Crazy Rep. Michele Bachmann Calls for Armed Revolution

"Is it appropriate for a member of Congress to speak in any context about being armed for revolution?"

Crazy Rep. Michele Bachmann Calls for Armed Revolution
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It's obviously just rhetoric from overly-excited far-right lawmakers. It's no doubt intended to fire up the activists (and donors) who help Republicans succeed.

But when Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) casually refers to elected Democratic officials as the "enemy," and nonchalantly refers to keeping her supporters "armed and dangerous," it's probably a good time to remind Republican lawmakers to turn the temperature a bit. (via the University of Minnesota and the Dump Bachmann blog.)

Bachmann appeared over the weekend on the First Team radio show with John Hinderaker and Brian Ward, speaking about the horrible stuff that the Democrats are doing: "I'm a foreign correspondent on enemy lines and I try to let everyone back here in Minnesota know exactly the nefarious activities that are taking place in Washington."

Bachmann also spoke out against the cap-and-trade proposals currently making their way through Washington, and how she'll be distributing information against it at an upcoming event in the district. "I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax, because we need to fight back," said Bachmann. "Thomas Jefferson told us, having a revolution every now and then is a good thing. And the people -- we the people -- are going to have to fight back hard if we're not going to lose our country."

On the one hand, it seems clear that Bachmann was speaking figuratively. On the other hand, is it appropriate for a member of Congress to speak in any context about being armed for revolution?

No, probably not. But this seems to fit in with a larger trend. We have one GOP lawmaker saying the party should emulate the insurgency tactics of the Taliban. We have another arguing the party should position itself as "freedom fighters" taking on the "slide toward socialism."

And now Bachmann is throwing fuel on the fire of right-wing rage.

Obviously, Bachmann and other unhinged conservatives have the right to say what they please. But at a minimum, I think it's fair to describe this kind of talk from elected leaders in positions of authority as irresponsible.

Now is this Congresswoman crazy or is she right?

Seems to me she might be on to something...

Being as she's a Representitive of the people she should be looking out for their Life, Liberty, and pursuit of Happiness...

...Not the interests of the Government...who are supposed to be our employees...

Seems our Founding Father lived by this Credio...
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The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive.

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.

For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security.

We may consider each generation as a distinct nation, with a right, by the will of its majority, to bind themselves, but none to bind the succeeding generation, more than the inhabitants of another country.

When a man assumes a public trust he should consider himself a public property.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.

Never spend your money before you have earned it.

Nothing is unchangeable but the inherent and unalienable rights of man.

Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence.

That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.

If the present Congress errs in too much talking, how can it be otherwise in a body to which the people send one hundred and fifty lawyers, whose trade it is to question everything, yield nothing, and talk by the hour?

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

Every generation needs a new revolution.

I own that I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.

I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.

Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories.

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto.
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Thomas Jefferson

Am I way off base here or what?

[edit on 3/27/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Naw, you are completely on basis. I mean she doesn't exactly have a lot of credibility because she has said some pretty asinine things in the past, but I think she is on to something for the most part.

I think it is funny when she said she likes to keep her citizens "armed and dangerous" that was great.

On a side note she is pretty cute.

I thought it was the duty of citizens to question their government...

...And when ignored and scorned it was our duty to remove and replace said Government with one that does and will act on our wishes...

The MSM calling her crazy and such is truely a disservice to all Citizens...

Have we all been so brainwashed by Public Education, MSM and Govenment that we know not what generations of our bloodlines have fought for?

Government has no right under the Bill of Rights or Constitution to police the world tarnishing our reputation and squandering our hard earned capitol.

Government has no right to tell us who, what, where, when or why, we may or maynot do anything...except in the matters of intruding apon the Life, Liberty and Happiness of our fellow citizen.

Government was never ment to be a full time job...where lawyer gather for hours on end, litigating, inventing and passing laws, that only serve the purpose of enriching their powers.

Government has no right to install a independent private bank to issue currency at interest and then tax us on said interest.

Feel free to join in here...

Govenment was never...

[edit on 3/27/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Not sure what exactly she's promoting but from what I can tell, she seems courageous and sincere and well intending. I think that's great.

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First Amendment Rights...

Second Amendment Rights...

Taxation without representation...

Stimulus...Bailouts...

I think there's more in the linking articles...



[edit on 3/27/2009 by Hx3_1963]

okay....when she said "armed and dangerous" she was referring to the tax codes. In the article they said (if you noticed) "IT SEEMS" as if she was figurative. The way I read it, it seemed as if she wasnt.
On that note, I can see how people could feel that she seemed figurative about it because they fear what would happen if the American people actually did get up and do those things. I think in the end though, the message was clear, no matter which way you look at it..THE GOVT IS F$CKING US AND WE CANT STAND BY AND LET THEM DO IT>
Thats just my take on it though, and I am sure I will get blasted for it, but it seems pretty cut and dry to me. Make of it what you want, but things are pretty bad right now, and if we cant fight for those things that we hold dearest to our hearts, then we areno better then the people screwing us over.

She is on to something. I don't know if she really knows what she is on to though.

The answers to the lies lay within the Federal Reserve.

She was using those words figuratively. She was also on GB radio show today...and said "call to arms."

And what she meant by that is that people need to wake up to what is happening...and to get involved.

I don't know much about her past...i have no idea really who she is...but she is on to something...

Ron Paul knows what that something is....

reply to post by Common Good
The Fallout

On March 23, the Common Sense blog, linking to U.S. laws on treason, sedition, and subversive activities suggested that Rep. Bachmann’s incendiary rhetoric could “incite enough crazies that they may pose a serious threat” to the President of the United States and that the Secret Service might take a penetrating look at the congresswoman from Minnesota.

Common Sense
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Here here. The United States sedition law is crystal clear, and has been since the days of our founding fathers:

www4.law.cornell.edu...

I suggest we start a petition to have this stunningly ignorant woman jailed. She's getting crazier and crazier as the time goes by. Pretty soon, she's liable to incite enough crazies that they may pose a serious threat to the POTUS.

Is the Secret Service taking notice?

Now what is this???

Since when is the First Amendment and a Citizens Duty to question his Government...treason, sedition, and subversive activities???

This is what we have to look forward to?

I fear we are headed to a bad place and a Ill Wind is about to blow...

(Flag & Star if you think somethings wrong about all this...)

[edit on 3/27/2009 by Hx3_1963]

I'm liking what ever she is on too. It might have been "figuratively" spoken, but it sounds literal to me. This gives me hope actually, it actually gives me a thought that America and the principles outlined in the Deceleration of Independence will not be lost and will hold true.

There is something going on, so far Jim DeMint, Ron Paul, and now Michele Bachmann, have all expressed calls to action, to go along with the TJ quotes up above here are some from George Washington:

A slender acquaintance with the world must convince every man that actions, not words, are the true criterion of the attachment of friends.

Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.

Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company.

Bad seed is a robbery of the worst kind: for your pocket-book not only suffers by it, but your preparations are lost and a season passes away unimproved.

Experience teaches us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession.

Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known, that we are at all times ready for War.

All the above - George Washington

I tell ya the guys that started this country were pretty damn smart.

Edit to add -

There is something really wrong about this, if they try to do anything about it I fear the backlash. I think it is a double standard and hypocritical to the fullest extent for them to be making the comments that they are making, they can blow off death threats to AIG employee's and provoke those people, but when a person in government actually states that it is time to stand up for our liberty then it is a crime?

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reply to post by Hastobemoretolife

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

The world would be a better place if this man was back.

George Washington was a great man.

Where is our George Washington now?

Where is the leader of freedom and opportunity?

Ron Paul is the closest thing we have to a George Washington.

I listened to GB on the radio today asking where or George Washington was.

He said we didn't have one.

I think RP is the closest thing we have to it.

reply to post by Hx3_1963

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"Now what is this??? "

People are getting scared. Thats all this is, and I believe that they have a right to be scared, hell everyone in the United States should be scared in one way or another of the things to come. That doesnt mean however that we should just lay down our arms and hug the trees while our Govt. steps all over our liberties and ethics. Liberals, Conservatives, Independants, we are all the same, we bleed the same, and we are effected the same.
I am an Independant, and I could really give a damn about the whole BS left-Right crap, but what I do care about are my rights, and when someone starts trying to take those away from me, that draws the line for me.
Figuratively or not, what she said struck meaning into anyone who read it.
You can take what she said either way you want, but the message is pretty damned clear. We cant let them do the things that they are doing to us without fighting back. If I am going to get gang-raped, Im going to take out as much of them F$ckers as I can in the process. Just the way I see it.
Others may go more quietly, but Im not one of those people.

She doesn't care about TPTB or the Federal Reserve; just the Democrats. She even said that Republicans are the only true Americans out there. So basically, go from an unofficial one party system to an official one party system. Created by killing and detaining all dissidents if this were done. She stood by Bush because of partisan lines. Not much different.

Great, now we can be a far-right theocracy.

The first time i ever heard or seen this congresswoman was last week or the week before when she was questioning the CEO of AIG

If this lady is crazy she sure did ask alot of the right questions and demanded answers from Liddy. Then last week i was equally impressed with her when Giethner and Bernanke came before the same committee and she grilled them with no remorse.

She seems like one of the few good "guys" in washington at the moment.

Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
On a side note she is pretty cute.

I have to agree there. If only she was a few years younger or i was a few years older and she was single i think I'd be moving to her district

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by Hastobemoretolife

 

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

The world would be a better place if this man was back.

George Washington was a great man.

Where is our George Washington now?

Where is the leader of freedom and opportunity?

Ron Paul is the closest thing we have to a George Washington.

I listened to GB on the radio today asking where or George Washington was.

He said we didn't have one.

I think RP is the closest thing we have to it.

Well I'm a step-descendant of Washington if that means anything

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You did know that there are 2 separate legislations to audit the federal reserve to show transparency?

One if a by a Democrat in the senate...Bernie Sanders I believe.

The other is Republican Ron Paul in the house...who has at last check..44 sponsors.

This isn't about reps and dems.

Transparency of the federal reserve is extremely important to the people of this country.

reply to post by Common Good

www.politico.com...
dumpbachmann.blogspot.com...

Also on March 23, Glenn Thrush, in a post titled “Bachmann urges ‘armed’ revolt over climate plan, reported in Politico that “Rep. Michele Bachmann, the firebrand Minnesota conservative Republican, may have gone a bit over the rhetorical line last weekend when attacking the Obama administration’s cap-and-trade proposal.”

As might be expected Bachmann’s remarks prompted outrage on Internet sites.

“Anna,” posting at Dump Bachmann on March 23 at 7:35 p.m., wrote:

“Other famous terrorist leaders have been known to call their terrorist cells to action through just such code speak and public broadcasts.

“A member of our own Congress is making treasonous speeches … this usually happens in banana republics, not the United States. We have a Democratic process, and she’s effectively calling for an overthrow and dictatorship.

“We have elected representation … these are not ‘the enemies’; they are the people we have chosen (including her) to represent us, elected by a democratic process.”

“OldLeatherneck,” posting on the same site on March 23 at 7:36 p.m., added:

“It is time for progressives to do more than just contact their local elected officials and complain. It is time to initiate formal complaints with the DOJ and FBI, as well as let the Republicans know what we feel about a representative of their party inciting violence and armed insurrection.”

The poster then goes on to provides contact information for the U.S. Attorney for Minnesota, the FBI’s Minneapolis field office, House Minority Leader John Boehner, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, the Republican Party of Minnesota, and the Republican National Committee.

I wish these people could hear themselfs through my ears...

They're disregarding the First Amendment, the right to due process...

Judge, Jury and Executioner?

Where did these people come from???

It appears they're not Americans...and if so, they've never read The Bill of Rights or Constitution...or don't understand English...or are all operatives of the NWO...

reply to post by David9176


You see David, thats just it. LEFT-RIGHT.
Its [SNIP] KILLING US>why dont people see that?
I have family members who are both Dems and Repubs, and watching them fight each other over stupid bs really upsets me when all they are doing is killing each other and not focusing on thebigger picture.
Its really hard to just sit back and judge people on who they are and what they do, not what team they play for.
So if people could just come together on this, it would be great, but I dont see that happening at all in any of our futures' unless we get rid of both parties and go to a truely one party system, for the people, and by the people. Until then, I see people fighting each other till the end of time over stuff they have no control over.


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reply to post by Darky6K


Welcome to my ignore list buddy.


This is not about partisan politics this is about the government moving at beak neck speed taking away our rights and freedom. It is both the left and the right. We are currently being tag-teamed by them, one side gets voted in and they do their damage, the other side gets voted in and they do their damage.

The worst thing about it is that nobody that plays partisan politics understands that you are NOT getting what you think you are getting.You are getting an over bearing government that wants to control every aspect of your life. And you're being led like sheep to the slaughter.

I have no time to deal with people that are going to continue to play partisan politics. I will not listen to a view point that tells me to "deal with it we won". Not going to happen. You have your right to free speech but that doesn't mean I have to read it. This is supposed to be a Constitutional Republic which means I don't have to be subjected to be ruled by 51% of the people. That is why the Constitution gives the fed limited power and the states more power than them as long as it doesn't overstep the bounds of the Constitution, and further more there was already one war fought over states rights.

|rant

I'll add this again in case anybody missed it. How is it Okay for the government to not care about death threats to employee's of a company that we 80% own and to further demonize the executives of companies and play upon that and incite people to the point of possible violence, but when a representative is telling us it is time to stand up, people get all crazy and say that isn't right, and call her all kinds of names.

They're all hypocrites.

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reply to post by David9176
Well considering the Fed is Illegal to begin with, why do we need a HR for anything?

They could give a Rats Hat less what we have to say...and are going to do whatever they want...

Greenberg, Paulson & Helicopter Ben have pretty much said as much..

I say we get Clint Eastwood, Chuck Norris, John Cena and a few others and take care of business!!!

reply to post by Hx3_1963


lol. When I read that, the first thing that went through my head was
"they (dems)are scared to death".
I dont think that they are paying asmuch attentino to the issues as they should because they are already being led by a blind eye. You cant really expect them to do anything right now to fix this situation because they are just following their leaders 'lead'. The republicans right now on the other hand, are the ones thatare going after these people straight rogue style.
When just last year, it was the Dems attacking the repubs, its now the repubs attacking the libs. This process never ends. We needto get rid of both parties in order to bring the people together.


EDIT- Why isnt this thread getting more love? weird. I thought for sure the libs would be all over this by now.



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