Beck "Debunks" FEMA Camps

reply to post by Curious_Agnostic


PM as independent?? When tf did this happen.. They aren't independent.. another garbage segment from the garbage media.

If you wanna know more about how independent PM is head over to the 9/11 forums, they showed how independent they really are.

[edit on 4/6/2009 by ThichHeaded]

Originally posted by Frankidealist35
I know I saw that too.

Doesn't Glenn know what happens to people who go down this road?

I pray for his safety.

Save your prayers. There's no need to worry about Glenn Beck's safety when his "independent investigative panel" that's "researching" the FEMA camps is James Meigs of Popular Mechanics (PM is owned by Hearst Communications, original recipient of the phrase "yellow journalism.")

This is proof that Glenn Beck and his "independent research" is as phony as a three dollar bill.

reply to post by GoldenFleece


So, with the current evidence presented insofar, namely Beech Grove, do you believe what they say is not true and that Beech Grove is actually an active FEMA facility?

Actually, I watched the show and thought it was well done. You can catch the video on glennbeck.com. At the end he had a "teaser" about an actual government concentration camp where torture is most likely taking place complete with aerial photo. Beck said "There is one question I haven't asked about it." The segment will continue with the answer to that one question on this evening's show.

I suspect that the question will be "Which government" or "What country is it in", and the answer will most likely be China (or some other nefarious place).

I enjoy Beck's show and believe he is sincere and not trying to cover up for TPTB. I've never taken seriously the notion that our government intends to do to us what the Nazis did.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by GoldenFleece

 

So, with the current evidence presented insofar, namely Beech Grove, do you believe what they say is not true and that Beech Grove is actually an active FEMA facility?

Without further investigation, it's hard to say. But I do know two things:

1) Halliburton was given almost $400 million to build these camps for a government that took a week just to deliver some food and water to the Hurricane Katrina victims, and

2) James Meigs is one of the last people on the planet I'd trust to tell me the truth about anything.

I believe he was lying but I think I made a point earlier. Popular Mechanics=ignorance and I'm sure other people did copy and paste that without letting them read the rest of it

Above all though I don't think a biased and censored media outlet should be a credible source of information, however they have been letting out info bit by bit. They also have in the recent months covered many topics that could get them fired, but those don't belong here.

Putting aside the dis-trust of Popular Mechanics for a moment, what they presented regarding Beech Grove is true. I've pointed it out before.

Rail car repair man advertised position

Job Title: Carman (Car Repair)
Location: Beech Grove, Indiana - Mechanical facility
Department: Mechanical
Salary: $23.87 per hour

This position is responsible for maintenance, overhaul, repair and replacement of train cars and its electrical/mechanical units in accordance with AAR, FRA and Amtrak standards and guidelines.

Some photos of trains inside the Amtrak facility:
michianacentral.com...

Some more photos of trains from the outside of the amtrak facility:
tbedwell.smugmug.com...

Originally posted by Chadwickus
Putting aside the dis-trust of Popular Mechanics for a moment, what they presented regarding Beech Grove is true. I've pointed it out before.

Some photos of trains inside the Amtrak facility:
michianacentral.com...

Some more photos of trains from the outside of the amtrak facility:
tbedwell.smugmug.com...

I'm feeling generous today, so I'm gonna give you this one.

The first set of photos from 2001 is especially convincing.

But it doesn't negate the existence of FEMA camps that Halliburton was contracted to build -- something like $400 million. The best we can hope for is that Halliburton did the same amount of work for FEMA that they did for their reconstruction contracts in Iraq.

There are hundreds of concentration camps, going back to Reagan and Rex84. To take one camp that is doubtful and use it as a strawman to debunk, thinking this is going to convince people that all the hundreds of camps reported by the MSM don't exist --

this is very sleezy disinformation.

Alex says Glenn Beck is a long sewer line straight to Hell, and he is, a sleezy, writhing, slimy disinformation agent who enjoys getting paid to lie and fool people.

As Alex said yesterday on his show, Where is your discernment! Glenn Beck pretends to be a conservative, says "trust me," and then shovels on the lies and disinformation.

You obviously havent read the bill if you think it gives permission for the government to prison american citizens.

reply to post by GoldenFleece


Please show me where hr 645 allows to government to imprison innocent citizens. Actually show me anywhere in hr 645 where it talks about imprisoning anyone.

Stay in this link for awhile. It's got videos of Alex on yesterday's show. He completely blew Glenn Beck out of the water. There is just a ton of proof the camps exist. Glenn and his yellow journalist friend from Popular Mechanics did not disprove anything but casting doubt on the most doubtful of all the camps from a video that is, what, 15 years old? If there are trains there, so what. This one place may or may not be a real FEMA camp, but Glenn Beck says none exist anywhere except in Iran and other countries he would like to see Israel and the U.S. and England nuke. Glenn Beck is a disinformation agent, a snake in the grass, and if you fall for his propaganda it's because you want to believe him. He did not examine this issue at all, just zeroed in on one old video and tried to debunk it, didn't even succeed in my opinion in debunking the most vulnerable case he could come up with.

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Yeah if you want an honest reporter just goto Lou Dobbs or someone else.

Glenn Beck is a fox NWO shill.

Alex Jones completely destroyed him in his show.

reply to post by Salt of the Earth



Actually he took the most popular video on youtube claiming the area in question was a fema camp and proved it to be wrong.

reply to post by Salt of the Earth


How about 1 picture you took yourself. Or just STFU do you have an issue with that proof!

Here's footage of a camp for families in Taylor, Texas, filmed by Alex Jones' crew. Shows there's kids here, not just terrible criminals as we hear all these places are "just for regular criminals." The beginning of the video has a news clip from a local news station describing the grabbing of a Palestinian family and shows a diagram of four camps where the family was split up and sent to. This footage also shows how difficult it is to get this kind of footage, even when people are standing on property that is not part of the prison compound. And where do you think the people are staying who were taken from Katrina? They are in FEMA camps. NOW. And I suppose the stuff we saw on live TV regarding Katrina doesn't exist? And the money and authorization from Congress to build more camps, given to Halliburton, that doesn't exist either?

www.livevideo.com...

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reply to post by Salt of the Earth


Again this is not a fema camp, it is the T. Don Hutto Detention Center. It has no connection with fema what so ever. Alex Jones is an idiot. Here is an article about the facility. T Don Hutto Det. Cent.

it and a smaller center in Leesport, Pennsylvania are the only two facilities in the United States authorized to hold non-Mexican immigrant families and children on noncriminal charges. Its purpose is to hold immigrant families together while they await the outcome of their immigration hearings or their return to their home countries.[2] It began operating in the summer of 2006. Previously, illegal immigrants with children would be released with a notice to appear before an immigration judge. While it has 512 total beds in the facility, it currently houses approximately 300 individuals, about half of which are children. The detainees are a diverse group, including families of all sorts and of all ages.

It isnt even authorized to hold US Citizens, nor is it for criminals.

Since the Hutto facility is privately run, it has been difficult for members of the general public to gather information. Friends, family members, and lawyers of detainees, on the other hand, are granted private visitation 7 days a week with no limit on the number of visits. Human rights groups are also a common sight at the facility. Catholic Charities and Political Asylum Project of Austin conduct bi-weekly presentations for detainees regarding their legal rights and offering legal assistance. Also in the month of March and April 2008, American Civil Liberties Union as well as members of the League of United Latin American Citizens were granted extensive tours of the facility. Community volunteers from area places of worship visit weekly to conduct multiple religious services for detainees

Yup, sounds like a fema death camp to me.

reply to post by Salt of the Earth


And the people who were affected by katrina do not live in fema camps. They do live in trailers that fema gave them. I live in S. Florida and when Hurricane Charlie ripped through Charlotte county they set up over 500 fema trailers for families that lost their home. I sure the conditions were not ideal, I remeber articles about people complaining about crime and such at these "fema cities", but they were not trapped or forced to stay there. They could come and go as they please and it did put a roof over their heads. There were not trapped in a fema prison like you claim Katrina victims are. You really need to rethink your stance on this. Everyone of your posts are so easy to shoot down. Do you not do your own research. Do you just listen to AJ and take his word for it. Talk about a sheep. Think for yourself for once, dont just take AJ word for it.
Here is what one google search could have told you about Katrina Victims

The Federal Emergency Management Agency said the $5.6 billion housing assistance program that began after the 2005 storms was the largest federal temporary housing operation in the nation's history.

At its peak, 143,000 households along the Gulf Coast were living in temporary housing units.

FEMA is urging its remaining tenants in travel trailers to work with federal and state case managers up to the deadline to find permanent housing. Those living in park model or larger homes have the option to purchase the structures.

source

Wow, you're right, those fema people sound so evil.

[edit on 8-4-2009 by tide88]

Originally posted by tide88

Wow, you're right, those fema people sound so evil.

[edit on 8-4-2009 by tide88]

Sure, they are evil. They kept the trucks from bringing food and water to the people suffering in Katrina. They prevented the local police and firemen from repairing the telephone lines. They ordered the people's weapons of self-defense to be taken from them. They forced people to leave their homes and go to detainment facilities. They separated families. They did everything possible, in my view, to see that as many people died as possible, and that people would lose their homes.

And who is building the camps for FEMA? Halliburton, notorious for practicing white slavery. Evil upon evil.

Their stated goal is to round up people in case of martial law, illegals and "potential terrorists."

Obviously the illegals are not considered any threat to the government or the borders would not be wide open and every accommodation given to the illegals. The story that these camps are being built for illegals is just that -- a story. I don't believe it.

The plans to put people in these camps has even been named "Endgame."

If you want to go to a FEMA camp, if you think the government is really here to help you and you want to go to one of those places, go ahead and hop on the truck and go. I will be hiding in the woods when they come for me.

And they WILL be coming. You can count on that. And they will have their hypos all loaded up for you to take your mandatory shots. You happy about that too?

Department of Homeland Security, a bogus agency set up to protect us from terrorists, terrorists who do not exist, or at least not the way the government tells us they do. 9/11 was an inside job. The government is the terrorists. They are the criminals, the ones who are murdering and lying and stealing and destroying the country.

They want to go to war so bad, to attack a peaceful country that can do us no harm, way across the ocean, and incite WWIII. Are they building us any bomb shelters? NO. No bomb shelters, just camps with barbed wire and lookout towers and military people with machine guns to guard us, but just for our own good, so we can be safe. Right? And they have the military practicing drills on how to round us up, to take our guns.

And they are digging graves and collecting coffins to put us in. Last month they tried to start a plague with bird flu.

The new president has announced a universal draft. The American version of the Khmer Rouge, young zealots who have been taught the world is overpopulated and people are killing the planet by breathing. They are going to take these young people, indoctrinate them the same way they now indoctrinate the police and FBI and other agents that we the American people are the enemy, the bad guys, especially if we are a Christian or homeschool or believe in the Constitution and asserting our rights under that Constitution.

A few weeks ago we learned how a five-year-old was detained for hours and hours at the airport because his name was on a no fly list. He was searched and questioned and humiliated, he and his mother.

You better believe they are going to put us in those camps. And the best thing we can do to stop them is to holler about those camps and expose the paid liars like Glenn Beck who are working for these vampires.

reply to post by Salt of the Earth


Wow man you are really delusional. I really feel for you. You must live in constant fear. Doesnt sound like a healthy lifestyle to me. And just like rex84, they have been saying this for 28 years now and guess what? IT HASNT HAPPENED. I will talk to you again in 2012, after the 21st of dec. Until then I find it pointless having a discussion with you. Maybe when nothing still hasnt happened you will wake up to reality.