There is a secret war waged in space!

Can someone explain this video pls : www.youtube.com...

reply to post by songokudbz


Hi,

It would be useful if you didn't post an attention grabbing headline then pose a question. If you are sure of what you are saying then state and back it up rather than ask others to answer.

Peace!

This video has been argued over a lot of times.

Best thing to do is use search. Lots of people claim that it is a missile being fired. Other say that it's ice particles being moved by stablising jets on the nose of the shuttle.

Personally I believe the latter.

Search is up on the top right of your screen

Originally posted by The Wave
reply to post by songokudbz

 

Hi,

It would be useful if you didn't post an attention grabbing headline then pose a question. If you are sure of what you are saying then state and back it up rather than ask others to answer.

Peace!

You sure are quick to the draw when it comes to critisizing people... Two threads in a row with rude comments that offer no usefull information to the OP question.



[edit on 17-4-2009 by ls1cameric]

reply to post by ls1cameric


Ty for backing me up, i really didn't manage to find this video on abs in the search tab. Ty peace, personally i don't think it's a missle.

reply to post by ls1cameric


If you would be kind enough to point out how my post was rude, I will consider revising it. As it is, I responded with clear instructions on how to use search and where to find it, what both sides of the argument are, and my personal feelings on the film.

Until today I gave paid little heed to ufo threads, but this has made me quite curious. who got this footage anyway? was NASA kind enough to release it?

The video is English, with espaniol subtitles. It shows what appears to be a distant grey dot moving towards, then away from earth, shortly followed by a streak of (light?) passing through where the object *may* have been. I say *may* because it could be many kilometers behind or in front of where the object was, but considering the timing I am doubful.

I don't read ufo threads, but now maybe I'll pay a little more attention. Im flagstaring this post

Originally posted by songokudbz
Can someone explain this video pls : www.youtube.com...

if you're thinking that's a missile being fired at a ufo,then they have some crappy targetting.it would have missed by further than it did if there was no "manouvre" by the object

Originally posted by Daisy-Lola
reply to post by ls1cameric

 

If you would be kind enough to point out how my post was rude, I will consider revising it. As it is, I responded with clear instructions on how to use search and where to find it, what both sides of the argument are, and my personal feelings on the film.

I didnt quote yout post. It was the poster before you.

reply to post by ls1cameric


Sorry for flying off the handle, but your comment of 'two threads' was read as 'two posts' with my post being post No.2

Again sorry about that.
I'll post this as a forum retraction but PM as well in case the Mods start handing out their little yellow 'off topic' diamonds

Daisy

reply to post by ls1cameric


Hi,

Guess it was me you were aiming at? Sorry but so many people post without bothering to look at what's already there. Everyone seems reactive rather than objective.

But attention grabbing headlines do tend to get to me - there's enough disinformation already.

Peace!

reply to post by ls1cameric


Hi,

I've also being watching your contributions - grateful for your positive input regarding most posts? Sometimes it's useful to save time and effort to point others to previous discussions rather than re-invent the wheeel. Also found it useful to provide input myself. :-)

Peace!

I would say that the video is inconclusive. For starters, as is the problem with space, distance is any ones guess. This is also the matter in this case. It could be a U.F.O. being targeted by what can probably be called worlds worst targeted missile.
It could also be debris like some explained. the footage is once again not good and leaves to much room for speculation.

What I didn't like from the later footage was the thunderclouds. Thunderclouds spark lightning and lightning bolls up as well as down and this cases very strange natural phenomenons. That it was near thunderclouds gives rise to the question whether they be natural phenomenons or something using the clouds to hide (heh, with so many satellites I doubt that would be even a smart idea, let alone a smart thing to do )

War in space? Shure there is, contesting as always. Space can only be controlled in harmony by force. But it has been a loooooong time since that was effectively the case and it ended very very badly.

Originally posted by AncientShade
I would say that the video is inconclusive. For starters, as is the problem with space, distance is any ones guess. This is also the matter in this case. It could be a U.F.O. being targeted by what can probably be called worlds worst targeted missile.
It could also be debris like some explained. the footage is once again not good and leaves to much room for speculation.

World's worst targeted missle? Small joke right? The object in question slowly floats across the screen, at the moment of the flash take a pen and point it to the exact position where the object is located.

Then watch as the 'missile' shoots up from earth. The object at this moment decides it is going to go to the right, watch as the missile comes up, and its relation to the object. The missile comes very close to hitting the object, even though the object makes a huge burst of speed. The two objects almost intersect.

The video analyst points out that if this object were only 10 miles away, it went from 0-2500mph in one second. Thats 100g's, impossible to our 'known' technology. Now keep in mind, if these things were 1000 miles away, then that means the object was moving muchhh faster.

The booster dilemma doesn't hold water for me and the reasoning is simple. Both objects in question would have to be explained by the thrusters, yet the one object moves slowly to the left, then jolts up and to the right very quickly.

But the second object, shoots directly up "out of" the earth, it doesn't come on screen from one of the sides. It materializes in place on the picture and as it gets closer and goes by, its size increases and decreases respectively.

Ive seen this clip many times and I am convinced its not ice particles.
Nasa claims its ice particles that has been excited by the shuttles thrust boosters and thats the reason it moves the opposite way.

Take another look at the video.
There is more than one light source travelling in same direction,
Now if this is ice particles and has been moved in opposite direction by thrust,
Why has not all the ice particles moved in the same direction at the same time,
from what I can see, only one source of light move in opposite direction, wouldnt most of these light sources move the same directiction if caused by boost of shuttle?


also that thing shooting out the earths atmosphere is not lightning or a missle,


if you believe the theory that it is a projectile targeting a alien craft, then its possible its some form of ion cannon, just a guess though.

also has anybody ever read the book, The day after Roswell?

the book claims we are at war with an alien race and that Reagans star wars project was in fact for defence of the planet and not to shoot down nukes.

if its true or not i have no idea?

Originally posted by Inkrinhuminge
The video is English, with espaniol subtitles.

The video is in English with Portuguese subtitles, apparently this video was converted from the original VHS to digital by someone from the Brazilian Centre of UFO Research (or something like that).

The "official" explanation is that the small white dot that changes direction was an ice crystal or other small piece of debris floating around the shuttle, and the flashes are the firing of one the small thrusters that keep the shuttle on its course.

The hot gases from the thrusters pushed the ice crystal away from its original path.

And this video has been discussed maybe dozens of times on ATS, it's one of the most presented as "evidence" of something (that something changes with the people that claim it as evidence).

reply to post by songokudbz


I suggest you use the small search box at the top right of the pages, it gives much better results than the other search functions (that should be better than a Google search of the site, but that are almost useless)

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Yeah, I'm reading 'The Day After Roswell' at the moment. What I find a little odd about it is the way that Corso constantly refers to the UFOs as an alien threat, and the basis of all of the research he was conducting all goes forward with the aim of being able to meet the aliens on their own terms.
As to whether it's all true or not, well that's anyone's guess, though I've read on various threads here where people immediately poo-poo any reference to the book as nonsense. I'll just have to finish the book and make my own judgement.

Weaponising space.... could we not? Belligerence gets us nowhere...

The youtube video does not do justice to the actual footage because of the poor quality.

I remember when it was first released some years back, either seeing it on the big screen in the cinema, on the news, or one of the UFO programs on TV - it was very convincing. The objects were certainly a distance away and clear, plus the extraordinary speed the object displayed. No confusion at all, whether it is ice particles or booster.

In my mind, this would be the most convincing NASA footage of all, that intelligence was behind the objects.

At that time , I was a bit confused as to who would be shooting at who. Even the commentator was a bit short on explaining the event. Now having read more about the possible conflicts between different races of ETs, it makes much more sense.

Originally posted by A ConscienceNow having read more about the possible conflicts between different races of ETs, it makes much more sense.

The problem is that an ice crystal blown by the thrusters also makes sense, so we are left with just speculation.