Jim, how important was Rudolf Hess in establishing the 3rd reich? And a few other questions.

I'm currently reading The Rise of the 4th Reich. I love it so far. I've looked online and so far as far as I can tell everything you've written about is document. So, I have a few important questions.

I'm curious about Rudolf Hess. How powerful was he? Did he have many international banking connections?

With operation paperclip- the US brought many Nazi scientists over here- knowingly and they admit it. What have these Nazi scientists contributed here that we did not do ourselves?

You mention the bilderburg a couple of times. But I am unclear of their role in the war. I know that the bilderburg group exists. I know that I'm not questioning that. It's been mentioned in the MSM a few times. I'm curious about their role in the war. Could you expand on it? I'm on chapter 2 right now... but please don't expand on it if I'll find out about their role later in the group.

Also, may I ask what your opinion of the Young and Dawe act?





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I can think of Warner Von Braun, who developed our space agencies and rocket propulsion systems. He was probably the most famous Nazi scientist most Americans have heard of. I'll let Mr Marrs comment on others, but Von Braun is quite celebrated here.

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Howdy Frankidealist35,

If you have finished the section on Rudolf Hess in my book "The Rise of the Fourth Reich," then you know about as much as there is to know about Hess, his strange flight to England in 1941 and the possibility that an impostor was substituted for the real Hess, who possibly died in a mid-1942 air crash. But it appears from the totality of the evidence that Hess was much more important in the Nazi hierarchy than was let on by both Hitler and Churchill. His peace flight was aimed at convincing a clique in Britain involving the Royals and ranking aristocrats to make peace with Germany and join the fight against Russian communism. With his death, whether contrived or accidental, these plans were squashed and World War 2 history as we know it moved on. This is only one further example that history as we are taught is not necessarily the truth. But then, as they say, history is written by the victors. As for the Bildebergers, made up largely of European aristocrats and corporate leaders, you will learn more in my book. But just be assured that this group, led by the international financiers, is much more meaningful than admitted by the corporate-controlled mass media. Then again, this is not surprising as they own that media.

Jim Marrs

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Interesting post . I first took a particular interest in Hess when I read the book the Murder of Rudolph Hess by a guy called Hugh(SP?) Thomas . Now from memory the papers surrounding Hess flight to the UK were classified for 75 years. So any documents that haven't gotten " lost " should be made available for public viewing in the foreseeable future . One idea I have read is that British intel used fake psychics(SP?) to trick Hess into coming to the UK . Heck Hess flight to the UK is so bizarre that just about any explanation could almost be creditable .

Jim, thanks for answering my initial question.

I have a few more questions.

#1- Why do you feel the media is reporting the bilderberg group as a factual group (not as a fiction one)?

#2- What do you think is the purpose of this scare mongering regarding the swine flu?

#3- What do you think the bilderberg group accomplishes by lying that we have a free market when we don't have one? Is this to get the Republicans on their side?

#4- Do you think Obama will turn on the bilderberg?

#5- What role does the CFR play with the bilderberg?

#6- I've often said that they're using us dry (the bilderberg). What are their goals after we're no longer a super power?

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Howdy Frankidealist35,

Jim, thanks for answering my initial question. I have a few more questions.

#1- Why do you feel the media is reporting the Bilderberg group as a factual group (not as a fiction one)? Because it IS a real organization that wields more power than any government.

#2- What do you think is the purpose of this scare mongering regarding the swine flu? Please see my response to FlyersFan regarding the Swine Flu.

#3- What do you think the Bilderberg group accomplishes by lying that we have a free market when we don't have one? Is this to get the Republicans on their side? The Bilderbergers already have the Republicans on their side -- and the Democrats. They are primarily global Socialists and they control both parties though their corporate power. They use the political parties to distract and confuse the public and to keep attention away from themselves. The Republicans under George W. Bush practiced National Socialism (the German language acronym is Nazi) while the Democrats practice Marxist Socialism. Any Socialist program requires central administration and the Bilderberg members have the wealth and power to control that administration.

#4- Do you think Obama will turn on the Bilderberg? No way. First, if he balks are their programs, they can dispose of him quickly by simply releasing his real birth records showing he is not qualified under the US Constitution to be president and thus force a constitutional crisis. If that doesn't work, they will just kill him like they did John F. Kennedy and blame it on some patsy.

#5- What role does the CFR play with the Bilderberg? The Bilderbergers are simply the inner core elite of the CFR, which is composed of American corporate leaders. The Bilderbergers are mostly Europeans.

#6- I've often said that they're using us dry (the Bilderberg). What are their goals after we're no longer a super power? Their goal may have been revealed by Nicholas “Nick” Rockefeller, a participant in the World Economic Forum, member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the International Institute for Strategic Studies. According to the late Hollywood producer Aaron Russo, Rockefeller told him, “The end goal is to get everybody chipped, to control the whole society, to have the bankers and the elite people control the world.”

Jim Marrs

How important was Rudolf Hess in esteblishing the 3rd Reich ?
As much important as the British Royals, The Swedish royals the Danish royals and the Dutch Royals were.
Plus of course the "occupied" leaders of France and other european countries including Franco of Spain.

In 1939 Rudolf Hess went to London to finalize a deal with the UK in which Germany would provide all European countries with a Lorentz cipher mechine to make sure they were kept up to date with Germany's war efforts against the Soviet Union , in real time.

Churchill later on was carefully listening on the Lorentz machine as the Germans prepared to attack Coventry but didn't do anything, to avoid alerting the Soviets from the possibility that the UK was aware in real time of what Hitler was doing with Hitler's own approval.

The dutch royals also agreed, from Canada, to the bombing and destruction of Rotterdam using a Lorentz cipher machine, kindly gifted to hem by Rudolf Hess. After all, Rotterdam was a a fair price to pay to become part of the Third Reich

Similar stories apply to Norway, Finland and Sweden, who eagerly joined the ranks in the hope of a bright nazi future for Europe. All of them had their own carefully built lorentz machine, which constantly updated them of the highest strategic thought and upcoming decisions of Hitler, well in advance. Possibly years in advance.

Every European royals family and so-called leader, was give one of those machines directly from the 3rd reich vice-fuehrer and all of the encryption keys worth more than 10 years of available traffic.

There's only one doubt still ... and one certainty in all of this :
The Soviet Union didn't get the Lorentz machine!
Did the US get one in 1939 , like the other European countries ? That's not yet clear ....