Dulce Investigation

I am interested in conducting a dulce investigation to find out the lagitamacy of such stories. It truly is a fasanating story but I have yet to see any type of evidence. Philip Shnider seems reliable but I need something I can sink my teeth into. Would anyone be interested in doing a survey of the area to search for any ventalation holes or does anyone have any information. Im looking for any photos testimony or anything people have to offer. After I do enought research I want to try to do some type of actual investigation to try to find possible ventilation shafts or entrances to the base. I am tired of just being led by false leads from web sites that only have 3rd hand testimony. I feel as though it is going to be extremely important to find out the truth in the coming years before disaster strikes.

You speak of impending disaster which is a pretty general statement can you elaborate for all us A.T.S'ers what you mean by disaster???

Well I live in california so I can't help you but...

If you were in search of air ducts or openings. try looking for the type of evidence they would leave in their surrounding environment. The air coming out of those ducts might have more or less moisture than the ambient air outside on top of the archeluta mesa or in it's surrounding areas. Since that air is either more or less humid the plants and shrubs that they are probably using to hide the air vents and or mask the thermal signature of the escaping air should be growing differently than the surrounding plants. this could be especially useful if the google earth sat pics of the area are taken from a winter month or fall where the effect would be even more noticeable than in other seasons.

Although, they might be crazy enough to either cool or heat the air to match what sensors near the air vent out side in the bushes are registering. that way exhaust plumes aren't visible from thermal detectors. And they could even try to match to humidity too so that the plants don't grow differently around the exhaust port. Not hard to do. Greenhouses do this and it's fairly cheap.

Also, try figuring out how they get their water in and out. although again it's possible that they are shipping that in via a tunnel that may open up several miles away from the base into some mundane looking place. someplace thats a front.

This base was the focus of last nights UFO Hunters on the History Channel. I had never heard about this before. Currently, I'm not very far from this place...within 100-200 miles, which out here int very far.
According to the show, its on an Indian Res. and you must have an Indian Guide to access the area.
Nearly everyone spoken to in the vicinity has 1st hand stories about alien sightings and "strange" occurances out there.
I'm intrigued...

In my research it seems as though something big is going to happen in the next ten years. Although I cannot offer any proof, evidence seems to indicate that there may be a great change in the years leading to and following 2012.. I am not the type to believe in the theories of things like Nibiru but it seems as though our current system is loosing stability. The population is growing tremendously too fast and I have read of possible theories of our solar system entering into the stronger regions of gravity in the galaxy. There is obviously a climate change that we are entering into as the other planets in our solar system are warming also possible due to solar flares. Also our magnetisphere has been decreasing since we started to measure it in the 20th century which is our shield to the sun. There also seems to be emerging a new world order also as Alex Jones' reashearch and David Ickes research as shown. Although all of this is very hard to follow I believe finding proof of these underground bases would fill a huge part of the puzzle.

Yeah that was a great show last night. Even had good old john lear in it.

I really liked that they somehow got basic floor plans for the base. I'd try and find them before and no dice, all I could ever get were the drawings of the embryos and the vats etc...

Liked to get my hands on some links to those floor plan drawings.

reply to post by ElostoneAs am I. Did you happen to notice it seemed like they cut footage from the survey at the top of the mesa. They didn't even look for the holes reported and they only show him looking for heat signatures on one side. An interesting clip was shown right before they cut to commercials where the new guy says "I have to see this" and they show wat looks like to be a hole coming out of a conrete shaft of some sort, but they only show it for maybe 2 seconds. I noticed this because I have DVR and i could pause it and go back. Maybe they are protecting there heads but I dont know. Perhaps in a way acting as disinformation as if they found nothing because you would figure that they would include that. If the history channel showed something not found before or shown before they would probably get in a lot of trouble.

Originally posted by TruthSeeker42
I am interested in conducting a dulce investigation to find out the lagitamacy of such stories. It truly is a fasanating story but I have yet to see any type of evidence. Philip Shnider seems reliable but I need something I can sink my teeth into. Would anyone be interested in doing a survey of the area to search for any ventalation holes or does anyone have any information. Im looking for any photos testimony or anything people have to offer. After I do enought research I want to try to do some type of actual investigation to try to find possible ventilation shafts or entrances to the base. I am tired of just being led by false leads from web sites that only have 3rd hand testimony. I feel as though it is going to be extremely important to find out the truth in the coming years before disaster strikes.

Believe it or not you can see it with Google Earth!
Just start from Dulce and look at the surrounding mountain peaks.
Look to the west of Dulce.
It appears to be right on the border of Colorado and New Mexico.
Look at it from the point of view of the aliens.
It must be hard to get to and just out of the way.
According to Bob Lazar there was an "altercation"
It was part of the briefing he received while at S4.
I think it took place December 29, 1980.
Jimmy Carter was the lame duck president. Reagan was sworn in
January 1981.
We basically got our butts kicked by the aliens during the short
underground battle.
They left the base but left us their Triangle Starship.
I guess they had a small shuttle craft.
We flew the Triangle Starship east to one of our bases near Texas.
We reverse engineered it and built a few of our own.
This is where most of the Star Wars money went.
The Triangle Starship has a AUTO LOAD reactor.
The Gray sport model pic in my avatar has a MANUAL LOAD reactor.
Majestic 12 wanted that auto load reactor. We basically stole it.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by TruthSeeker42I am interested in conducting a dulce investigation to find out the lagitamacy of such stories. It truly is a fasanating story but I have yet to see any type of evidence. Philip Shnider seems reliable but I need something I can sink my teeth into. Would anyone be interested in doing a survey of the area to search for any ventalation holes or does anyone have any information. Im looking for any photos testimony or anything people have to offer. After I do enought research I want to try to do some type of actual investigation to try to find possible ventilation shafts or entrances to the base. I am tired of just being led by false leads from web sites that only have 3rd hand testimony. I feel as though it is going to be extremely important to find out the truth in the coming years before disaster strikes.

 tBelieve it or not you can see it with Google Earth!Just start from Dulce and look at the surrounding mountain peaks.Look to the west of Dulce.It appears to be right on the border of Colorado and New Mexico.Look at it from the point of view of the aliens.It must be hard to get to and just out of the way.According to Bob Lazar there was an "altercation"It was part of the briefing he received while at S4.I think it took place December 29, 1980.Jimmy Carter was the lame duck president.  Reagan was sworn inJanuary 1981.We basically got our butts kicked by the aliens during the shortunderground battle.They left the base but left us their Triangle Starship.I guess they had a small shuttle craft.We flew the Triangle Starship east to one of our bases near Texas.We reverse engineered it and built a few of our own.This is where most of the Star Wars money went.The Triangle Starship has a AUTO LOAD reactor.The Gray sport model pic in my avatar has a MANUAL LOAD reactor.Majestic 12 wanted that auto load reactor. We basically stole it.

Could you provide any cordinates Im having trouble finding it. Where did you find this information. Ive heard of similar stories from Shnider but if they kicked our ass why did they leave us such a space craf

[edit on 26-3-2009 by TruthSeeker42]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker42
reply to post by Elostone

 

As am I. Did you happen to notice it seemed like they cut footage from the survey at the top of the mesa. They didn't even look for the holes reported and they only show him looking for heat signatures on one side. An interesting clip was shown right before they cut to commercials where the new guy says "I have to see this" and they show wat looks like to be a hole coming out of a conrete shaft of some sort, but they only show it for maybe 2 seconds. I noticed this because I have DVR and i could pause it and go back.

YES! I did notice that and I WISHED I could go back to review. Did you also notice in that particular segment, right before he said that, they showed a view from his infra-red camera that showed an intense heat signature coming from that spot that after the commercial was dismissed as "Nothing to see here, Let's move on..." Didja notice that too?
Interesting...

Well apparently we had a plan and it worked.
I think we disabled the Triangle Starship.
Then we started the attack.
Our weapons were no match for theirs.
They left in the only spacecraft that worked.....a small shuttlecraft.
These aliens were the ones responsible for all the cattle
mutilations in the area.
It's not too far from Dulce.
Just hike to the mountain peak to west and look down at that valley.
It's my guess you will be stopped by someone if you get too close.
The U.S. Navy runs the underground base now.
The aliens are gone.
They are ALL more respectfull of the US Military now that we
have the TECHNOLOGY and the MEANS to defend ourselves.



[edit on 26-3-2009 by Eurisko2012]

BTW...Welcome to ATS!
I sent you a U2U...it is at the top of the page on the right hand side...

reply to post by ElostoneI know I saw that I just cant respond because I havent had enough posts yet I will as soon as I can.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Well apparently we had a plan and it worked.
I think we disabled the Triangle Starship.
Then we started the attack.
Our weapons were no match for theirs.
They left in the only spacecraft that worked.....a small shuttlecraft.
These aliens were the ones responsible for all the cattle
mutilations in the area.
It's not too far from Dulce.
Just hike to the mountain peak to west and look down at that valley.
It's my guess you will be stopped by someone if you get too close.
The U.S. Navy runs the underground base now.
The aliens are gone.
They are ALL more respectfull of the US Military now that we
have the TECHNOLOGY and the MEANS to defend ourselves.



[edit on 26-3-2009 by Eurisko2012]

This all sounds very interesting but where are you getting this information. I am open minded but no blind believer. Once again is there any chance you could provide cordinates for it on google earth im having trouble finding the mesa.

Not to sound like a "Negative Nancy," but I don't think you'll find a lot of physical evidence (i.e. shafts and the like) indicating a possible underground base in Dulce. However, I do believe one is there. I think you may have better luck interviewing local residents and those who live in their surrounding area. I know there's an Indian Reservation nearby - maybe you can try there (even though some of the theories I've heard have them colluding with the military to keep the truth of Dulce secret from the public). Undoubtedly, you'll encounter some B.S. stories from local residents, too. But you usually do in any investigation. Yet, if Dulce is what it is believed to be (or believed to have been at some point), you'll find someone who wants that story out.

I went back to Google Earth. Here you go.
It's Mount Archuleta.
My Google says:
36'59'25 N
107'04'20 W
Elevation 7,200 feet
Just like S4 , the doors look like a mountain side.
Imagine flying along in your starship. Lets see. Where do we put our
underground base? Hey, this looks pretty good.
The indians in the area called them the space people long before
Christopher Columbus landed on the east coast in 1492.
There are bases all over the Earth.
This is just one of them.
If i was an alien, i would put my base in very cold part in northern
Canada. Miles from anyone. Probably 700 miles east of Anchorage, Alaska.

[edit on 26-3-2009 by Eurisko2012]

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I also live pretty close to Dulce, have some friends there, go fishing, camping and play blackjack in the casino there. I can show you around if you buy the beer and burgers. Be advised it's Rez, private and BLM land and a lot of it is posted. Also a huge amount of oil/natural gas exploration, extraction and storage on the Jicarilla Apache land that could be confused with underground bases. I don't know if there is a base there but I've not seen any evidence, but then again I respect private property rights and don't go snooping around, especially where strangers could get their butt shot off for trespassing.

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One thing to look for is support for such a base. There would be maintenance roads to the facility, and for personnel and supplies to get to the base. There would also need to be emergency escape routes, as even the most sophisticated places can have accidents.

Vents, pipes letting out water, and towers used for communication would be other things to look for.

The idea should be to find the base, then try to figure out what is going on there. It is known that a secret base can be built in plain sight.

Don't talk to the locals, as they may be there just to get the income from you. Get all the local maps of the surrounding counties of local roads. Some private roads may not be marked, and they could either be used by government or private ranchers. (A hidden camera on such roads would indicate if they are in use and by whom.)

To do the research justice, one would have to be there for a few months. Good luck on your research.

edit - wrong thread...

If you missed the documentary you can find it on youtube. Its an enjoyable watch so far.

[edit on 30-3-2009 by Beegs]

i'm from taos, about 100 miles east of Dulce. about a year ago coming out of utah on a weekend roadtrip we decided to go through dulce. you get this eerie feeling when driving across the Navajo Damn (only way eastbound through dulce), and then you notice there are government vehicles patrolling the area. the region is beautiful with amazing landscape, almost like an alien planet itself. we didn't see much of archuleta mesa, but we drove through the valley in what turned out to be a beautiful town. it's hard to believe such atrocities are going on in such a gorgeous place. anyways, taos has enough crazy # happening on its own and i tend to see most UFOs, orbs, what have you, in the northern region. this is better to document, as many have stated, the archuleta mesa is a RESERVATION and natives down here will shoot you on their land. if you are looking to see UFO activity i would not reccomend dulce, but visiting the Jemez mountain region where I have had some of my best sightings. The biggest city there is Los Alamos, where you are met with military personnel with assault rifles. if you don't mind that aspect, there are some very curious regions in the areas mountains- said to house thousands of grays and reptilian entities. anyway, good luck on your adventure in New Mexico, always feel free to hit me up when you're in the area and i can show you around. as far as digging up proof on dulce, well i suppose you would have to live there and get cool with the natives. whatever you are looking for in new mexico you will most likely find. peace