2012 & The Gender of our Creator

Someone besides me finally came to a good conclusion on the point regarding the fact;

The Mayans basically got tired of making calenders since they were already well ahead of themselves in the production of the calender and it would be more logical for any of us today to just let that generation pickup where you just left off considering hey it's still 148 bc (or whenever they made the calender) and I just made this thing go all the way to 2012 A.D., I still got my life to live why the hell should I stay here and keep making dates when that date (2012) can finish this damn calender?!?

I mean wouldn't you think the same way? Besides they had sacrifice parties to attend!


Yes in fact the very most LOGICAL answer to that question is how we date calenders today, we don't print/distribute calenders until it's actually that year now LOL...


Because I'm fairly sure they felt accomplished then they reached 2000 years also because after designing one so accurate,one everyone could understand and conform to why keep on going when the people of that last year carved could finish what you started? Let alone continue what you began!

That year of changing might possibly just mean a new date timetable just like how we have went from B.C. to A.C. 2012 marks the time for a new timetable most likely something called "P.C." since everything is suppose to go digital lol hello 4g network!!!


and there's already a thread on here that the world might even be older than 6000 years and I don't care if all this universe has been around for 200, Trillion Earth Years and 'One Million Lightyears, just 2000 years is enough to convince me this actual "universe" ain't going nowhere, look at the other planets and don't even mention Pluto being dis-counted that was to make you believe in a new planet coming into the atmosphere (Planet X) lol omg A Generation X B-Movie Rip off this time we've named the follow up Planet X. heh.

And then you all must ask yourselves this, why would the Creator get rid of something he began himself? That would be like him committing suicide, whether you want to look at it as that or not.

And as far as the "Holy War" that goes hand in hand with the New Time-Table Change the Mayans were referring to, just like the flood civilization will be wiped out the same way the Cavemen and Dinosaurs were, and all the life that was previously here whether be positive souls or negative souls they all return to the life stream which nothing more than the very essence of where we came, it's same resting place of where the thought of Adam and Eve's creation came into existence, that same very place we all consider Heaven.

We will be returned to our Creator in the end, the source, the life stream.


And some wonder what this life stream is or what it's essence may be composed of...well Read on:


There was a time when we ALL use to refer to this place as "Mother Earth", What is the earth mainly filled with more continents or water?

Most will agree water, the very same will also recognize our bodies are made up of 78% water when born and the same very place we exit from the "Womb" is form those we call our MOTHERS which also has water within, Jordan Maxwell has explained the importance of water,the womb, and the purpose of birth certificates in detail plenty of times.


When you are baptized, you are baptized in water, only it's labeled "Holy" and its the most famous Biblical place for this is Jordan River, but never the less you are being re-entered into the same substance you wash your body with daily and the same substance you came out of, the main component of your body, and not only its that which is the source of life in itself.


Women's role and essential essence in life has been censored for centuries ever

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ever since Mary Madgalane (real name Mirium) was chosen to continue the message of the Divine son in the flesh which is that of the sole Creator of all himself.

Many wont tell you that the actual creator given when decides to take a human form is just like actual Angels, they are Androgynous

I mean surely you've thought such things? Especially given the VERY VERY old B.C. pictures depicted of Angels were naked but had no genitals not that they didn't want to show if they had them or not for pervasive artwork given that there were of course artists who have always made rather "explicit artwork" before the thought of the Porn Industry came into existence and Playboy was put on newstands..

But NO they painted them Androgynous because these creations of that of the VERY sole creator had no genitals.

The rebellion of Lucifer gives you detail that Angels were made from things such as water,air,and famously Lucifer was made from fire. Not only that even Churches preach he was the most "Beautiful" of all the Angels and he was also Chief before he rebelled.

And I'm sure you can accept the fact that they were Androgynous beings once you remember Adam and Eve were both created in that of the deity's very own image.

So either we have a very beautiful possibly with feminine features MALE God and league of Angels or we have both a God and the Creations co-existing as both counter-parts (male/female) just without the actual "features" of what both separates and makes the opposite genders.

That explains the reason why there was a 2nd rebellion in Heaven with the Fallen Angels from the Book of Enoch lusting after the daughters of men and creating the offspring known as the Nephilim basically giants (David vs Goliath)

It's also noted in the Book of Enoch when the descended from the Heavens (which we call space) they took form of humans, same way demons can appear as apparitions of whoever you wish them to be.

And there's the cold hard thought through truth that some never want to admit but is really the only most logical answer.

But some would rather believe in evolution, they really need to watch
"A Trip Into The Supernatual: With Roger Morneau" and take some demonology lessons.

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Speculation does not debunk anything. Lets not forget this calender made thousands of years ago, regardless if they did human sacrifice or not, is more accurate than our calender we use today.

The above poster is correct my friend. Don't discredit something that was more advance than our most advanced time keeping mechanism simply as a tool for the time.

What if the LHC comes online and we obliterate ourselves. In 10 thousand years when another culture finds it, you think they would discredit it, simply because it had been there for that long? No.

Biblically, you can't speak about 2012 because you can't prove that anything in that book is fact or truth. We can't prove it's a fabrication either, so using it as any sort of reference to anything is counter productive.

What we look at are the scientific explanations for why our planet is warming, why our sun is getting hotter and why orbits are being perturbed by something large that is not our sun. Now there could be various reasons behind such things.

Now, I don't believe in the end of the world, I think if there was a God that would be a little counter productive on his part, unless he treats us like an
Etch-A-Sketch and simply likes to wash it all away sometimes.

That being said, I do believe that there are a number of events that will happen in the following 10 years that will really rock our humanity to the core. We need to evolve in the next 100 years in order to survive the climate and eachother.

~Keeper

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"Now, I don't believe in the end of the world, I think if there was a God that would be a little counter productive on his part, unless he treats us like an
Etch-A-Sketch and simply likes to wash it all away sometimes."

That's the very essence of why I called it debunking maybe I should change the actual title because really I'm not DISCREDITING the calender surely you saw I wasn't by the simple reference to if you intelligently read the post I said they stopped at 2012 because they'd figure people like me and you would continue the calender in 2013 what was the point of him going on when they had a lives,rituals,and festivals to also focus on outside of making this calender?

Your missing the basis of the fact they may not have taken the calender literal and neither should we, the big "change" that they are speaking of is a switching of time tables like how we went from B.C. to A.D., my reference to what we will call times after 2012 is P.C. because everything will be electronic more advanced since the ones who always like to associate this "cosmic change" to higher spiritual enlightenment which is already happening so surely the next step is advancing how we live, ever see those cities on the Final Fantasy Games? FF 10 in particular, looks like how people like to depict Atlantis of looking.

Other than that the events you speak of are nothing more than what will bring about this switch over of time tables and what will be looked at as a new age is the same case of the dinosaurs extinction, regardless of the fact something always survives and with it begins a new era, if you wake up tomorrow and you and just one other person are alive to rebuild this entire world surely you aren't going to still be living in the one that just got destroyed right? By still calling that age B.C. or A.D. or whatever tickles your fancy.

It's not speculation it's a thing called common sense gathering information from basically all the different thread topics and subjects which if you can see past the "fog" if you may can connect the dots and see how they all point to the same direction.


But basically 2012 is when the calender will either continue or start over, regardless of the fact God isn't going to destroy what he created, especially if the earth has been here over 6,000 years and there's no telling really of the exact date of when the universe came to existence so NO, there's no chance of any of this going anywhere anytime soon.

Just the inhabitants.

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I believe whatever happens on that fateful day in December 2012 is NOT of the God of Christianity. Because God doesn't set exact dates, not even a month or a year.

good theory, but i think i heard the Mayans calender is counting down to 2012 and not simply counting up and just ending like you would think. The long count calender starts at a certian number and has been counting down to 2012, and the number it starts on well predates the Mayans. if i remember corectly, dont have time to reserch sorry, im late for work lol.

I don't think the people of the past were as lazy as we are. Why do tomorrow what you can do today?