Atheist Conspiracy to Kill God in the Minds of Children?

Stop blaming everybody and everything else, quit panicking about everything like you're overly paranoid. Christianity makes you constantly be on the defencive. Everything becomes a threat to you in your eyes. You are in a state of protection all the time.

When you people are in that state of defence, you cant grow as humans. You cant be in growth and protection at the same time. When you are in that state, the stress hormones in your body shut of the bloodwessels in your body where growth happens, and increases blood to your arms.. this means no growth, you can only fight.

But if you're in such a state of fear as a christian, then how can you expect to grow? Stop fighting and grow, for the sake of humanity.. for the sake of yourself. Maybe by removing christianity from your life you will be free from the fear you're always in.

reply to post by B.A.C.


Would you say its ok for movies/books that try to plant the seed of god in childrens minds?
Would that constitute a conspiracy against innocent atheist children?

Daniem,

Where did this come from? I'm not scared of this or anything else. If you read the thread, I'm pretty sure my kids have seen this movie, it doesn't concern me at all. My kids will make their own choices when they are ready. If you knew my kids, you'd know they'll get along just fine.

I just posted this for discussion, that's all, obviously there are some people that were concerned with this, they even protested about it apparently.

Originally posted by Azador
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Would you say its ok for movies/books that try to plant the seed of god in childrens minds?
Would that constitute a conspiracy against innocent atheist children?

If they stated they wanted to "undermine the basis of Atheism" of course this would constitute a conspiracy for sure. It wouldn't be as interesting though, would it?

If this movie is trying to kill God(s), I hope it succeeds.

For far too long, peoples minds have been enslaved by "holy men" wearing funny hats, claiming to represent gods, and telling us that if we don't listen to them, we're all going to hell.

Time for people to wake up. I'm sorry if it shatters your fragile world view to hear somebody tell it to you like it is: There are no gods, there is no afterlife, there is no soul.

What we have now is all there is, and every time a person needlessly dies, that is one less unique, beautiful, person gone FOREVER. So wake up, people, and take life just a little more seriously, because once you or a loved one dies, they are gone forever.

There is no heaven, there is no hell, there are no gods. Wake up!

I think christian groups conspiring to kill this movie should be held accountable. It was a delightful movie and now I have to go buy the book to find out what happens.

I read all three books and they were AMAZING.

That's all i have to say because when it comes to books that's all that matters: they're either good or bad.

Now, about the movie, if you're worried that it will brainwash your kids, just don't take your kids to see it. If your kids are old enough to see it without your permision, than they are old enough to make their own decisions regarding their faith too, and if you raised them properly they shouldn't fall so easily victim to any type of propaganda.

What was I saying? Ah yeah, GREAT books.

Originally posted by B.A.C.
Nope just the previews. I didn't even know there was a controversy about this. I'm downloading it right now.

Good movie. I know few people who actually worked on the FX part...

They did not like the fact that they would be paid less because religious community decided that they should not be seen by children.

Here is yet another "abomination" according to the Christian censoring machine:

Sunshine



Beautiful Sci-Fi movie, too bad that religious zealots killed it...

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Disclaimer: I'm a theist but not of the Abrahamic faiths. I have minor biblical scholar and scriptural skills. Also I am not a scientific/legal or medical expert in any field. Beware of my Contagious Memes! & watch out that you don't get cut on my Occams razor.All of this is my personal conjecture and should not be considered the absolute or most definitive state of things as they really are. Use this information at your own risk! I accept no liability if your ideology comes crashing down around you with accompanying consequences!

Explanation: Conspiracy to undermine certain Abrahamic faiths? Sure and why not? Seems pretty valid to me. Personally I question the effectiveness of his use of Fiction as opposed to Fact, but then again the Bible and YHVH are what he is ribbing, and they both seem to me to also fall into the Fictional camp and yet look how easily whole cultures have taken that onboard uncritically! So whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

Personal Disclosure: I recommend you go get your own god....AS this one [Achlys] is MINE!!!

Well hear me out first please...We start off our childrens life by telling them that theres a Santa Claus an Easter Bunny & a Tooth Fairy, our children have faith in us so much so that they have the faith to believe in all of the afformentioned fictional characters. So when we finally tell our children that all the above characters are not real they are crushed (I know I was) Then we ask them to believe in an invisible man in the sky & by that time they are already questioning their faith in us & our honesty(I came right out & asked my parents why they lied to me about other things & why I should believe in God) So whatever the Atheist think they are doing, has already been done, by us.

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I love FX, I'm a Tech nut so of course I love CGI and other cool stuff.

As you are aware 5th I am against Censorship no matter what is being censored. Parents are perfectly capable of censoring what their kids watch, it's not up to protesters or society IMO.

That trailer was cool too I've seen that movie, I think they retitled it in Canada, I can't remember the name.

Also, I believe they will be showing the rest of "The Golden Compass" trilogy in Canada, it hasn't been censored here, that I am aware.



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"Kill God in the minds of children" is pretty much the worst way you could put it lol...

If a parent tells their children the truth about Santa Claus, are they "Killing (oh my!) Santa in the mind of a child"?

That makes it sound sinister, when really it's just about knowing the truth .

What truth? That God doesn't exist? That isn't a truth, it's a belief. Same as the belief God does exist. Both beliefs are true to the people who believe them.

As far as the title of the thread goes, it's what the poster on snopes said when they reported the story, I just reiterated that with a question mark.

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I understand you weren't the one to invent the phrase, I'm just saying that if you put it that way, of course it's going to sound evil...
I can't even think of a worse way to put it.

"Killing God in the minds of children" lol...
How evil he must be!

Excuse me while I kill pink unicorns in the minds of the mentally insane.
Damn, you can make anything sound terrible when using the right (or wrong) words .

Yup, I agree you can make things sound evil with words. You can also incite discussion with words. Works both ways.

Originally posted by B.A.C.
Any thoughts on this? Obviously as a Christian I don't support this, but maybe some Atheists do? I'm curious...

I really wish you would stop assuming all atheists want to eliminate or get rid of religion. Frankly, I couldnt give two poo's about what you want to believe in....its not my business, ande I wouldnt push my beliefs on my kids, they can do or believe in what they want.

It just sounds so ignorant making assumptions

B.A.C., what would happen if your children did not believe in God?

What would happen if the movie did indeed eliminate God from the minds of the children who saw it?

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Honestly, what is the big deal? Christians and the like make movies espousing their veiws all the time. Left Behind, being the first one to springs to mind. Which one seems to have more of a hard-core indoctrination thing going for it? My opinions is, if you don't like the movie, don't watch it. Pretty simple actually.

Chrono

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
I really wish you would stop assuming all atheists want to eliminate or get rid of religion.

He said some. Not all.

...but maybe some Atheists...

And, well, that is the truth. There are some atheists who have admitted to wanting to eliminate religion. lol

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Originally posted by OhZone
B.A.C., what would happen if your children did not believe in God?

What would happen if the movie did indeed eliminate God from the minds of the children who saw it?

I'm not sure what would happen. I do know that children are vulnerable and naive and it isn't really fair for any group to try to sway their beliefs either way. I think it should be a choice and a choice that isn't made for them.