Hitler Says: Tobacco a 'Red Man' Tactic Against Whites

I had not heard this until doing some recent research as to who hates tobacco so much that they'd jack the tax rates so high. I thought this was interesting:

Hitler's Anti-Tobacco Campaign

Hitler was a smoker in his youth but at some stage he became aware of its health hazards and, when in power (perhaps with the zeal of a convert), appeared to detest tobacco, which he called "the wrath of the Red Man against the White Man, vengeance for having been given hard liquor." But the antismoking campaign reflected "a national political climate stressing the virtues of racial hygiene and bodily purity" as well as the Fuhrer's personal prejudices. The same could be said of Nazi efforts to discourage drinking and encourage a better diet.

The state performer in antismoking propaganda was Adolf Hitler. As one magazine put it: "brother national socialist, do you know that our Führer is against smoking and think that every German is responsible to the whole people for all his deeds and emissions, and does not have the right to damage his body with drugs?"

A lot of what Hitler says, seems to be actually effected by his stooges today, I needn't really explain more, as it explains itself: You do not have the right to smoke, and anyway, Indians are destroying your lungs.

Anyway, he is completely wrong as the 'red man' has always seen tobacco as a sacred leaf. Smoking is a personal matter and Indians understand such things. Hitler and his ersatz out-dated agents of 2009 are so back-asswards that they may even believe the hype.

Fact is, tobacco allowed America to come to being (thanks Indians!) as it was one of the few crops which could withstand the difficult soil. Also, tobacco power transferred much power to the US. It becomes a bit easier to see when you grasp that a pack of cigs is actually one of the hardest currencies you can have these days. Tobacco as currency was understood by Indians, Sir Walter Raleigh, and also Hitler.

I am not a smoker and do not see myself ever smoking, but I am never threatened by second hand smoke and I don't panic if a kid is near cig smoke. I know the child is safer is a world of smokers, simply because of the information I have posted here.

I am glad the term Nazi now applies to anyone who wants to disallow someone the use of what nature has given. That is Hitler's true legacy: His word "Nazi" means 'dickweed' in every language. The red man, however, puts tobacco in his peace pipe, and changes nothing about nature. It is good. And yes, I have used tobacco through a peace pipe. I did not die, and actually, it was one of the more connected and human moments I have felt, being surrounded by other people in this ritual. Hitler would have no clue as to what I am saying, and equally, his agents will never have this country. He did not understand Americans.


[edit on 21-4-2009 by smallpeeps]

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Now first of all the word "NAZI" does not come from every language or so on, it is german, and simply abreviates National Socialist.
In the Second place....what exactly are you trying to say with this? No matter what Hitler may have said, we do not live in the 30's or 40's, and what Ronald Mcdonald says counts more than what Hitler may have said....and noone ants to understand him anyways due to the fact that he was an extremist-Nimrod, who's only Talent was being able to hold speeches in front of people.

[edit on 21/4/2009 by Pakd-on-mystery]

reply to post by Pakd-on-mystery
i think the point being put across is the dictatorship angle.
We are in a similar situation today with having our liberties stripped away by a dictatorship and the threat of this is far, far greater than the possible dangers of smoking.
"you will not smoke" is your order and the masses are being brainwashed into a witch hunt against the smokers.The fact that you are being dictated to is overlooked.
It is the smokers that are evil and we are removing their liberties under the guise of playing the health card---we the government care.Yeah right!
I may be wrong but this is my interpretation.

Originally posted by Pakd-on-mystery
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Now first of all the word "NAZI" does not come from every language or so on, it is german, and simply abreviates National Socialist.

Thanks for educating me. As far as I can tell, when someone is called "A Nazi", they are being called, "A Dickweed". Can you clarify for me if I am wrong? The word Nazi now means, "Ass____." is my point. Is that the legacy he wanted to leave, linguistically?

In the Second place....what exactly are you trying to say with this?

What are YOU trying to say with your saying what am I saying? Really now, what are you saying by asking what I am saying? I hope you are not saying what I am not saying because I'm not sayin that.

No matter what Hitler may have said, we do not live in the 30's or 40's, and what Ronald Mcdonald says counts more than what Hitler may have said....and noone ants to understand him anyways due to the fact that he was an extremist-Nimrod, who's only Talent was being able to hold speeches in front of people.

Oh, that's what you are saying. Okay, yeah I agree.

Hitler was a loser. I'm with ya. But he did take over his nation and receive their National soul and he clearly is wrong in his understandings of America and also the last part where he claims party-ownership of every Nazi's body, is quite good.

Come on now, read it again and I think you'll see what I'm gettin at.


[edit on 21-4-2009 by smallpeeps]

Originally posted by smallpeeps

Originally posted by Pakd-on-mystery
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Now first of all the word "NAZI" does not come from every language or so on, it is german, and simply abreviates National Socialist.

Thanks for educating me. As far as I can tell, when someone is called "A Nazi", they are being called, "A Dickweed". Can you clarify for me if I am wrong? The word Nazi now means, "Ass____." is my point. Is that the legacy he wanted to leave, linguistically?

In the Second place....what exactly are you trying to say with this?

What are YOU trying to say with your saying what am I saying? Really now, what are you saying by asking what I am saying? I hope you are not saying what I am not saying because I'm not sayin that.

No matter what Hitler may have said, we do not live in the 30's or 40's, and what Ronald Mcdonald says counts more than what Hitler may have said....and noone ants to understand him anyways due to the fact that he was an extremist-Nimrod, who's only Talent was being able to hold speeches in front of people.

Oh, that's what you are saying. Okay, yeah I agree.

Hitler was a loser. I'm with ya. But he did take over his nation and receive their National soul and he clearly is wrong in his understandings of America and also the last part where he claims party-ownership of every Nazi's body, is quite good.

Come on now, read it again and I think you'll see what I'm gettin at.


[edit on 21-4-2009 by smallpeeps]

Ja sorry dude, the second time i read your post, i was shaking my head about myself.
but i mean, I didn't know that nazi is used for that, here in germany those Fa**ots are still somewhat of a threat, and there are too many of them which unfortunately have to be taken serious as that the word could be joked around with here but I do get what you're saying

However, when it came to the profits that could be realised from tobacco sales, the NSDAP took a different line:

otto wagener

Wagener had used his business contacts to persuade a cigarette firm to produce "Sturm" cigarettes for SA men -- a "sponsorship" deal benefiting both the firm and SA coffers. Stormtroopers were strongly encouraged to smoke only these cigarettes. A cut from the profit went to the SA -though after Pfeffer's resignation, the Reich Party Treasurer made sure that control over the funds was exercised by the party itself, not by the SA

-Kershaw, Ian (1999). Hitler 1889–1936: Hubris

reply to post by Osmoses


Brilliant observation. When you realize how easy it is to miss the obvious there is always someone clever enough to shine a light in the right place.

Hitler may well have been a stereo-typical 'ex-smoker'; that, quite ironically, around here we refer to as 'anti-smoking Nazis' because of their obtuse and overly zealous preoccupation with (and usually wildly exaggerated sensitivity to) cigarette smoke in general.

I think the OP meant to imply that the anti-smoking, or personal behavior control focus of the government reflects poorly on a society which wants to embrace personal freedom.... if that's the case! I agree

Sounds like some bull# to me.

Addictive as hell, nicotine is, but I have a tendency to believe that is because there is something inside that plant that the human brain finds incredibly useful. It is not the red man who is responsible for contaminating this sacred lead with an untold number of poisons - from arsenic to dioxins to godamned PLUTONIUM - but the white man. Only he had the gall to take natures purity and add to it the # of several industries to make the worlds most addictive poison.

Phooey.

Originally posted by uk today
reply to post by Pakd-on-mystery

 

i think the point being put across is the dictatorship angle.
We are in a similar situation today with having our liberties stripped away by a dictatorship and the threat of this is far, far greater than the possible dangers of smoking.

I may be wrong but this is my interpretation.

Thanks uk today, you are not wrong. You understood and actually summed the idea up very nicely.

Hopefully others might have something to say, as they contemplate their addiction to tobacco.

I do also have an addiction to tobacco and it is spiritual. I will use it a few times a year, in a peace pipe. Used without additives, it is pure and sacred. Used in a ceremonial fashion, it is appreciated. Cast toward the fire and combined with a prayer, it is nectar to the creative force which made both plants and humans.

As I watch people smoke, I do see the ritual, for people do enjoy the little bit of light which exists at their fingertips. They enjoy that their lungs can cause the glow at the tip to get brighter as they inhale. Smoking is fairly erotic even for men, it allows them to hang around and check out females, which makes sense to all colors of men. The prepackaged nature of it also allows one the satisfaction of a real product, that is to say, the opening of a carton, the unraveling of the package (quite professionally and even hygienically sealed by machine hands) and the knowledge that their are several little moments of whatever, there in a filtered delivery vehicle. ...Or it is the nicotine?

The point is, it is the body which is under assault by Nazi powers. National Socialism can exist in any country. There can be any Fuhrer in any country and if empowered by church, they'll wreck the world.

But the main point I'd like to make, is the ritual use of tobacco through the Chununpa or the peace pipe.

It is interesting to now consider the movie which Kevin Costner made and which is relevant to this subject of tobacco. I am speaking of course of the global Hollywood phenomenon...





--oh wait! Wrong movie!

I meant that other movie he made...






[edit on 21-4-2009 by smallpeeps]

I wasn't aware that Sir Walter Raleigh was a "red man".

Thanks Hitler, another brilliant an accurate insight...

And talking of Raleigh, may as well clarify his historical contribution to tobacco. Someone told me the other day that the myth of Raleigh introducing tobacco to the UK was on the National Curriculum. . . .

Raleigh was born around 1552. In 1498, one of Columbus's sailors was arrested in Barcelona for smoking in the street, and sentenced to ten years in prison for "consorting with the devil". The first report of a smoking Englishman is of a sailor in Bristol in 1556, seen "emitting smoke from his nostrils". Raleigh never personally visited Virginia or any other part of North America; it was a Frenchman named Jean Nicot, from whose name the word nicotine is derived, who introduced tobacco to France in 1560, and it was from France, not the New World, that tobacco reached England. However, it is true to say that Raleigh, a leader of fashion, was influential in popularising the tobacco habit after he was introduced to it by Francis Drake, and also that he had a pipe shortly before being executed - the prototype of the condemned man and his last smoke.

From the notes to the BBC TV programme QI.

For those of you following along, you will have read the "Red House Report" only recently declassified which explains clearly that in 1944 the Naxis knew that phase one of WW2 was over, they had lost the land war as their armies had been fed into the meatgrinder of Stalin's waiting arms.

Note the pathetically-small, almost-gone Wiki page here:

en.wikipedia.org...

Here's the actual report:

www.archive.org...

The paper is aged and fragile, the typewritten letters slowly fading. But US Military
Intelligence report EW-Pa 128 is as chilling now as the day it was written in November
1944.

The document, also known as the Red House Report, is a detailed account of a secret meeting at the Maison Rouge Hotel in Strasbourg on August 10, 1944. There, Nazi officials ordered an elite group of German industrialists to plan for Germany 's post-war recovery, prepare for the Nazis' return to power and work for a 'strong German empire'.

In other words: the Fourth Reich.

All via Himmler and Stalin and their chain of command, as Jesuits.

This means that in 1943, the second phase of the Nazis began, as they paperclipped themselves and their Jesuit cadre from Himmler's flocks, to the US.

Of course the Romish stratagem only saw Germania as a tool to be punished and dialectic for their insolence and invasions of previous centuries. Thus was their nation sawn in half and their brightest young utterly wrecked.

The strategem from Rome upon the US is very old, but it's hilarious how they try to associate the Native Americans with any of that Rome/colonization crap. The indians didn't need missions, they didn't need Thomas Jefferson, they didn't need any help from Europe.

Anyway, just bumping my tobacco thread to keep your eyes on the ball. If you have eyes to see, that is.

indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com...

The Vatican today announced that the Mohawk-Algonquin woman born in 1656 and known as Kateri Tekakwitha has been deemed worthy of sainthood by the Pope.

[...]

Also according to Wikipedia, the process of Kateri’s canonization began in 1884; Pope Pius XII declared her venerable in 1943, and Pope John Paul II beatified her in 1980. She was at that time the first American Indian to be beatified.