Diamond shaped ufo.. recent release

Originally posted by mike73173
reply to post by NightVision

 

Hello Nightvision. I can see that you're still trying to stir up madness on my account. You are free to think what you want about me, and make any assessments that you choose. It just amazes me that you won't let go.

That is simply your perspective. I have calmly asked you (once) to provide credentials to back up your claims. Your response then and now, is that I'm a disinformation agent, I'm stirring up madness, and that I wont let it go.

I'm not sure if youtube keeps logs of private messages, but I would be happy to provide to our fellow ATSr's evidence of you claiming to have served in the armed forces. Now you say you never did. You also claimed that more happened that your 'not willing to go into.' Forgive me, but we've heard this story before.

Don't get me wrong. I want to believe your story. But there are some gaps in reasoning and leaps of logic here that I simply do not accept. And that is just one man's opinion. Everyone else is free to believe you.

Credibility is everything in this field, sir. Everything.

[edit on 2-4-2009 by NightVision]

reply to post by DaMod


Where did you find this...I'm amazed that you found something else in relatively clear detail that resembles this craft. Excellent work.

Hit me up.

reply to post by NightVision


Please do...provide those claims, because, that my friend has never come out of my mouth, nor would it. I am not in the bad habit of telling lies or exaggeration.

Also, my evidence is in my vids. Like I said, we've been though this before. And I distinctly remember my asking you to provide evidence for your claim of a sighting that you had. From what I recall, all you had was a poorly written MUFON report with nothing backing it other than your word. Several people asked for a picture or a vid that you could not provide. So, how do we know that your experience is nothing more than a cry for help, or a way to make a name for yourself, or even worse...a way to falsify a report to get your story in print??? I don't believe that this is the case...I would like to think that you have some honor because hoaxing in this field is precisely what makes UFology hard to investigate.

Anyway...we could go round and round again. It would only end in you getting frustrated and running away...AGAIN. Therefore, this will be my last post to you. I wish you nothing but the best, and I truly mean that. You are still a brother to me that shares the same planet, and I applaud you for your interest and skeptical mind. Just remember. Not everyone is a hoaxer, and far more exists in this reality than meets the eye.

Farewell bro. Continue on your path and thank you for your interest in my video.

reply to post by DaMod


Unfortunately the Turkish UFO is a fake.

So there is no comparison there I'm afraid.

The turkish ufo footage can be found at:-

Turkish UFO

Originally posted by mike73173
reply to post by NightVision

 

Also, my evidence is in my vids.

Claim #1:

"Black SUV's parked behind my home for two years."




Your video camera wasn't working during this time? No phone call to the police? Where's the MUFON investigator during this time?

Claim #2:

"Missile-Armed Helicopters hovering at close range on and off for two years."





I asked you to post this footage before because if you did, it would go along way toward cementing a claim of being surveilled. Footage of this nature is 'useless' to post, as you put it. The exact opposite is true.

Claim #3

"Harassment started before I ever posted the video to you tube, and that they must have tracked me down by 'scanning my license plate'.



There are literally dozens, if not hundreds of other cars on the road who saw the same thing. Why do u think they chose you? How do u know you were 'the only ones filming', as u claim?

These are all valid questions. There's no need to cry foul here.

Farewell bro. Continue on your path and thank you for your interest in my video.

That is what you want isn't it?




[edit on 2-4-2009 by NightVision]

I have an aversion to repeating myself, but I think the last post was somewhat easy to skip since it was at the bottom of page 3. So I'll ask again.

Mike, would you mind posting a drawing of the object?

I know the report was back from 2006, but if you can remember any details that aren't evident from the video it would help. I'm particularly interested in the profile and bottom views of the craft.

[edit on 2-4-2009 by Xtraeme]

Originally posted by Xtraeme
I have an aversion to repeating myself, but I think the last post was somewhat easy to skip since it was at the bottom of page 3. So I'll ask again.

Mike, would you mind posting a drawing of the object?

I know the report was back from 2006, but if you can remember any details that aren't evident from the video it would help. I'm particularly interested in the profile and bottom views of the craft.

[edit on 2-4-2009 by Xtraeme]

I would love to, but, I don't have a scanner to upload the drawing. I could check around and see if I have friends that have one. I'm sure someone around here would have to.

I'll see what I can do.

Originally posted by mike73173
I would love to, but, I don't have a scanner to upload the drawing. I could check around and see if I have friends that have one. I'm sure someone around here would have to.

I'll see what I can do.

Thanks Mike I appreciate the effort. If you have a hard time finding a scanner, even a photograph of the drawing would do. Since you're a college student I'd be surprised if the campus computer labs or the administrative offices didn't have what you needed. If that fails I know Kinko's provides this sort of service though I'm not sure how much it would cost.

I don't want to put you out. If you don't want to go through all the hoopla feel free to mail the drawings to one of us. I'd be more than happy to scan it for you. I have some pretty high-end equipment and I'd happily mail back the originals.


[edit on 3-4-2009 by Xtraeme]

Originally posted by mike73173
reply to post by NightVision

I do believe, although I cannot prove, that the diamond shaped craft was military and not extraterrestrial. It was not convention though and I'm still trying to figure out how they knew that my friend and I were beneath them to where they could pin-point us on a spotlight
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[Reply by DreamingMan]...
That is a very good observation & I have a possible answer. I emphasis "possible," because of the huge advancements in DOD MIL Tech these days.

FLIR (Forward Looking Infrared) has been around for many years now. It is used on Military, Civilian Police, Rescue, etc. Helos. Essentially, the pilots can see ANY THING that is radiating heat:
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[outsourced by DreamingMan]...
* FLIR infrared IR cameras were originally developed by the United States Navy to assist in the identification and targeting of opposition forces. FLIR units measure the amount of infrared energy emitted by various objects and life forms. In other words, it allows the user to "see" the amount of heat (or thermal energy) an object emits. Infrared energy is normally invisible to the human eye, but FLIR cameras are able to detect and interpret emissions and provide the user with an image, even in complete darkness.

* FLIR IR cameras are still highly effective under conditions of low-visibility or complete darkness. By providing an image of the infrared energy being emitted by objects, the system can still "see" in complete darkness or obscured visibility. While the effectiveness of the system may be diminished when viewing distant objects under obscured conditions, FLIR infrared cameras still provide better visibility than other night vision enhancement systems. Because it measures thermal energy, FLIR infrared cameras can be used to conduct surveillance without relying on search lights or special lighting, improving the user’s ability to remain undetected.

* During the past decades, however, FLIR thermography cameras have been adapted for use aboard all types of aircraft, naval vessels, and ground vehicles; in recent years.

* FLIR binocular or digital goggle fusion camera could assist in pursuits and Search and Rescue missions.

* FLIR thermal imagers can also be used during day light hours.

* FLIR thermal infrared imaging cameras are designed to videotape what the operator sees. In addition, units may also serve as daylight video recording systems.

* Because the system is not dependent on the use of a search light (which might produce shadows and distortions on a videotape.

*** Because the system works without relying on light sources, it can be operated in a covert manner. Personnel scanning a dark parking lot could observe potential victims or suspects without alerting these party’s to their presence. Individuals can be clearly seen, even under conditions of complete darkness. These unique thermal infrared night vision applications might enhance to covert nature of surveillance operations.
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[***] This last statement was demonstrated recently on a Police Program which I watched. While the Helo was in stationary hover, the ground suspects were hiding in complete darkness. The FLIR was affixed on them & they were not illumed in any way whatsoever. Simultaneously, the aircrew were purposely lighting up a couple other areas as a feint, all the while talking a ground Police Team into the spot where the suspects were.
[DreamingMan ends]
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Another strange thing that happened was the light that came spiraling towards the camera. Initially, I mistook it as light refraction, but light refraction jumps back and fourth as opposed to fall in a circular motion. however, if you notice just before the spotlights come on, a ball of light falls from the left side of the craft (your left side) and then light spirals towards the camera. To my knowledge, that's not normal. I'm not sure what technology like this would be used for because I was not harmed or affected in any way, but, it obviously had a purpose.
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Disclaimer: DreamingMan deeply apologizes for his severe lapse in computer skills at this time.

Originally posted by UKWO1Phot
reply to post by DaMod

 

I was thinking exactly the same thing (How much it looks like the Turkish UFO)

2 lines honest....

I agree as well. I watched the vid on the Turkish UFO, & I see some striking similarities, mainly in the shape.

The Turkish UFO did all manner of shape shifting however.

Mike's UFO was more fluid in motion & movement, IMHO.

reply to post by NightVision


Nightvision..You are digging yourself a huge hole you are never going to be able to climb out of so I would just leave it if i were you.... People being randomly picked on without anything illegal taking place, has a history as long as modern Ufology.

I don't think it's any coincidence that, since the advent of the mass availability of video cameras came about , this sort of harassment seemed to drop off.However, it still does happen and it happens enough for many to simply remain quiet about their experiences.

One that was related to me by a very *sane and normal mother* went as follows...

They had no interest in UFOs or Science Fiction at all. They never even considered UFOs and thought many people who were , seemingly obsessed by it all, * a little sad*. So when she had her own UFO experience it was, to put mildly, a completely unwelcome intrusion into her way of life.

To that end , she didn't even tell her own family, or for that matter , a single one for her friends What is more, she would never have told me either had it not been for another experience some weeks later just as she had managed to assimilate the whole experience and deal with as just *one of those things*...

Whilst out shopping and totally midning her own business a guy walked up to her and softly said, so only she could hear,

"You were right not to talk about it to anyone"...

Unsurpringly a little distressed by the invasion of her private space she was caught off guard and stuttered ..

"I'm sorry what do you mean"?

The guy simply smiled and said.. "You were right not to mention your experience" and with that, he was gone into the throng of shoppers.

The lady concerned had no wish to follow him.and simply started shaking, then fled home immediately.

Now, when i asked her about what the guy looked like all she could remember was his voice and that he was wearing a dark but well tailored suit. That is, not some shambolic itinerant who wanders around just accosting strangers and lambasting them with their weirdness and views on life. The guy sought her out, said what he said, and then was gone..

It scared her so much, she admitted, after the event out shopping, she had not left the house for nearly 2 days as she felt her whole life was under the scrutiny of some agency she had no wish to have been brought to the attention of.

Now, im sure all the sceptic know it alls will be just busting to pen something about it was just , mere coincidence, she was onbviuolsy just paranoid etc etc. However, i am also willing to bet, others reading this anonymously are mouthing the words

*it wasn't just me then that something like that happened to*

I am also willing to bet, anyone who has actually interviewed UFO witnesses has a tale similar to the one i have just recounted. Milke's experiences, whether true or not in his particular case, do, indeed, have a long and well documented history as part of the UFO phenomena





[edit on 2-4-2009 by FireMoon]

reply to post by DREAMING MAN


Thermal imaging is the first thing I thought of as well when Mike mentioned that he was spotted immediately in the dark. What most people are not aware of is that people actually stand out from the background so it is like an alerting system because you don't have to search a large area for the shape of something. My thermal imager even has an alarm on it that I can set to trigger if it detects an object at body temperature. I can just walk around until the imager alarms and then look at what it has pointed out on the screen.
Here are a couple of images from my FLIR thermal imager to illustrate what I mean.





With video it is even more effective: Video of me locating deer with a thermal imager

Here it is...The Diamond Shaped UFO vid with the audio track. As I said before, I edited out some of the conversation between my friend and I. This way, the audio isn't criticized as heavily as my first post was. Tons of people complained about the radio, our voices, the language, and the content of our conversation. This time, I took out the things that could cause some disruption.

That's weird, I just tried to embed the video, but it wouldn't let me.

Anyway...here's the URL

www.youtube.com...

I'm not sure why I couldn't embed it, but, one of you are more than welcome to do it.

reply to post by dainoyfb


That would definitely explain their pinpoint precision. Thanks for showing me that. It would also explain a couple of other spotlighting situations that I have had happen.

reply to post by mike73173


Thanks for re-adding the audio back in to the video! Out of curiosity, at the end of the sequence, is the plane that's heard in the background (2:54 - 3:14) from the object you're recording or from another aircraft off camera? Or do you not remember? I ask because during the opening as the object overflies you (0:17 - 0:24) there's no engine noise.

Oh and since the BBCode was giving you a hassle here's an embedded copy of the updated video.



[edit on 3-4-2009 by Xtraeme]

can anybody else see the nose and fuselage when the craft is fully lit around 3:00??

reply to post by Inarismessenger


I don't know, at 300...I see what appears to be the lights, like a headlight beam, that's about it. It looks the same way when its coming through the cloud cover. You can see high headbeams. Does not appear to be a nose to me.

reply to post by Xtraeme


To be honest, I can't remember...it was in 2006. I know that there was sound the second time, but, it sounded more like wind being sliced than a jet or a plane.