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Originally posted by LeaderOfProgress
That is a very interesting take on things and I will be sure to investigate further the documents that you have put forth. I would not be surprised to find that there are people involved in the making of treaties that had intentions not for the people but for their own personal or organizational agendas.
Originally posted by huckfinn
The concrete proof is this...the person who is/was behind all the corruption you speak of is Reza Pahlavi (wannabe god of the whole world)...and he has been stripped of nearly all of his power and influence; what remains of his world rests upon the shoulders of one 17 years old boy. His whole world, what was and what he hoped to be, is crumbling in full view for all to see.
He doesn't have this power anymore, because someone took it from him. He sued for peace. Look at the Cook County Clerk of the Circuit Court case docket from 2006. He was represented by Nirav and Harshad Shah; he received a small settlement.
He tried to engage his enemy again later in the same year and lost Saddam. He sued again, same court docket, he was represented by a big fat whore named Dorie Williams and Sanford Kahn; again he received a small settlement.
One of his intelligence operatives, a 17 years old boy of Cambodian descent is the only thing that keeps him covered. Its about a wrap for that as well. So you see, that for the criminals you speak of, there is little to no hope whatsoever.
[edit on 9-4-2009 by huckfinn]
Originally posted by LeaderOfProgress
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Very true to the point. Though I don't doubt there are key players in the world affairs, I doubt just one calls the shots. The problem like you said is it is a mountain. This mountain is built by the greed of several individuals and groups who's sole goal is monetary greed, and the persuit of power. These peoples see no apex to their goal, therefore making it a never ending pursuit. When I speak of the people that are in power I am talking of our government at every tier from the lowley mayor of a town to the President and the corporations and banking industrials that lobby them. These people need to be held accountable for their actions. Even if there was one person pulling the strings the key arguement remains that the majority of people elected to help our country have choosen a side shall we could best call the dark side. This is the side of corruption and greed. The daunting task that is before us is to elimate such problems and put in place people that are here for the people.
Originally posted by LeaderOfProgress
That is a very good opinion on things that stays right in line with alot of truths that are so obvious to those who actually care about our nations future. The statement that the government will not change until the people want it to is spot on. Now what I would like to happen, and will spend so much of my time doing is informing and educating ALL of the people I can as to the true state of affairs. You are very correct that the american populace is very under educated. The problem is that now colleges are geared towards teaching how to use the corrupt system instead of teaching everyone how to fix it. Recent history proves that when a proffesor begins to speak of how to fix the system they are quickly chastized and let go. From what I can tell the most of us in this thread are in agreement as to the problem that exists. Now how do you all feel the proper course of action is?
Originally posted by cbianchi513
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Sorry I've been remiss in posting... your post and the documents you brought to light in this thread were mind tingling! Thanks for the additions.
In essence, you're stating that even if We, the People regained our republic... We'd be in debt to foreign powers that potentially could come to collect by force? I'm merely trying to understand more clearly.
Is it essential to even have the support of other nations, or simply a lack of intervention in a potential revolution? If so, I would first be concerned with Canada and Mexico, for obvious reasons.
Originally posted by LeaderOfProgress
That is a very interesting take on things with very valid points. The process of returning the government is not going to happen overnight. I will respond later with a little different take on the how to from my point of view. I just have a couple of things to do right now.