is space the final fronteir?

Even from the confines of our tiny planet, we have been able to discover much about our immediate neighborhood and thanks to technology, we have discovered mysteries that extend into the vastness beyond, Our technology has taken us to the moon and someday, perhaps, our technology will allow us to follow our imaginations to Mars and beyond.

I think while is is a very big leap, it is not the last frontier, we still have the possibility of interdimensional?, Time travel, exploring the rest of our own planet fully. and also revealing the whole truths to mankind.

[edit on 17-4-2009 by MR BOB]

reply to post by MR BOB
yes i agree we have alot more to go before we get beyond the boundaries of the final fronteir, i agree that it could be time travel.

reply to post by jellyman1991


It's not just time or dimensions either...

How about the spirit or soul... what is it? where is it?
Does it really exist or are we just a responsive combination of electrical impulses over a network of nerves and flesh only to become completey void upon death.. like a battery...

Even if time and dimensions are bridged, what about the very fabric that makes up everything.. you might be able to travel through time, but what are you actually travelling through? What is time made of?

Is time a reality or just a man made concept?

What about dream states? Is a dream related to the spirit, dimensions, time or some other form of unknown reality?

We are only just on the tip of the ice berg..we have barely taken a step forward into what lies ahead of us.. Even some parts of our oceans and jungles are still a complete mystery.

reply to post by Extralien
good point, we can niether justify our soul or justify time, maybe one day we will bridge the gap between these things, but if we do find out will we be happy with the results?.

reply to post by jellyman1991


No I do not believe Space is the final frontier at all. It's a step, a big step but not a huge one.

Time travel as well as interdimensional is a much bigger step but yet there is much more we can learn about our own planet Earth and those lifeforms that live on it.

Hopefully by the time quantumtheories will be prooven theories, we will have found a way to live in harmony with/on the Earth.

I'll chime in with agreement with what else has been said here...

Space is a frontier that requires a big leap and which will allow mankind to make an even bigger leap, but it is far from the "Final" Frontier.

We actually know more about Space than we do the depths of our own oceans. I think the unexplored 75% of our Earth is an even bigger Frontier than Space for humankind to overcome. EDIT: That's assuming, of course that the Hollow Earther's are still wrong. If they are right, then we have yet another big frontier in our very own living room yet to explore!

And when you start considering Time, Parallel Dimensions, the Mind, the Spirit and the Soul, there are a lot of uncharted frontiers for us to explore...and chances are those are just tips of the proverbial iceberg. Each step into those areas will open new frontiers that we have yet to imagine.

Taking what we have explored in comparison to what we have yet to explore, we are still barely out of our primordial caves.

It's going to be a long, fun journey. It's enough to make one as giddy as a school-girl just thinking about it!

[edit on 17-4-2009 by fraterormus]

reply to post by Melyanna Tengwesta
i agree with you 100%, we haven't even explored our oceans thoroughly which we will one day but what is under the oceans??.

reply to post by fraterormus
exactly, they say that we know more about space than our oceans, if that is true then what is deep down in the sea??.

reply to post by jellyman1991


Humans are astonishingly clever and insatiably hungry for knowledge and understanding. This strong primal urge is what has brought us this far and it will push us to discover and to understand every aspect of everything there is to question. This won't be next month or even next millenium, but in thousands of years or longer, human's will indeed answer all the questions and unlock all the doors.

Originally posted by NathanNewZealand

Humans are astonishingly clever and insatiably hungry for knowledge and understanding. This strong primal urge is what has brought us this far and it will push us to discover and to understand every aspect of everything there is to question. This won't be next month or even next millenium, but in thousands of years or longer, human's will indeed answer all the questions and unlock all the doors.

Which is immensley unfortunate for all of those who want these answers NOW.
But this is the purpose of our daily search, our daily urge to go out there and find the answers..

I wonder how much further we would be if we didn't have people working on advertising or making sure we got the latest bling or gadgets or fashion.. how much further could we go if more of us were technicians or scientists?

Would doing things for mankind help us progress faster rather than doing things for more profit?

Just where is the ceiling of human ability? Are we destined to evolve into a creature that we have no concept of or will we evolve beyond the eed for a body and become dimensional beings..

It's a lot to consider and in the realms of science fiction, but so much of that sometimes becomes science fact.

How much further? All the way.
Humans have all the potential required, it's a pity we're so dumb and primitive right now.
We, most of us, work for other people, doing various tasks, so we can accumulate this thing we've invented called money, so we can buy this stuff we've invented called products so we can have products. Having products, that's the goal, that's the target, that's ridiculous.
I'm sure there's more to it all than that a? We're here only once, and that's what we do with our time and our efforts.
We are still very very primitive, many shifts in the way we think, as a species, are yet to come. Many stages of evolution are yet to come.
Humans will make it all the way, that's for sure.
I just feel sorry for the environments and the species that stand in our way.

reply to post by NathanNewZealand
that is right, we struggle for answers that we must find out for ourselves, i just hope we find them.

Like some have said in here. We haven't explored all of our planet yet. Then there's our solar system and galaxy. Then all the other galaxies, planets, moons etc... The universe is so huge that it will be explored for billions of years or more. Then maybe other universes too. And what about the unknown? There may be things out there that will blow our minds and change the way we think. We only know what our senses can feel, see, hear, smell etc.., and what we've experienced. Man there's so much out there beyond us that our final frontier can not be seen yet. I hope our human race will survive earth first. I think earth is our testing ground and if we don't change our ways and get beyond wars, money, hate then we're going to be stuck here. So I think space is our new training/testing ground and humans have the ability to adapt and survive. Let's hope we never see a final frontier that wouldn't be any fun at all.

reply to post by Solarskye
thats true but if we find out that the final fronteir would be what we least expected would we be disappointed with the outcome, are we never going to get the answers, if we would travel to space or the ocean depths would we even think of that as the final fronteir??.

Originally posted by jellyman1991
reply to post by Melyanna Tengwesta

 

i agree with you 100%, we haven't even explored our oceans thoroughly which we will one day but what is under the oceans??.

That a Question for starters What's under the oceans?

Since we haven't been there yet we don't know. There are theories but none has proven to be right yet.

I remember reading The Bermunda Triangle by Charles Berlitz (1974) in 1977. He wrote that there is a white glow from the water visible at Orange Key and that its still visible in outer space. The Apollo 12 Astronauts saw it as last light from Earth. Quite intriging.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Picture by J.M. Valentine (page 79 in the book)

White light has been seen around ships that have been vanished in that erea.

edugreen.teri.res.in...

And what to think about what is under the Northpole and Antartica? Now with ice melting at the speed it does the next generations might be able to see Piri Reis's map come alive...

Hollow Earth? I do not believe that theory. Maybe there are hollow-like parts in the upper layers but we will on a planet that is made out of liquid fire IMHO.

[edit on 4/18/2009 by Melyanna Tengwesta]

reply to post by jellyman 1991


Well I guess that depends on who's theory is right...String or chaos...
Chaos theory suggests there is a Multiverse (Many different universes and realities) String theory hints that different dimensions lay like sheets of paper in a book.

If either is correct and we survive long enough to learn to explore these "other" places then Space is as blasé as a trip to the mall

reply to post by DaddyBare
yes but maybe by chance we will find one of those alternate universes?, if so wouldn't we wan't to live in our universe because our universe is technically finding out new things faster then the alternate univere and then we would have to have this discussion again but in another world where we wouldnt be sure if anything is certain........if you know what i mean?.

Earth maybe our finale frontier. Humanity has failed to move out and beyond even though we could do it if we focus more resources on it. We MUST colonize the Moon, Asteroids and other planetary bodies that are able to support colonization. We should seed Mars now with plants that would grow and build atmosphere. We do not owe Mars or any possible organic life molecules on Mars a chance to evolve. We owe it to ourselves to ensure humanities survival after Earth. We have no idea how long Earth will be able to support us. There are so many perils that could wipe us out here including ourselves.

We could even colonize smaller asteroids that we could move that could serve as lifeboats for future disaterers or even use them as interstellar multi generational spacecraft to travel to nearby start systems.

We should at least send an automated probe to Alpha star system that would automatically reach the system and snap some pictures and come back! Future generations would know whats out there if we do.

reply to post by Xeven
yes but if we colonized asteroids wouldn't that be dangerous becuase asteroids reach high speeds and collide into things?