomfortable facts are in themselves lies. Cf. 9/11, Jane Bürgermeister and so many more cases.

Therefore, the case Phil Schneider is definitely not decided yet and it remains possible that he at least in part told some truths that we are not supposed to know.

About drilling a hole down in the rock and putting a kind of elevator in it: this is the same technology recently used in Chile to save mine workers. So at least that technology does exist. The main difference is that there were no grays down there, but human workers...

I here for a conclusion from my side wish to elaborate a little more on a choice of items from our discussions above. This will most probably not change your mind (but maybe you will think about it some day in the future…), but I hope that it may help readers to make up their own minds.

“I ascended when I was a pirate through negative love (acceptance) of my fellow pirates.” I suppose that you can really ascend only through positive love! ’Negative love’ = ‘no love’, logically… So did you really ASCEND? Or maybe enter a kind of dead-end lane, manipulated by (other) grays…

And what is done to those babies in artificial wombs who are not good enough? “They die or commit suicide. Though it's quite different from earth judicial system, from my experience they asked what I would like, I requested a death sentence, so they complied.” That reveals a lot that you probably didn’t mean to say about yourself and the grays… about cruelty and having no idea what real love is.

“I drew a picture once, while I was in Thailand. of a gray sitting suckered on top of a Nordic.” You seem to admit that such things happen… “*shrugs* oh well.” Thanks for admitting something, after all… “There was some soul competition for host-bodies, but I'm experienced at host-body capture.” … “Well I'm pretty sure I'm a walk in. “ A walk-in take-over can occur by agreement with the soul leaving, or it can be forced, against the will of that soul. Makes me wonder how it was here. But it also makes me wonder if you are, maybe, simply POSSESSED by a gray! And not a full-blown walk-in… Like that Nordic…

The illusion is to believe that what you have is all there is. “I'm not really sure what to classify that as, perhaps small-mindedness, or ignorance. I myself am aware of a wide range of emotions...” I was talking about the emotions that the grays are said to have given up far back in the past, keeping only comparatively few. If you really were a gray, you may not know what I mean, since you have lost what you would need to understand... And that is called ignorance… “Where have you heard about these so called losses?” If the grays have lost some essential emotions, they will of course not know about them! And if you are possessed by a gray, he will keep you ignorant of it. If you believe that what you have is all there is, how can you know about what you don’t have? Of course gray have all the chakras, by the way, but still one or two can be dormant!

“Mortals must kill to be alive. We kill to eat, and we kill to sense. Photons die to allow us to see.” For heaven’s sake. People are not photons! What a comparison! I suppose that you would be happy to be eaten… If you think that you can decide over life and death, you are trying to be like a god that you are not… But in any case undeveloped mortals take the life of mortals. And the grays are mortal. Yet undeveloped spirits can drive people into accidents, suicide, violent actions, etc. Mortals do NOT have to kill to die? There are fruits, for example! And if we care lovingly for our cows, they will be happy to share their milk with us, but slaughtering is not loving care!

Love shares the food with others. “Maybe...... those that live communally tend to share. Such as people within the same family.” True love is sharing with everyone, beyond any group and family border! True love doesn't know any borders. Maybe you have to ‘ascend' a bit more to understand that…

“Actually the hunting instinct is where the love of killing comes from. Since once the prey or competitor has been killed, there is more food for you and your family.” That is nothing but ultimate selfishness!

“I myself am aware of a wide range of emotions.” But you cannot really be aware of some you lost (and maybe know only from hearsay).

“Christ or Imanuel is just from the Mammalian Federation, which in our terminology is a socialist order.” Christ is not a guy from another planet! He is the highest immaterial spirit entity under the prime creator, and the love of the prime creator for his creations. But some from other planets (and from here) try to pose as false Christs…

“For instance reptiles abandon their children, complete freedom.” So if your parents abandon you, you are happy to be free? And the parents are happy to be free from their responsibility? If you loose your partner, you are happy to be free? Free for what? Finding another? The ultimate freedom will then be to have no one at all, i.e., total loneliness…

Why did the grays come here? “Well the usual explanation is nuclear testing.” So that is why they want us to fight nuclear wars? It appears that they want us to largely eradicate each other in a nuclear war, so that they can take over to possess the few survivors. Maybe grays are more immune to radiation than we are. Bio-robots may well be. So is that their plan?

And what do they want with us? “To live here, and sustain species.” Apparently mainly that the grays sustain their species at our expense.

Originally posted by amc621
reply to post by lowki2

 

Thank you for your neutral and clearly phrased questions.

What is your life like now?

Loving happy paradise,
it's wonderful,
singing songs,

bouncing with bunnies,
loving happy people,
going to parties,
la la, li li , lo la le yi woo :-D

growing mushrooms, for my forest-garden,
builidng a robot, for AGI development,
raising awareness about neo-tribalism.
abundance communities
in co-operation with nature.

A paradise for the We with You :-D *hugs*

What part of the country do you live in?

Toronto, Canada, a multicultural center.
but planning on getting a boat,
traveling around the world,
spreading replicating tribes.

I like temperate and polar latitudes,
helps keep my brain cool.
Though I enjoy the continental lake climate here in Toronto,
where it can get in the low 30's (celcius) during peak of the summer.
Usually it's a great time to wear long sleeves and a hat for water retention.

I suspect it gets warmer in our apartment,
it's a bit like a sauna, so that's pleasant,
reminds me of our winter pool sauna parties.

Do you have a job here?

I'm a full time magic spell caster.
have my agenda or magic-spell books,
stuff I write down appears or manifests.

What are your goals living with us humans?

neo-tribalism, definitely to sum it up in one word.
a paradise, with much diversity, and beauty of nature,
complex hybrids roaming about of all different configurations,
people living happily together in tribal atom families,
consciously aware of their holographic ecology.

Do you see a human doctor?

Well I have a doctor,
that is marijuana friendly.

Also have a professional spiritual healer friend,
who is in my Qi Gong group.
Which is honestly,
full of amazing people.

Though now I'm mainly partying with vegan activists,
Sea Shepherd bi mi kurent-laif pairits.
we're all quite healthy due to our diet,
are aware of nutrition requirements,
and we also love animals,
and respect nature.

Also Arcturians are good healers.
So I've called on them before.

and I can do some healing,
with various visualization techniques.
and I have many safety net spells.

zero-mother being the source of all safety.
a calm balance.

reply to post by lowki


I was wondering if you knew who used orbs? Last night I had contact, telepathic, kept seeing a woman in a blue uniform, long dark blond hair, a similar energy to me, almost as if we were connected. What was mentioned was for waking people up, to bring awareness. I was really impressed with the ATS street news, and thought of the idea of citizens with local websites, ( I made one but it needs work and its still not picked up by search engines), with a local street voice news, interviewing citizens on issues, and having the videos on the site, radio blogs, for each area.

It was after I started thinking about this again, this contact occurred, and it was a message of some event, where they would give a message to the world, that it was really needed for people to know what they're up against with the bloodline planning on depopulating and their Scalar Wave technologies. I said that if it occurs, of course I was in agreement, but only if it ever happens, and also that it cannot be about starting a new religion or in any way feed into the operations they do wtih starseed groups that feed into NWO.

I was trying to go to sleep, but had forgotten my antibiotic, I have a big swollem lymph gland, that was a hit on my family just over a week ago, by negatives, my youngest son had sleep paralysis and the hooded guys that are seen, prodding him with a wand like a punch in the stomach, every time he tried to move, and I got this painful lump.

While at the sink, my older son said, that he saw a large blue orb, over a meter across, right behind me, mid back level for a couple seconds.

What is the purpose of the orb?

edit to add: I didn't discuss any of it with my son before hand, but asked if he felt anything, was he aware of energy or sensed this orb in any way?

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by lowki

 

I was wondering if you knew who used orbs?

The Plaeidians use orbs or robotic-mini-saucers as flying scouts.
though potentially other species as well of course.

Last night I had contact, telepathic, kept seeing a woman in a blue uniform, long dark blond hair, a similar energy to me, almost as if we were connected. What was mentioned was for waking people up, to bring awareness.

:-)
appeared through resonance

I was really impressed with the ATS street news, and thought of the idea of citizens with local websites, ( I made one but it needs work and its still not picked up by search engines), with a local street voice news, interviewing citizens on issues, and having the videos on the site, radio blogs, for each area.

ya that's cool.
you can submit your website to google,
also can link to it from some other websites.

but you know me and tribes,
so ya,

They would give a message to the world, that it was really needed for people to know what they're up against

that is a threat.
it's contamination,
from against-minded people.
against is destructive.

so remember to tune into people that are constructive.
these tell you about beneficial future scenarios.

Any scenario that you repeat,
you volitionally magick spell cast,
by the law of attraction or karma.


to make sure it is of the constructive vibration.
think before you type, formulate the image, check vibration,
then if it is complaint with your beliefs and expectations,
you can cast it by speaking, typing, or writing.
and review what you have written,
you can edit it until you forget about it.
once you've forgotten then it processes.

one of the stages of forgetting,
is appreciating life in the present moment.

I was trying to go to sleep, but had forgotten my antibiotic, I have a big swollem lymph gland, that was a hit on my family just over a week ago, by negatives, my youngest son had sleep paralysis and the hooded guys that are seen, prodding him with a wand like a punch in the stomach, every time he tried to move, and I got this painful lump.

ya, they warned you they were malevolent,
when they sent you the doom predictions.
by acknowledging and repeating you accepted.
that increased quantum binding,
allowing them to come in.

While at the sink, my older son said, that he saw a large blue orb, over a meter across, right behind me, mid back level for a couple seconds.

What is the purpose of the orb?

purpose is typically for observation,
though clearly it wanted to be seen.

reply to post by lowki


Awareness is very important, because what we're up against is actions being performed by an elite co-op group from the bloodlines here, the ones who wanted the Nazis to win the war basically.

The positive imaging, and holding positive thought is one of our best ways to hold the frequency, light, awareness and draw in positive changes. But we do this from a position of being aware, not our heads in the clouds, unable to assist or do the actual assigment we all came to do.

These people did not give me a hit. I know how it happened. A lot of my friends, including my good offline friend and on ats here, got hit that night/weekend. From what I understand they normally do more protective modes in dream time. I don't, I never go to those channels, and hold peace over both sides, and was protected.

But, in talks with someone who thinks only his way is the right way, and because I couldn't speak up from my heart for it wasn't safe to speak, I was being kind and agreed to read a channeled work that he wanted everyone to, that I should have been honest and true to myself for I sensed the energy in there immediately.

I read 2 chapters and the next morning my son came down so frightened as the hooded black op guys had got to him, and I got this infection in my lymph gland, for no apparent reason.

If you read antar's recent thread you'll see she got hit too. Another on the thread, and my friend had some strong hits and was afraid to phone me all week.

I have closed those channels. This energy is not that energy.

An example for awareness is this: scalar technology according to Tesla himself, can make the planet tip over, crustal displacement. If they have something it will happen with or without our awareness.

Drawing eden in, and preventing worldwide murder and takeover by NWO fascists is only possible if people wake up to what is in control of this world.

No one can work for changes and a better world if their head is buried firmly in the sand!

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I'm going to ask this, and I've asked it before but if there are two methods, depending on the belief of the person, to assist, and the goal for both is: saving human life, freeing people from the controllers, continuing advancement with cleaner technology, and our social programs and civilization, which all people have a right to, its based on their collectivity and actions, and they're the ones who's hard work is powering everything, so their cooperation and advancement, because we don't to be forced back to primitive conditions by these elites who have kept all the advanced technology for themselves. Bringing in clean energy and equal systems should not involve harming a single person or any of their good equalizing programs or health care.

I know why they want to do this, they want serfs! Easily controlled serfs, a blast from the past.

So if various people all have the same goal to prevent this from occurring, which method do you think works the best:

1) to ignore everything negative and only hold positive light over the world, imaging with emotion and high frequency what you wish to see? (the draw back to this, is if something is being planned, this very lack of action could be exactly what the elite want us to do.)

2) work for awareness to wake people up so they can do a variety of things, such as protest, form citizen councils and deal hard ball with the elites until all is dislcosed and they step down, along with meditation, and holding high frequency visionary positive energy work? (this is the only one that makes any sense)

With these questions in mind, David Icke comes to mind. David Icke said he has been criticized by a certain group thinking that even talking about the negative agendas is bringing them in. Whereas he said, that if the tornados are coming, and your head is buried deeply in the ground, you're going to get spanked really hard. You need to take out of the sand, and look at the danger, and come up with a plan of action. His work is for awareness.

Do you feel he is doing the work of a negative faction of ETS to bring in disasters then? That he's really an agent of NWO to even show us the way the world is?

Any scenario that you repeat,
you volitionally magick spell cast,
by the law of attraction or karma.

I see this as a potential disastrous situation where one would be totally ineffective at preventing a planned catastrophe, from occurring. That means people should just remain lost in their paradigms until its way too late? I mean they already don't see the elite doing everything and many have a positive view on a world believing they can make a difference in various roles, teachers, nurses, professionals, day care workers, moms, parents, many have a much more positive view of their leaders than is responsible, yet the disasters happen right on the bloodlines astrological/numerological schedule with or witout our awareness?

reply to post by Unity_99


I agree! There are mainly two reasons to put the head in the sand:
1. YOU don't want to know uncomfortable facts and remain in the illusion that everything is OK and nothing bad is going on in the background.
2. THEY don't want you to know and you follow their persuasion without thinking enough on your own.

It is important to stay aware and not swallow everything you are fed, with manure and all. Manipulation and disinformation are everywhere and everyday in our NWO world where those in power are influenced from outside.

Therefore people need to be alerted and motivated to think by themselves and really question all the stuff one wants to make them believe.

Lowki: "Well I have a doctor, that is marijuana friendly." That seems to indicate one possible source of illusive 'information'. "I'm a full time magic spell caster. Have my agenda or magic-spell books, stuff I write down appears or manifests." I wonder how 'white' that 'magic' is? Or is it 'grey' of the grays, or maybe even a bit black? Doesn't sound very good to me!

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by lowki

 

1) to ignore everything negative and

ignore anything you dislike.
it'll go away.

believe me,
it works.

cause it works the other way around to,
if you ignore something you like,
then that goes away to.

since attention is what gives it energy.
energy in the universe (intersection) co-created by your consciousness.

only hold positive light over the world, imaging with emotion and high frequency what you wish to see?

yes, that's heart-chakra meditation.
also known as compassion meditation.
of course you can imagine we with your paradise.
giving that attention gives it opportunity to appear.

(the draw back to this, is if something is being planned, this very lack of action could be exactly what the elite want us to do.)

ya, whatever they think, is irrelevant.
they are digging their own grave.
with high inflationary currency.

2) work for awareness to wake people up so they can do a variety of things, such as protest, form citizen councils and deal hard ball with the elites until all is dislcosed and they step down,

they would sure love that.
that's like "play time",
they get to send in their massive technologies.
if you do something to them, that's karmic bait,
since they can then put you into a karmic relationship.

along with meditation, and holding high frequency visionary positive energy work? (this is the only one that makes any sense)

sure well that's okay,
but I'd suggest building abundance community,
a paradise that you wish to live in.

With these questions in mind, David Icke comes to mind. David Icke said he has been criticized by a certain group thinking that even talking about the negative agendas is bringing them in. Whereas he said, that if the tornados are coming, and your head is buried deeply in the ground, you're going to get spanked really hard. You need to take out of the sand, and look at the danger, and come up with a plan of action. His work is for awareness.

Ya, I've spoken many times about the plan for action, that is neo-tribalism.

Do you feel he is doing the work of a negative faction of ETS to bring in disasters then? That he's really an agent of NWO to even show us the way the world is?

ummm well we each have our own universe of experience.
sure his world view may be eyeopening to a certain extent.
Certainly I believe it's beneficial to know the history of a place.

Any scenario that you repeat,
you volitionally magick spell cast,
by the law of attraction or karma.

I see this as a potential disastrous situation where one would be totally ineffective at preventing a planned catastrophe, from occurring. That means people should just remain lost in their paradigms until its way too late?

Actually it means do and repeat what you wish to experience.
Sure you can plan with the bloodline plans in mind,
neo-tribes are beneficial in either case.

distributed holographic tribes gives us freedom,
as well as the order in which to interact in a natural fashion.

I mean they already don't see the elite doing everything and many have a positive view on a world believing they can make a difference in various roles, teachers, nurses, professionals, day care workers, moms, parents, many have a much more positive view of their leaders than is responsible, yet the disasters happen right on the bloodlines astrological/numerological schedule with or witout our awareness?

edit on 21-10-2010 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)

do you have proof of that?
I'd like to see some links.

Illuminati arose,
due to Christian oppression,
and Christians fearing devil worshipers,
so some decided to be what others feared.

I have a question, do psychoactive drugs ('___' specifically) have anything to do with perceiving additional dimensions to the one we currently believe we are experiencing, or is the experience merely another distortion and lie to the mind?

reply to post by transcendence17


Both can happen. If your mind isn't 'clean' enough, there can be lies and false information, or you interpret it wrongly. You may get into false realms.

But if your mind is absolutely 'clean', other things can happen. But what is 'clean'? Meditate on that ...

In any case: no selfishness, no negative thoughts or feelings, but love for all and everyone. But that might not be all ...

What can you elaborate about the places that humans go to when they take '___'?

You Stated

When doing any hallucinogen, in dream or waking or meditation, the vibration of our mind bends and warps allowing us to access different parts of the infinite creator of possibilities. Where your mind will go, depends on the starting mind set, and your abilities of navigating your mind ship through the multiverse of possibility.

So to your knowledge does everything that contains matter have a wave structure? What about the lesser evolved creatures that have no ability to control their brains wave structure why do they exist?

Originally posted by memyself
reply to post by Unity_99

 

. "I'm a full time magic spell caster. Have my agenda or magic-spell books, stuff I write down appears or manifests." I wonder how 'white' that 'magic' is? Or is it 'grey' of the grays, or maybe even a bit black? Doesn't sound very good to me!

black be of zero-mother for safety,
white be of ever-father for infinity,
grey be of children for now.

Originally posted by DieSektor

What can you elaborate about the places that humans go to when they take '___'?

You Stated

When doing any hallucinogen, in dream or waking or meditation, the vibration of our mind bends and warps allowing us to access different parts of the infinite creator of possibilities. Where your mind will go, depends on the starting mind set, and your abilities of navigating your mind ship through the multiverse of possibility.

thanks for finding and quoting relevant text,
resolving previous posters queries.

So to your knowledge does everything that contains matter have a wave structure?

quantum-physics notes matter is made of wavicles,
moving like waves, until they are observed, when they be particles

What about the lesser evolved creatures that have no ability to control their brains wave structure why do they exist?

there are no such creatures,
having a desire changes brain-state,
animals have desires, so thereby manipulate brain-state.

Though it's true that psychedelic-drugs,
may be superfluous to them cognitively,
so they would typically avoid them,
just as any other poison.

Though higher-mammals like big-cats,
have been known to do psychedelics,
to increase brain performance.
they are considered third-density,
able to make choices about their being.

Originally posted by transcendence17
I have a question, do psychoactive drugs ('___' specifically) have anything to do with perceiving additional dimensions to the one we currently believe we are experiencing?

Yes, psychoactive chemicals can change brain-states, so we are in-tune with different vibrations. thereby able to access information not normally available to us.
These experiences can be classified as coming from various chakra's.
The whirling fractal colors are the top of the chakra-vine.
Various infinities coalesced into tangible sensations.

Of course can view alternate time-lines through multiverse,
or merely do some psychic-intuition,
perhaps some planetary telepathy.


'___' or Psilocybes are mainly serotonin analogs,
serotonin helps with brain cell interconnectivity,
so may be used to reconnect fragmented brain regions.

Such as awakening brain-regions or alters that were isolated through trauma,
the kind of trauma some may experience from institutionalized abuse (school),
for having "imaginary experiences" or accessing higher chakra's.
illuminati or military sometimes create alters for certain missions.
This alter reintegration process may be full of events.
so it's best to be well prepared cognitively,
with friends that can keep you safe,
and remind you who you are now.



I know that for me,
when I was reintegrating various past-life alters,
some of the first questions that would crop-up.
Where am I?
Who am I?
What am I doing?
What do I eat?

So it's good to have answers for all of those.

I sort of think that these aliens are manifestations of our own psyches and they actually live as entities within our own unconscious mind. And this 4th density is that place inwhich they live and which we already subconsciously are, but arent fully aware of yet.

lowki2 said: "looks like you might be well on your way to 4th density."

lowki2, can you explain further? You talk often about then having physical bodies, and an agenda. How can they be "real" and "of our own psyches" at the same time?

reply to post by lowki2


I find threads like these , very disturbing . I suggest you may need to seek professional help to help you overcome your delusions .

Peace

OK, I have one quick question.

Is there a such thing as "surplus karma". like some kind excess karma that you can spend when in need?

Because i was doing a project, and got hit in the eye with a paper plane. It should have taken out my eye. long story short; my eye is still intact.

I feel that my actions over the past few days are full of good karma, so did I spend some of my karma in order to keep my eye?

And, how did i know that i was going to get hit in the eye? It was just calling out to me that it was going to happen. ive predicted many things before. what does this mean?