Christ and Satan have both incarnated.

Originally posted by Marksman242
reply to post by Wehali

 

Not trying to make a fool out of you, but Christ will always be the same, he's the same today as he was 2000 years ago, read your bible, if you have one, it tells everything, not trying to be rude, just trying to make a point.

The bible has been translated thousands of times by humans, fallible
humans. Don't you think that somewhere along that time, some errors
might have slipped into the texts? I think the many contradictions are proof
of that, and it is really only logical.. man IS fallible, text-writing men are no
different than others.

Some of the bible is of course the truth, but some has fallen to error. The
sooner you accept this completely logical truth, the better you will learn to
use the bible as a powerful tool, rather than dogmatic for arguments.

The Bible is extremely important for humanity, but if you don't use it right,
if you don't accept that errors have been made, if you don't use your inner
guidance to sift the truth from the rubbish, then the Bible is of little use to
you personally.

Originally posted by Wehali

Originally posted by TheBranch
FINALLY. someone acknowledges that there is another christ to come. not jesus of nazareth, he has played his earthly roll already. the time has come for a leader, a king, a brother to stand with his people and denounce the corruption of the world and the wicked deeds of the current state of israel. oh and i hear he will have a pretty bitchin bow.

Exactly.. you may have no idea how right you actually are.

helloooo look at my name. im not too clueless about the future
i know my part i will have to play and i am prepared to give it my all.
so until i have a signal of sorts i will stay silent and learn all that i can so i can bring others to the light as well.

reply to post by mattifikation


My friend, you have never met Jesus Christ, you have never met Archangel
Michael, you have never met any angel or demon, why do you presume to
know exactly what they will say or do? Like I said before, there have been
many errors slipped into the Bible, it is better to go by firsthand experience,
than get stuck in the dogmas of a 2000 year old book.

If you don't want to believe me, fine! Then don't.. just don't tell me that I'm
being deceived. I know very well the difference between Light and Dark.

Like I said, out of firsthand experience. Believe me or not, I don't care, I'm
not writing this to convince nonbelievers, I'm writing this to help believers
better understand their own personal experiences.

reply to post by TheBranch


I didn't mean it like that, just wanted to say that you have a very solid
grasp of the truth. I agree with every word you said.

Yay
all these years of research may pay off one day.
i feel that the main fighting for the war will be in america. israel would be the best choice if it wasnt for the fact that when Gog and Magog invade israel Yahweh strikes them down permanently. so for the most part chaos will be all over the united states.
your thoughts?

reply to post by Wehali


Hmm. I'm merely suggesting that firsthand experience is a poor measure of truth if the possibility exists for those experiences to be manipulated and altered for the benefit of another.

You're right that I've never met Jesus, a demon, or an angel (That I know of, anyways.) Like I said, I'm not religious. I'm just pointing out to you that according to scripture, a person deceived by demons would experience exactly the sort of things that you have. In addition, they would be as convinced as you are that they were not deceived - until Christ showed them the truth, anyways.

And of course, you're free to believe scripture or not believe it... but I don't understand how you could believe in things described in scripture, but not teachings that come from the very same scripture. Far be it from an atheist such as myself to demand that you believe the Bible - I just felt that I'd share some of it with you so you might have another point of view to consider your situation from.

Since I've accomplished that, and you've made your decision about what you choose to believe, I think "my work is done" in this thread, so to speak. I'll probably keep reading though, so if you have other questions feel free to ask.

And of course, you're free to believe scripture or not believe it... but I don't understand how you could believe in things described in scripture, but not teachings that come from the very same scripture.

Because, the fact that the things I experienced, correlate with things described
in the Bible, is pure coincidence, at least from my point of view. First I have
experienced all these events, and only later I learned that some of them match
with what the Bible describes.

But because I know that the Bible contains errors due to all those translations,
I know that once the Bible told the truth completely, because it matches with
my own experiences, but not anymore.. because of the translations. You see
what I'm trying to say? At the beginning, the Bible probably matched with all
my experiences and findings, but not anymore, because it's been changed.

Obviously I will trust my own experiences over what a book has to say, of
which I know that it has been translated thousands of times, during which
time many errors were bound to slip in, this is a mathematical certainty.

There is NO WAY that a book can first orally travel the world, and then
be translated thousands of times, including by religous dictators, and then
not have any errors slip into it.. that is simply impossible.

But I believe that at the beginning, the Bible spoke the truth 100%.

[edit on (30/3/09) by Wehali]

Originally posted by CherryDuck
if your people who talk to you can tell you mundane things and always be right, send me the answer to this U2U, then i will believe you and spread your word.

What is my first name?

Cherry

P.S Let me guess, their busy??

Still haven't answered my question??

Originally posted by CherryDuck

Originally posted by CherryDuck
if your people who talk to you can tell you mundane things and always be right, send me the answer to this U2U, then i will believe you and spread your word.

What is my first name?

Cherry

P.S Let me guess, their busy??

Still haven't answered my question??

Let me guess, your name is Cheri...

lol not cheri, lol. Nice try

2ndy

Cherry

I didn't see that post.

Like I said, I'm not here to convince the nonbelievers, I'm only
offering my experiences to those who've had similar experiences,
so they know they are not alone, so they know they're not insane.

I've been asked to predict lottery numbers, I've been asked to
say what someone's early child hood experiences are, I've been
asked people's first names.. these things are not why we have
spirit guides. The only way you can be truly convinced, if you do
not believe yet, is by experiencing these events personally.

If you don't believe, but want to, then ask God to grant you an
experience that can change your mind. Anything else won't be
of any help to you.

[edit on (30/3/09) by Wehali]

I have had the unfortunate pleasure to be raised in a fundamentalist baptist church/school. Great battle any day, all gonna die, blah blah. I have had this crap forced down my throat for too long. God hates evil and want's us to be happy. I believe that God is not in control of this world, but he is there for us in prayer.

What if the whole bow without arrows things has somthing to do with a computer on the internet. People are fighting wars on the internet with words everyday..

reply to post by Wehali


So regarding my question in in the pages before. No answer yet?

I haven't read every page but let me tell you this:

I'm a Christian I'm 17, I've been going to church. I got interested in the fact that the world is going to end as you presented it, and so I questioned my Pastor about it. I asked him do you think the world will end in 2012...
Well he told me this:

Revelation 3:3 (NIV) Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.

I don't know how some one told you when Jesus will come, but it's crystal clear to me that you shouldn't be able to know when the second coming is going to arrive

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


Amen?

A-men

Originally posted by keiNii
I don't know how some one told you when Jesus will come, but it's crystal clear to me that you shouldn't be able to know when the second coming is going to arrive

Yeah, I don't think anyone knows exactly when these things are going to
happen. 2012 is just a rough date that hints on when the fight will manifest
fully into the physical world. But there are so many factors and events that
all wait to occur one after the other or simultaneously, that I don't think
anyone has knowledge of the entire, complete picture.

Though I hope to make my picture more complete in the very near future.

[edit on (31/3/09) by Wehali]

reply to post by Wehali


So I'm guessing thats a no then?

2nd line

lol seeing angels and talking to the devil. you guys are #ing nuts.