Loud explosions in Hampton Roads area

So we have conflicting stories.

One from a us source saying it was a russian rocket exploding.
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and another from a russian source saying US fighters were shot down by alien aircraft...

obviously someone's lieing.

Just started reading this, but, wanted to say... last night around 8 p.m. there was what appeared to look like smoke in the N-NE sky. I did not smell anything, but, it just looked smokey or like a veil over half the sky. I was thinking another storm moving in, but, there was nothing and my dog did not react like it was a storm. She sniffed the air, but, was not alarmed.

Also checked... RSOE...

The National Weather Service released this statement at 11:17pm Sunday: Numerous reports have been called in to this office and into local law enforcement concerning what appeared to be flashes of light in the sky over the Suffolk/Virginia Beach area. We are confident in saying that this was not lightning...and have been in contact with military and other government agencies to determine the cause.

hisz.rsoe.hu...

i have been browsing ATS since 2005 and i usually stick with reading the headline theories(911,economy,war,prophecies, etc. and ocassionally UFO). but with the wealth of information on ATS it is impossible to get to every thing so I had no idea that meteors have been falling in USA lately until I found this thread. I was trying to start a thread but i didnt know what the boom was and i was inside at the time so i saw nothing. went outside after the boom and saw nothing and no sirens so i ruled out bomb.

i live in chesapeake by the way. but thank you guys for the wealth of information posted. it is just strange that MSM is more worried about ms. spears than stuff like this cuz i had no knowledge about any other meteors until now. i guess things literally have to show up at your doorstep eh? ATS is truly the most informative news. threat #1 i guess, heh. local news still dont know what it is but i knew last night from yall here. good god!

Originally posted by mandroid
I have tried to find a radar and doppler run for that time period and can only get up till 9pm last night local time. Are there any weather junkies that know where the loops are from that time period. If they were seen in those loops we would get some idea of speed and height. if they are not captured they were too high or too small indicating their bark is worse than their bite.

I think it's highly unlikely that anything would have been picked up by such systems. Meteors are so brief, that unless you are extremely fortunate, the meteor would probably occur between sweeps, and I'm not sure anything would show up anyway depending on the system. Having said that, if I'm not mistaken, the recent Sudan event was picked up by a weather sat, and radar can sometimes pick up the ionization trails left by some meteors, but I think it requires a specialized radar system. I'd have to check up on that to be sure.

Usually these events are picked up by USAF/DOD sats that monitor for unauthorized nuclear weapons testing, but in recent years this information has been less forthcoming. I'd expect there to be a release though if this event continues to generate media interest.

Originally posted by 27jd
If anybody has a metal detector over there you may wanna go detect in the area, meteorites are worth some good $$....

Most falls are of non-metal type meteorites, and because most of these are quite fragile, they often explode high up in the atmosphere, showering a wide area with small rocks. This is what happened in the last 3 cases that we covered here on ATS were meteorites were recovered (see links I posted earlier), so you are better off getting some buddies with good eyesight together, and forming a line to methodically walk the suspected fall site.

In Sudan, since the terrain was desert, people could be spaced apart more, but with more rugged terrain, you'd want to be much closer together:

Source: A few meters planetoid will hit Earth

Originally posted by XD9611
there sure has been alot of meteoric displays over the past year or so, hope its not a precursor to a larger event

There will always be "blips" in activity, since the way asteroids "get kicked in our direction" is a fairly random process. That's just nature...

There is also always something big in the pipeline that will come our way sooner or later, but without decades/centuries of accurate data (even now we can not see the whole picture), we cant really say if there is a trend towards anything "bigger".

However there is evidence that we may from time to time encounter certain meteoroid streams that contain many large fragments, the Taurids for example.

On the other hand, while the orbits of some particles are quite dispersed, it is still likely that the Taurid stream has a narrow and dense core consisting of particles concentrated near the orbit of the stream's parent object, which is presumably related to Comet 2P/Encke. As the orbits of the material constituting this narrow, dense core have been subject to perturbations over thousands of years, it may be inferred that intense bombardment episodes have resulted at epochs when the material reaches Earth intersection. Dynamical calculations show that, as a Taurid-like orbit precesses, the northern daytime intersection occurs just a little (a few centuries) before the southern nighttime one, and the southern daytime one just before the northern nighttime one. That is, the four intersections occur in two pairs, and the influx of material to Earth is enhanced during epochs lasting a few centuries and spaced by a few millennia. The term "coherent catastrophism" has been used by astronomers at Armagh and elsewhere to describe the idea that there are strong patterns in the influx of extraterrestrial material to Earth.

There was this recently too:
Thousands of unseen dark comets may be on collision course with Earth, warn experts

Having said all that, we are still here today, and Earth has survived some fairly extreme impacts in the past. Big impacts are few and far between, and usually only cause local effects. Our atmosphere does a good job as stopping even fairly large asteroids up to about 5+ meters across.

Objects which are in the 10-50m size range (at the upper end of this range an asteroid might destroy/cripple a major city or a very small country), are thankfully very rare, and still larger ones than that (50-100m) which are capable of devastating a large part of a continent and having global consequences, are so rare, that there may only have been one or two in the last 10,000 years (take that figure as an educated guess, since I have not looked in to the frequency of past major impacts very deeply at all).

Basically, the asteroids that we have been seeing of late, are within the 5m range, between the size of a car and a small truck, and they have all disintegrated at many km altitude (probably 40km +), raining down small pebbles on the ground below...

No point in worrying about it, just hope that you get to see the next one and enjoy the show

If you want to help, write to your senator/MP urging him/her to increase funding for NEO research.

[edit on 30-3-2009 by C.H.U.D.]

i meant i think i know... didnt read last 10(about) posts(mobile browser[psp]). now its russian rockets? and less likely (though considering that this area is a dense and advanced military avenue its still intriguing) F-22 raptors were involved?

i meant i think i know... didnt read last 10(about) posts(mobile browser[psp]). now its russian rockets? and less likely (though considering that this area is a dense and advanced military avenue its still intriguing) F-22 raptors were involved?

i meant i think i know... didnt read last 10(about) posts(mobile browser[psp]). now its russian rockets? and less likely (though considering that this area is a dense and advanced military avenue its still intriguing) F-22 raptors were involved?

sorry psp make me look stupid... oh my god, i did not mean for that to post 3 times just pressed "X" 3 times on "post reply." please forgive, i rarely post and did not know my psp browser would send 3 posts. its an old PC habit of clicking rapidly on something when its taking too long to load. sorry. i bet this post itself makes me seem even dumber, heh.

The National Weather Service told WVEC-TV that the reports of the light and the bang were coming in from Maryland to North Carolina.

Source www.livescience.com...

This may have been mentioned before, but heres a link for one explanation
news.yahoo.com...

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Hi C.H.U.D in a bit of a hurry at the moment, hopefully I'll give a detailed answer later to your comments. It's has a lot of angles of investigation.
For now you might want to have a look at some of these.

Australian Institute of Geoscientists, it's a pdf, see page 21, "Geological consequences of large meteoric bodies approaching the Earth - the electrical factor"
aig.org.au...

This one is more to do with the plasma tail structure. But you'll see the connection.
adsabs.harvard.edu...

Also...
www.zhelem.com...

There's a lot to this and it involves rethinking a lot we thought we knew.
It also includes cometry behavior and cratering, tonnes of evidence, all that's needed is the will to listen.

Ok one more.
www.thunderbolts.info...

Cheers

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Two words. Sorcha Faal.

Don't even bother to take anything by Sorcha Faal with a grain of salt, because it's the funniest BS you've ever read on the net.

Originally posted by pa.Frost
it is just strange that MSM is more worried about ms. spears than stuff like this cuz i had no knowledge about any other meteors until now.

As far as the MSM is concerned, the public has a short attention span when it comes to things like this, so it's usually right at the end of the news, and then gone, if you get to hear of events like this at all (as your experience proves).

This probably wont hit the MSM at all unless some decent footage turns up, which is looking less and less likely now, but you never know...

It's a shame that most people are not informed that events like this are a fairly common occurrence, and it plays right into the hands of conspiracy theorists.

Personally I sometimes wonder if the real conspiracy is that astronomy is not on the school curriculum, but realistically, for most people an event like this is once in a life time, and most people seem to go their whole lives without ever really spending any time looking up, so it doesn't make any sense as far as governments are concerned to teach astronomy in schools.

Even if you could teach it, there is so much light pollution now, that seeing anything apart from the moon, the sun and Venus can sometimes be hard!

Rant over (sorry )



If you've (or anybody else reading this) never spent a night watching a meteor shower, you're in for a treat. A couple of well placed nights (10 hrs observing) could easily net you a few hundred meteors including a handful of fireballs, with a little bit of good luck.

Knowing when to watch it crucial, and some patience is not a bad thing either, since meteor showers can be fickle - but it goes both ways, one year may be a dud, and the next year an unexpected outburst or even a storm, although we are starting to predict storms with a fair bit of certainty now. So keep an eye on the Space Exploration forum for a heads up on the next meteor showers

The next major shower, the Lyrids is just 3 weeks away now, and the peak is on a moonless night which is always a bonus!

Other highlights of the year will be the Perseids in August (although with moonlight interference), the Orionids in October, and the Leonids in November. The Geminids in December is also usually a good bet for a reliable performance.

Originally posted by C.H.U.D.
Most falls are of non-metal type meteorites, and because most of these are quite fragile, they often explode high up in the atmosphere, showering a wide area with small rocks.

Yeah, guess that's true. The one that hit here in AZ long long ago was mostly metal, and there are alot of pieces recovered through detecting, usually for gold but happen on iron/nickel meteorites...

Originally posted by squiz
Hi C.H.U.D in a bit of a hurry at the moment, hopefully I'll give a detailed answer later to your comments. It's has a lot of angles of investigation.
For now you might want to have a look at some of these.

Thanks squiz I'll check them out. Also a bit busy right now so I'll probably reply a bit later.

One question for you though - if it's not contact between our atmosphere and the meteor making it appear to glow, then why do we not see meteors before they enter our atmosphere?

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Thanks C.H.U.D., very informative reply,

It would be nice to see a show!!!

In about 1965 or so I was sitting on my Uncles front porch in Orem, Utah with my Cousin. It was after dark and we had clear skies. A meteor that looked like a giant fireball came right over our heads. It lit the whole sky up like it was daytime and scared the crap out of us. It looked to be the size of a house to me and we heard a huge roar as it went directly over our heads.

The next day the Paper said it was a meteor and it struck in the desert north of the Great Salt Lake. They estimated it was the size of a car when it hit. The only mention I've found anywhere was on a UFO site about 8 years ago and someone in Eureka, Utah falsely claimed it was a UFO. I don't know if they found it or not.

I don't think there are more of these now. I think it is because of the Internet we think they are more common. Could be wrong though.

very true. i did witness a meteor shower once when i was younger in greensboro, NC. that is when i used to look up at the sky bymyself for a couple of hours here and there. about 5 VERY brief streaks, some were red some were green. no noise like this one though, heh. i think i will start to look at the skies once again cuz i even thought that shower in NC was once in a lifetime! too bad lived in tucson at the time of the phoenix lights. that was probably the last time i really stared at the sky, in vein it