Navy Scientists Zip Lips on Cold Fusion Tests

The Navy probably stole it from these guys:

EMC2 Fusion

They were funded by the Navy until around 2007 right after they had a major breakthrough - coincidence? I think not. These guys are the real-deal, led by the late Dr. Robert Bussard.

Bussard passed away around 2007 if I recall. "Polywell Fusion" is the design principal. I highly recommend reading the whitepaper despite its length and complexity.

Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
This hit the boards just a couple of days ago.
Also Naval related.
Different Scientist... Something is up.

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

My guess is that they ARE going to release technology in an attempt to regain their prominance on the world's economic stage.
Just a hunch though.



[edit on 27-3-2009 by Jay-in-AR]

If any of this is correct then the world would be about to make a rapid change, economies/ companies would disappear overnight, entire continents would be thrown into the trash. Infact I think the transition stage would be absolutely devistating.

Originally posted by spitefulgod

If any of this is correct then the world would be about to make a rapid change, economies/ companies would disappear overnight, entire continents would be thrown into the trash. Infact I think the transition stage would be absolutely devistating.

Nah...they would first need to trash the entire global economy for that to be possible.
...
Wait a minute...

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Yeah, they would have to keep process patents closely guarded so they could monopolize the marketing of the new technology.
They couldn't flood the market at once. But they could make it be known that this was going to happen at "X date" down the road.

We would have to evolve pretty quick and old interests would have to change.
If we didn't, we'd REALLY see a crash.


Two edits to clarify myself.
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Question I was under the impression that Deuterium and Tritium are both very rare and hard to come by. That it takes significant energy to make them so would this who idea of cold fusion using these two forms of hydrogen sort of be misleading, as a major source of world energy?

I may be wrong on all accounts just wondering.

reply to post by ACEMANN
Polywell is a different process from the SPAWAR article, but I don't doubt it will be co-opted at the right time (Phase 1 competion).

The current studies are of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR) processes with low temp/pressure vessels with palladium cathodes that create free neutrons and neutrinos and heat - evidence of fusion.

An article has been published in "Naturwissenschaften," a scientific peer-reviewed journal (Link: www.newenergytimes.com... and the process described in a talk before the American Chemical Society. The "cat" is out of the bag.

jw


[edit on 27-3-2009 by jdub297]

That article seemed to be more about Iron Man and Marvel Comics, than the scientists or the science behind cold fusion. I'm not really sure why the article was written, because it didn't inform anything that any person paying attention didn't already know.

Of course, scientists are working on cold fusion in private. What scientist alive doesn't pursue the Nobel Prize at some point?

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Yeah, as I was saying, considering it was the second in a week coming out of the Naval organizations, it appears the Government is letting loose of something...
Officially.

More than likely it will be done slowly.

This is good news.

god find. s and f
second line.

Originally posted by Desolate Cancer

Question I was under the impression that Deuterium and Tritium are both very rare and hard to come by. That it takes significant energy to make them so would this who idea of cold fusion using these two forms of hydrogen sort of be misleading, as a major source of world energy?

I may be wrong on all accounts just wondering.

Excellent question!

Tritium is available from dismantled nuclear warheads and is a product of nuclear fission reactors. Spent rods and water are everywhere, since we have no central storage facilities. There are 2 facilities that have been devoted to tritium production. Others can be developed at commercial reactors.

Deuterium is abuntant in seawater and there are several methods of extraction. Water in which the hydrogen is deuterium is called "heavy water." It is also a by-product from our reactors, and heavy water is used as a neutron moderator.

I don't really blame them for keeping it a bit secretive. Pons and Fleischmann should have done the same. But their excitement got the best of them and they couldn't wait to hold a press conference.

With a controversial claim such as this, it is probably best to run numerous tests and publish papers proving your claim before getting everyone's hopes up.

God, I love the Navy. There are some good guys in the Military Industrial Complex, you know. We complain about all of the resources taken up and the secrecy, but you never know. They may sweep in and save all of our behinds when we least expect it.

Edited for typo due to cat.

[edit on 28-3-2009 by AmethystSD]

Gerald Celente made a reference to something that would have to appear that would be on the level of fire or the wheel as far as inventions go in order to save our economy. Maybe this is it. Is this what they will use to keep the game going. To keep the masses placated?

reply to post by czacza1

Thanks for the recognition. Have you seen the article. Use the link and see it. The pics and explanations are great. Makes you think we're on the verge of something really nice for a change.

jw

reply to post by ludaChris

could be just the thing to keep players in the game. mrjenka posted a similar prediction a month or so ago, but never delivered with info/links.

jw

cold fusion is the holy grail of econimical power for soo long.(even more than zero point energy). the fossile fule intrests will "never" let the "ppl" decide that clean energy is the way to go. god we can't let the little ppl(consumers) realize that there is a low cost/clean way to burn fuel.

reply to post by HunkaHunka


if your American then you should understand the fact that the dollar as a currency needs the oil in Arabia

without the oil the dollar is worthless

google petrodollar

Originally posted by Dr UAE
reply to post by HunkaHunka

 

without the oil the dollar is worthless

Not anymore.

1. The dollar has been a "fiat currency" for decades.

2. There is such a high volume of trade of other commodities in dollars that oil makes little difference. Several oil producers already trade in other currencies.

3. As long as there are internal combustion engines, there will be demand for Arabian peninsula oil, traded in dollars.

4. Many nations, and the UN/IMF are calling for "Special Drawing Rights" to be the new fiat currency. The April meeting of the G20 will see this seriously discussed, if not adopted.
Link:www.breitbart.com...

5. As a last resort, the U.S. will project military force to exert its will.

Thus, "Petrodollars" are fungible and therefore, disposable.

Deny ignorance.



jw

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Originally posted by Dorfl
Solar energy can be used in a small scale. You wouldn't need the infrastructure and you would not be dependant of a central distributor for your energy. There would be less control...and we wouldn't want that would we?

Thats why cold fusion will succeed. It can lift the US out of the depression and the people would still be hooked on the grid. And the best thing is it will be sold to us as 'green' energy. So there is no longer a need to develop other alternative energysources.

small scale energy is much more expensive than regional power plants using a smart grid. nobody stops you from developing cold fusion and going public (if you have the necessary knowledge).

solar cells have been available for decades yet how many households use them to power anything more than garden lights? if you have a creek in your back yard you could build a micro hydro plant yet how many people have done it? you can quickly set up a savonius wind turbine for a few grand to get most power you need for a normal household. and of course there's the cheapest one of all - solar thermal which would heat most of your water in temperate climate and costs less than 5 grand to set up. plus you get state and federal tax cuts for all these. yet how many house holds have solar thermal?

nobody seriously worries that once cold fusion will be available people will have cars or houses powered by their own cold fusion cell and stop buying utilities from the grid. what WILL happen however is that the US will be able to start exporting all its oil and make money instead of importing trillions of dollars worth each year. and a cold fusion industry will quickly start up to safely harvest it in the most efficient way.

so overall if cold fusion is indeed possible it will be made public or at least used in the military to make them independent of oil and we'll find out about it in less than 10 years from discovery or military channel!

Originally posted by DarkSecret
... so overall if cold fusion is indeed possible it will be made public or at least used in the military to make them independent of oil and we'll find out about it in less than 10 years from discovery or military channel!

I know that battlefield access to fuel/power is of primary concern for military planners, so I'm not surprised that they're working hard on the concept.

I expect that once economic feasibility is established, contracting will begin for large-scale production for DoD, with commercial apps soon to follow.

Isn't that the way it usually works?

jw