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'America lives in a fascist state' – trend forecaster

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posted on Apr, 21 2009 @ 12:56 PM
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Yes we are headed to a fascist state.

The sad thing is, many Americans will not see it. They will deny it until it's to late to do anything about it. I'm sure when Germans were told about the Nazi's they at first thought , no way. It always starts slow and builds up.

This is a problem that started with the Bush administration and these bailouts.

This is an obvious power grab by Obama.

He wants to control executive pay, he wants to control banks and car companies. He's meeting with credit card companies and telling them what he doesn't like or what he wants to be changed.

This is very troubling. Obama may not abuse control of these things but he's setting up a system that a mad man/woman can take control of after his time in office and have total control of the economy.

We elect Presidents to protect our God Given rights, not to fire C.E.O.'s and run private business.

Listen to this:

President Obama on Thursday will attend a meeting of administration officials and card company executives. He is expected to press CEOs to adopt practices designed to protect consumers.

It also said:

The Senate bill also prevents those under 21 from getting credit cards unless a parent or guardian backs them up or if they take a government-approved financial literacy test. The Senate bill also prevents retailers from charging "dormancy" fees on gift cards that aren't redeemed within a certain period of time.

money.cnn.com...

This is a disaster in the making. The government and the President are taking control of private industry and Americans can't see the change that's occuring in front of their eyes.



posted on Apr, 21 2009 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
We don't live in a facist nation, but we don't live in a democracy.

We live in a REPUBLIC. A Republic with the democratic institution of elections within that republic. At least .. that's what we are SUPPOSED to be living in. Doesn't seem like it though.



posted on Apr, 21 2009 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
We don't live in a facist nation, but we don't live in a democracy.

We live in a REPUBLIC. A Republic with the democratic institution of elections within that republic. At least .. that's what we are SUPPOSED to be living in. Doesn't seem like it though.



Yeah me and another poster already had that discussion, right below my post.



posted on Apr, 21 2009 @ 02:49 PM
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Rockefeller, Harriman, Bush, DuPont, Carnegie and Mellon all were vocal and financial backers of Benito Mussolini and Adolph Hitler.

While the United States languished under a growing depression eerily similar to the one deepening today, these noted and distinguished Americans lauded the efficiencies and sensibilities of fascist run states and invested heavily in their growing economies.

It took hauling these distinguished gentlemen or their corporate proxies in front of Congress in 1942 and charging them with Trading with the Enemies Act to get them to abandon their businesses and investments in Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy.

Thank goodness they learned the error of their ways and such names are no longer amongst us today…

Oh yeah, wait…WAKE UP PEOPLE.

We have been being manipulated towards fascism since the early 1930’s in a concerted effort that has never stopped.

The four cornerstones of a fascist state are:

A strong military industrial complex

A strong security industrial complex

A strong prison industrial complex

A great decider

What will it take to convince some of you silly people an RDF Chip? A Swastika? A numbered Tattoo?



posted on Apr, 22 2009 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by Adrifter
reply to post by MikeboydUS
 


I am trying to learn..


Wouldn't a democracy represent a house and congress full of non partied participants? No party? no party lines just individuals listening to debates coming to their own conclusion and voting from their heart not their party lines? isn't that democracy? If that is not a democracy what is that? thats how we started. At least that how i thought we did, it was Washington, who warned us about the partied system.. Didn't he?


We actually started out with representatives of the people in the House of Representatives and representatives of the States in the Senate. Senators were originally elected by State legislatures, the 17th amendment signed in 1912 changed all of that.

In our Legislative branch there was originally a balance between the People and the States. In 1912 our Legislature became fully democratic.

Washington did warn us about the party system and tried to stop it but failed. The set up of political parties was one of the direct factors in the US Civil War. It was as much of a war between the Democrats of the South and the Republicans of the North as it was a war of state's rights. Politically everything has went down hill since then.



posted on Apr, 22 2009 @ 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by tOrnaDo_pHett
i know that it is a "buzz" word, often used by fear-mongerers.
But to be fair, although much of it is not actively in practice at the time being, many of the freedoms that made America great went away when the Patriot Act came to town.
If you break it down strictly to what the government can and can't legally do by the laws of this country, we pretty much DO live in a fascist state, by definition.



The same can be said of former National Socialist states, such as Germany back in the 1930s, and Communist dictatorships. I am talking about that list on "Fascism".

The only real difference between Communism and Fascism, is that in Fascism the Corporation/s are in control, and are part of the State, and in Communism the STATE is in control. In both forms of dictatorship those in power claim they are doing what is best for the people.



[edit on 22-4-2009 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Jun, 24 2009 @ 01:50 AM
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guys, i know everything you're talking about.
we are pieces on a giant chess board. if you're on this site posting, that should be common knowledge by now.
this is merely credible information for noobs.
im glad i caught some of your attentions though.



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