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U.N. 'Climate Change' Plan Would Likely Shift Trillions to Form New World Economy

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posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 09:05 AM
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U.N. 'Climate Change' Plan Would Likely Shift Trillions to Form New World Economy


www.foxnews.com

A United Nations document on "climate change" that will be distributed to a major environmental conclave next week envisions a huge reordering of the world economy, likely involving trillions of dollars in wealth transfer, millions of job losses and gains, new taxes, industrial relocations, new tariffs and subsidies, and complicated payments for greenhouse gas abatement schemes and carbon taxes — all under the supervision of the world body.
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posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 09:05 AM
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[T]he consequences of their negotiations, if enacted, would be nothing short of world-changing. .... The note adds only that industrial relocation "would involve negative consequences for the implementing country, which loses employment and investment."


Read the document yourself here.
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[edit on 27-3-2009 by GuyverUnit I]



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 09:31 AM
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U.N. 'Climate Change' Plan Would Likely Shift Trillions to Form New World Economy.

Translation: Another taxation on middle class Americans along with the imposition of increased costs of energy and food to poorer Americans.

The man made 'Global Warming' theory is obviously false by the fact that the globalist powers are trying to rename it as 'Climate Change' (because climate never changed for billions of years until man showed up right) for the inconvenient truth that the earth isn't warming steadily or at all.

Of course the solution is taxation. I bet the globalist that are behind this agenda already have their investments set up in the "green" technology industries and are salivating for the day when the taxation becomes effective and wealth is re-distributed their way.



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by wutone
U.N. 'Climate Change' Plan Would Likely Shift Trillions to Form New World Economy.

Translation: Another taxation on middle class Americans along with the imposition of increased costs of energy and food to poorer Americans.


There's more to this world than middle class Americans..


We in the EU, Australians, Canadians and Japanese will have to pay the same price.. EU citizens won't complain about it as much though seeing as we have had these green policies in place for the past decade.. and are already paying for them.

This kind of system will have to be implemented at some stage and the near future is probably the best time.. As much as I hate the fact that this is all based on lies, I can see that these lies are necessary to get past the dirty industry boss's that are there and convince people that the system need to be changed instead of continuing with rising energy commodity prices that will only serve to completely cripple the global economy again in the near future.



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 10:26 AM
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Well I hope that the US doesnt sign this environmental treaty. That is ridiculous. I hope every other country does sign it though, because then maybe we can become price competitive manufacturers again.

But you know our stupid Congress they will probably be all over that and sign up first. They wouldnt want to slow down the financial destruction of our country and the world.

I am all for doing some things for the environment. But, it is like every thing else in life, you have to do it in moderation. We dont need a world based on environmental socialism.



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 10:42 AM
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A volcano in one eruption will produce more carbon than all humans in 10,000 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who is gonna Tax the Volcano!?


We must fight this, we MUST!



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 12:24 PM
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Global warming and climate change are real. they are natural and humans HAVE effected them, and everyone knows it is at least partially true.

the government is just doing what they do best. they take something, and twist it to work for them. all they want is to keep people scared and paying them money. it has nothing to do with our best interests, they just want money and power.

It is such a sad predictable world.
People need to wake up and open their eyes.



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by jassie51289
Global warming and climate change are real. they are natural and humans HAVE effected them, and everyone knows it is at least partially true.

the government is just doing what they do best. they take something, and twist it to work for them. all they want is to keep people scared and paying them money. it has nothing to do with our best interests, they just want money and power.

It is such a sad predictable world.
People need to wake up and open their eyes.


Actually, according to the father of modern day climatology, you do more damage by spitting on the ground, than by your carbon footprint. Everyone KNOWS the propaganda has been stated that we have caused climate change, but it's hardly true. See excerpt. Here
or Here
Thanks for reading
..Ex

Edit to include additional sources.

[edit on 3/27/2009 by v3_exceed]



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 02:31 PM
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In the same bland manner, the note informs negotiators without going into details that cap-and-trade schemes "may induce some industrial relocation" to "less regulated host countries."
Source: www.foxnews.com...

Translated to everyday language: "If you do this, you will probably lose your job to some sweatshop in China making the stuff you can no longer afford to buy."

Detroit has already seen a mass migration of jobs due in large part to NAFTA (and no small part to taxation of companies here). It's no secret that the vast majority of cars are now manufactured either by overseas companies (Mercedes, Toyota, Volvo, Hyundai) operating in the US, or by overseas factories. Detroit was built on the auto industry, so a large numner of those jobs going overseas (or to overseas companies) came from Detroit.

The unemployment rate in the city of Detroit hit 22.2% during January, the highest rate in 26 years.
Source: www.freep.com...

And it's more than just numbers:

Then there's the vast Detroit of decaying neighborhoods, with weedy, trash-strewn lots and vacant, burned-out houses. Some areas, even close to downtown, have a rural look because so many lots are now empty.
Source: www.msnbc.msn.com...

So in order to help us have a better society, the government is now going to add even more useless regulation and taxation (without any proposed use for the new taxes) to areas that are already devastated by the faltering economy. Somehow, we are supposed to believe that this will make life better for us? It's like eating some cyanide and getting deathly sick from it, then deciding the best way to get better is to eat more cyanide.

Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm gonna get told that this isn't about jobs or the economy; it's about the climate! OK, fine. You can enjoy your views of the majestic scenery through crystal clear air while you're shivering in the cold with nothing to eat because you can't find a job. I would prefer to have food and heat during the cold of winter so I could survive to look at that scenery (especially since Cap & Trade is going to do absolutely nothing for it), but, hey, I'm kinda weird that way.

TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 03:36 PM
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It doesn't much matter any more what is real and what isn't. Everything is spun and massaged and nuanced to siphon off power and money. I don't know who precisely the recipients are in this case but it's about power and money. In the meantime look at this


In an influential but highly controversial paper called "Key Elements of a Global Deal on Climate Change," British economist Nicholas Lord Stern, formerly a high British Treasury official, has declared that industrial economies would need to cut their per capita carbon dioxide emissions by "at least 80% by 2050," while the biggest economies, like the U.S.'s, would have to make cuts of 90 percent. Stern also calls for "immediate and binding" reduction targets for developed nations of 20 percent to 40 percent by 2020. To meet Stern's 2050 goals, he says, among other things, "most of the world's electricity production will need to have been decarbonized."


This is from the foxnews article referenced already and refers to a paper available in a link in that article FOXnews article

look at these numbers. industrial economies would have to reduce by 80% but the US would have to cut emissions by 90% by 2050. Think about that for a minute. I know it sounds like a long time, but it's not. Even if completely green technology was available tomorrow, most existing companies wouldn't have the money to replace all their equipment in that short a time. What about simply heating our homes and businesses as well as the electricity we rely upon for everything we do? We ordinary people certainly don't have the money to replace our furnaces and all our tools and equipment in that amount of time, even if it were already available. We can't even switch from analog to digit TV without a huge hassle. Even growing food would become extremely difficult if we can't use existing equipment. Of course the writers of this bill don't expect anybody to be able to do this, so people and businesses will be fined, and that's they (don't know who they are) get the power and money.

but really folks, putting aside the issue of whether climate change is caused by man, this resolution strikes me as insane.



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 03:49 PM
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I've been saying this ever since I first joined ATS.

It's a gimmick, a scam - another way to control, tax and keep us in our place, whilst TPTB make more money off the back of us.

Nothing more, nothing less.



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 03:57 PM
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These schemes feel to me like pond scum. We need to get rid of them. Carbon trading, bailouts, new and imaginative ways to tax us, all this stuff is suffocating us.



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Dermo
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This kind of system will have to be implemented at some stage and the near future is probably the best time.. As much as I hate the fact that this is all based on lies, I can see that these lies are necessary to get past the dirty industry boss's that are there and convince people that the system need to be changed instead of continuing with rising energy commodity prices that will only serve to completely cripple the global economy again in the near future.


Oh yes, it was implemented already, and it caused riots worldwide, because regular people could not pay for the increase prices of everything over a Green tax system that is defined to redistribute wealth among the wealthy.

Does this have to be implemented sometime? It does not, because once again, people cannot pay for taxes which are made just to redistribute wealth among the rich.




Rising oil prices spark worldwide protests

May 29, 2008

LONDON: The British Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, has called for greater international action to halt spiralling oil prices as European and Asian fishermen and truck drivers staged protests and anger mounted over soaring fuel costs.

Mr Brown said the global economy was facing "the third great oil shock of recent decades" and the way the world confronted the problem "will define our era". He was to meet industry leaders later in the day to discuss the problem.

The French President, Nicolas Sarkozy, has called for a Europe-wide cut in oil taxes to help consumers and European ministers appealed for direct European Union aid to help the hard-hit fishing industry.

The pain of record oil prices is also being felt in Asia. Indonesia, Taiwan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh have raised fuel prices or said they will, driven by the unsustainable cost of subsidies.

Indonesian police clashed with protesters across the country on Monday as anger at the Government's decision to remove subsidies brought students and fishermen onto the streets.

Malaysia said on Tuesday it would ban petrol stations on its borders with Thailand and Singapore from selling fuel to foreigners in an attempt to contain the cost of subsidies.

Fishermen and truck drivers were in the vanguard of the protests across Western Europe over rising fuel costs, amid recent record global oil prices above $US130 a barrel.

French riot police cleared blockading fishermen from an oil depot at Fos-sur-Mer near Marseille, but off the north coast of France, fishing fleets resumed blockades of ports and cross-Channel ferries over fuel prices.

In London, hundreds of angry truckers, horns blaring, drove through the city on Tuesday. They handed in a petition to Downing Street demanding a rebate in fuel tax. About 100 truck drivers staged a similar protest in the Welsh capital, Cardiff.

In Spain, truck drivers joined striking fishermen in calling for government help to cover soaring fuel costs, before a meeting between road transport firm bosses and transport ministry officials. Italian, Greek and Portuguese fishermen may strike later this week.

European ministers on Tuesday called for EU economic aid to the industry. The French Agriculture Minister, Michel Barnier, on the sidelines of an informal meeting of his EU counterparts in Slovenia, said other EU ministers had agreed that "a budget should be earmarked" for economic assistance to fishermen.

Agence France-Presse, Guardian News & Media



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