Emergency Broadcast - New World Order Ahead!

Originally posted by jheated7
reply to post by Bombeni

 

UGHhhh I've wasted my time replying to this knowing I would get bombarded with scripture, but I'm not completely ruling it out... Come back to me when you're on your deathbed saying "It will happen any minute now!" just like everybody else in history

I will discuss this with you gladly but how can you expect me to ignore scripture, as I believe it to the Word of God?

reply to post by Elepheagle


Thanks for being sensible about your post, I just wanted to say that's how it "COULD" happen not saying it is the truth, but it's not exactly way out there as far as conspiracies go.... I was just waiting to be refuted by someone who would proclaim that the bible is absolute fact, that also is their opinion and they're entitled to it....

Originally posted by Elepheagle

Originally posted by blujay
I read the scrolling text mostly - the headlines read like the bible predicts: historic flooding, economic tragedy, escalating warfare, earthquakes, etc.

We are watching history unfold before our very eyes

Eh...if you looked at history before 1950, i.e. say the last 2000 years; this stuff's been going on. Constantly. To propose that this is all something new, is something else...one needs to wield a narrow lens to rest at this conclusion.

Gosh I don't like to be a broken record but I repeat, a very critical prophecy was not fulfilled until 1948, when Israel became a soveriegn nation! The people who thought it was the end times before that were just flat wrong. The entire endtime prophecy teeters on what will happen in Israel. The Bible makes this clear, and wow how coincidental, the entire world is now focused on Israel. One false move by anyone concerning Israel and it's curtains. Well that sounds kinda goofy I know but I am trying to make a point that is being ignored.

reply to post by Bombeni


How can you say Israel being a nation is the same as Israel in the bible? Who knows? maybe it's populated by a majority of people who are not really the ones mentioned in the bible? I don't even know if it's in the right geographical location.... The nation was created and labeled, that does not mean it is genuine...

reply to post by jheated7


I don't know if I totally understand the question, but a Jew is a Jew, right?
The Jewish nation began in Israel and were scattered all over the face of the map for a couple of thousand years, but they are back in their homeland now, all as foretold by the Prophets.

Who supposedly wrote the scrolls from which your bible was derived?

Jews.

Who does their bible say are "god's chosen people"?

Jews.

A bit ironic wouldnt you say?

Why would the creator of humans choose a few of them as "his posse, his people, his beloved"?

he created all humans, but only prefers a few of them?

If Americans would have written the bible, im sure they would have said that Americans are gods chosen people.

Why do many humans so strongly desire to feel like they are "in the know" and have a strong and firm grasp on their realities because they have a book that says so?

Whats so wrong with just living and dying and not having to know what happens afterwards? We dont know where we were before we were born but no one ever questions that?

Who wants to go to a heaven anyways where you have to sing praises for "eternity" to the supposed god of creation? If you created the universe, you shouldnt need to be told how great you are for all of eternity. Sounds like god has a bit of a complex.

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Originally posted by Bombeni
reply to post by Mozzy

 

First of all, you're very welcome.

It is related, you would know that if you actually read it. Try even looking at the Bible as a novel; you would be absolutely amazed that two thousand years ago these guys could write a story that would unfold before our very eyes in this century.

I've read the bible. nice piece of fiction. anyone that uses the bible to forsee the future is very gullible (IMO).

reply to post by dimensionaljumper


Yes there is some irony there; the irony is that even though we understand that the Jews were chosen by God to receive His word and transcribe it and keep the Bible, and that they were a special people to God for whatever reason, I can't think that any Christian would be jealous of the Jews, if that is what you suggest? The Jews have had a hard life I am just fine with being a Gentile. Jesus came that NONE should perish but that ALL should have everlasting life.

It's all well and good to get the truth out there. But, as I see it, if you're not reaching the masses...you're wasting your time. Time is not on our hands. 1 person waking up every week is not enough. We need to get this thing out there to the masses. Only then will we stand a chance. Because, by the time we all wake up(or at least most of us)...it would already be too late at the snail pace we're moving at.

I'm tired of hearing "We have to do something..." bla bla bla. Stop talking about doing something and damnit do something. Everyone's waiting for the other guy to start...everyone's waiting for "back up", because to do it alone is suicide, and will result in nothing. But, it's with good reason why everyone's waiting on the other guy. Do you know why? Because, they out-power us. We only out-power them when we get the numbers, and it is the numbers that we do not have. So, we're all sitting, probably uploading a video or 2 online and sharing with a few friends every now and again, waiting patiently for the time when the numbers will be too much for the Elitist to deal with. But, as I said, if we do not find a way to get our numbers up much faster...it makes no sense. You know it, I know it...you all know it.

It's torment. Because, the folks that do know...can't do a damn thing about it, because what we also know is, that we do not have the numbers to even create a dent in their plans. So, we go on about our lives, working for the nasty system that we live, fully aware of what's going on...and it urks us knowing we can't really do a damn thing...unless more people knew.

And no, if you're sending letters to your senators and representatives in an effort to do something, we both know you're wasting your time. That has never worked, nor will it ever work. As if your senators could do a damn thing about anything. In fact, most of them don't even care to do anything...because once their pockets are full...to hell with the people they serve.

Some do care, and that is how the truth came out in the first place. The truth came from the people on the inside who had heart, conscience and love for humanity. But...the numbers just don't cut it. There is not enough of us to out-power the 6000 or so elitist, that have enormous power in their resources.

My personal opinion on this entire matter...is to realize what is working...and what is not working. Our method of getting the truth out is NOT working. Yes, the truth is coming out, but it's reaching far too little people...and if we continue using these methods, by the time it reaches the amount of people it needs to reach...it would be far too late.

Getting the truth out is all well and good, but I say, we come together, brain storm, and really find a way to get the truth out to reach millions(yes, millions) of people!

It sounds far fetched, and it may be, but it's also very possible. And it's also something I think we really need to do.

Anyone with me on that?

reply to post by sensfan


Yeah, uh-huh.

reply to post by sdrawkcabII


Im with ya on every opinion you threw out there, but what kind of ideas did you have in mind? All I could think to do would be to get a bunch of my old school computer nerd friends together and see who has the best knowledge. Then have the forge a news article created by one of us, some one that has an amazing gift for telling stories, and put this information in the Times or whatever the most popular newspaper is. Hell, send it to a few.

Aside from that, there is no way. We couldn't get it on the television. Their airwaves are guarded too closely now.

I truly dont think we could change anyone's mind. People these days have been brainwashed by the media to not trust the media. People would rather believe things that make no sense, like a giant llama is all supreme and watches from his heavenly grazing fields.

believe what you will, but i think along different lines. I don't care about prophecies, but I do care about thruth and freedom. I can see the lines of morality in the government slowly shifting from borderling to very immoral. Don't believe me, take a look at a few of the new bills recently passed.

reply to post by Bombeni


The Jews have had a hard life? According to whom?

Holocaust?

What about the Africans? Holocaust and genocide has prevailed on their continent for hundreds of years while the developed nations of the world sit on the sidelines? But we decide to intercede for the jews?

What about the Palestinians who have been persecuted by the jews since the US and UK kicked them out of their own land in 1948 when the US decided that the bible said that Palestine is the home of the jews, not the Palestinians.

The jews were gypsys who never had a home, but claimed in their bible that they did, so they got what they wanted in the end.

Originally posted by Myrdyn
Considering the mess that most of the world is currently in - mainly due to decades of financial greed and deceit - can anyone point out what is so worrying about this 'New World Order'?

New - Not like it used to be.
World - Globally.
Order - As oppossed to disorder.

What are you getting your knickers in a twist about?



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You want a basterdized one world government? Thats what all the fuss is about my friend. I don't want .0001 of the population controlling the other 99.9999 just because they can and want to. That is called exploitation!

Just look at the distribution of land and wealth on this planet. I think we really do need socialism and I am not talking about the german version. Eastern europeans did not drive fancy cars, wear expensive suits or go on vacation whenever they felt like it but very few people died of starvation, none where homeless, many were educated and everyone had a guaranteed job.

Do I want communism? No, I want social democracy! A mixture of capitalism and socialism, a system which marries self responsibility to group responsibility and encourage private intiative but does aways with the excesses of corporate capitalism. Corporatism, the stock market and private central banks need to die because they are the root of almost all evil.

We should go back to private capitalism where everyone has a small store and its up to them if they suceed or fail. We pay a few extra dollars/euros for our merchandise but at least each will be his/her own boss. Under this system no one can have unjust influence upon their respective government and excessive consumerism will be a thing of the past.

Ok I am going slightly off topic but my point was if the world ever unites and it should we need to have a society based on equal opportunity and justice for all. One language, one species, one government, laws that are crystal clear, perhaps one or no religion and least but not last travel/ settle on other planets.

We need to take care of the enviroment or the enviroment will take care of us. I think it is pathetic and a sign of absolute greed that companies are allowed to exploit natural resources without giving a damm about the consequences.

Finally the biggest hurdle of all is OVERPOPULATION! We can solve everything else but unless people in poor, undeveloped countries stop reproducing like rabbits our entire discussion will be a waste of time for obvious reasons.

Originally posted by dimensionaljumper
reply to post by Bombeni

 

The Jews have had a hard life? According to whom?

Holocaust?

What about the Africans? Holocaust and genocide has prevailed on their continent for hundreds of years while the developed nations of the world sit on the sidelines? But we decide to intercede for the jews?

What about the Palestinians who have been persecuted by the jews since the US and UK kicked them out of their own land in 1948 when the US decided that the bible said that Palestine is the home of the jews, not the Palestinians.

The jews were gypsys who never had a home, but claimed in their bible that they did, so they got what they wanted in the end.

Well put

can one join the NWO or can they all go to hell

reply to post by Halzman


Well said.
I think a good movie for everyone to watch to understand the situation a little more clearly is "The Power Of Nightmares".

It is a British documentary and is somewhat long, about 3 hours. But the information located within that movie is well worth obtaining as it can further the understanding of these ever so illusive terrorists and sleeper cell's that are just EVERYWHERE!

Originally posted by XXXN3O
reply to post by spellbound

 

About a week ago.

I was driving in my car and saw what looked like a black bag on the road.
I dodged it and looked in my mirror and it was a guy lying flat out on the road.

I turned around and got out the car.

There were about 7 people standing nearby looking at him muttering things such as "f**king junkie", "look at the state that guys in", "what a waste".

I went over and moved him onto the path and slowly moved him round.

Called an ambulance when I saw the gash in his head.

Turned out he had been beaten up and possibly mugged.
I called an ambulance and waited for it with him, spoke with the police and ive never heard about it since. I wonder if he would have died if I didnt look in the mirror??

That speaks volumes to me about people judging others.

Some need to look in the mirror big time.

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Truly amazing!

I have had some things similar to this happen to me. One day I was going home from work and on the road I saw a cloud of dust and some guy on his bike (motorcycle) crashed. Me and some other guy (Ex-military) stopped and saved this guy from rolling himself off of a cliff ledge. He was in shock, twitching and mumbling spastically.

The interesting thing is after he wrecked a pistol dislodged from his coat pocket and some people that were watching me and the other guy hold him from wriggling off the edge kind of spazzed after seeing the gun and backed away and left.

I can understand their concern but this guy needed help and was also gashed in the head from the crash. Me and the Ex-military guy stayed for the ambulance and never heard anything since. How many would have left him to die because of the gun? I don't know but it shows me something about human character.

The other story is upon driving down the road with some family we saw something unreal. We saw a large escalade rolling down the side of the road rather violently if you can picture it like you see in the movies.

It probably rolled about 15 times or so. We quickly pulled off the road and I ran over and jumped the fence expecting to see the worse.

Simply to say, I and one other person stopped to help. Everyone else just looked and drove by. It was quite surreal.

No one stopped to ask if they needed help and just kept driving by the accident and wreckage. The SUV was on it's side and we found 2 ladies somehow still in the car.

Everyone was fine with minor injuries but what astounds me is that people simply seemed to not care much.

The point I am trying to make is that people seem to not care about others as much as they should or as much as I would like to see. There are those that do care and would jump to help. But like you said it speaks volumes.......

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Originally posted by slicely
Maybe we need someone to de-populize the planet and help start over again.

Is this some kind of sick joke or are you serious? No one should ever have to debate such stupidity!

Originally posted by slicely
If no one does, where are we going to end up in another 100 years when our population has grown by a third and we have no food left at all? Sure you can blame that on the goverments and corporations, but they aren't the ones that are having 8 kids on welfare and jobless.

Who brought black minorities to america to be used as slaves? They certainly didn't come on their own free will. After 200 years of american evolution I guess a few concepts never change with some people. Why not man up and accept responsibility? Is the pill too bitter to swallow...

And besides generalizing about different ethnic groups is always wrong because no two people are alike. For this reason people must be judged individually!

Originally posted by elfulanozutan0
reply to post by pieman

 

dude the bible did predict the NWO. Research it you ignorant slob. And a lot more than 20% of the population is Christian.

You are a very ignorant person. In denial, you probably worship Bill Maher

WHOA!
Is that really necessary?
Are you not mature enough to state your opinions without openly revealing your lack of self control and intellectual debating potential?

Seriously why are you on ATS?
Can't simply agree to disagree or take a logical approach to debate the current topic?

I feel ATS is used for debate of intellectual topics instead of forcing our opinion on each other with name calling. Just because someone disagrees with you does not make them incorrect or make them a slob. And it certainly does not justify name calling.

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reply to post by EarthCitizen07


I'm 100% in agreement with the other guy you commented on. The world is over populated as it is. If I could just press a button and kill, at random, 3/4th the worlds population, I would. In a heartbeat. Be it friends, family, strangers, famous, beautiful, ugly, weathly, poor... you get the picture. I keep hoping armageddon happens sometime in my life, because I truly relish the idea of being around to witness mankind finally start to think for themselves again.

That's what the problem is today, everyone is so worried about their own immediate friends and family that they can't see the world wide damage that sort of idealism is actually causing.