What do you hate about America?

Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
American dream is the world nightmare !

what is the american dream, do you even know? last i looked everyone wants the same thing as americans do, we didnt screw the world up- the world screwed itself up long before america existed.

American way of life is big, big, big..!

Big cars, Big food, Big money...

American way of life is based on the consumerism excess. America (USA) are swalowing the whole earth ressources just for bizness. When these ressources will be empty, what will left ?

i thought the American dream was about immgrating to the states and living the new life, well that what i was taught in history

Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
American way of life is big, big, big..!

Big cars, Big food, Big money...

American way of life is based on the consumerism excess. America (USA) are swalowing the whole earth ressources just for bizness. When these ressources will be empty, what will left ?

Nice generalizations

When I last checked, most of the world is right there alondside the US comsuming those very same resources. France, China, India etc......

Originally posted by infinite
i thought the American dream was about immgrating to the states and living the new life, well that what i was taught in history

Not for those of us born here.

Originally posted by Bangin

Originally posted by infinite
i thought the American dream was about immgrating to the states and living the new life, well that what i was taught in history

Not for those of us born here.

I sorry, I've mixed US way of life and US dream...

I think american dream can be resumed in three words :

Money, Glory, Power...

How much time have you actually spent in the US?

Hmmm....... my dream is actually for world peace and prosperity for everyone, and I'm American......

Don't generalize, it is not very becoming.

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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
I sorry, I've mixed US way of life and US dream...

I think american dream can be resumed in three words :

Money, Glory, Power...

No need to apologize. Generalizations are rarely accurate, and your above post is not an exemption. None of the above apply to me.

I'm going to post a quote from 1984...

If he were allowed contact with foreigners he would discover that they are creatures similar to himself and that most of what he has been told about them is lies. The sealed world in which he lives would be broken, and the fear, hatred, and self-righteousness on which his morale depends might evaporate.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?

I'd find it hard to hate anything about America. Some of the US governments foreign policies are questionable, and I'm glad we don't have the gun laws they have there, but I dont hate those things.

There are a lot of generalisations being made on this thread, mainly ignorant ones... but isn't hatred in its most part a product of ignorance? (nicely illustrated by the quote above from 1984)

LOL Muadib...Amuk...admit it, you just dont like anyone badmouthing the USA...

I made my point in this post and now I will leave..waste of time trying to reason with brainwashed Americans...

The truth is you have the WMD's and you use/used them on people. YOu can live with that and some of you seem proud of it.

I have tried my damn hardest to try and be reasonable with my opinions about the USA...but it is a waste of time..it is to late, you are morons that have done way to much damage to our planet, and continue to do so.

Reason I had a go at Amok was his attitude to ww2 was all...muadib whats your reason???

USA is a country that doesn't care how the rest of the world looks at you... What you have done and doing to our planet is unforgivable!

Stop murdering our fellow humans!!!

Oooo did you say Saddam had WMD's...well you didn't find any and if you believe US created evidence that Saddam moved them then you are seriously to easily convinced. The people that did know the truth have either been shot or mysteriously committed suicide.

LOL go watch your fictional news

The rest of the world will just have to sit back and watch morons destroy our planet.........

I have so much reason to hate you...though I don't I look at you as a race of spoilt children with big toys.

This isnt just about your sick unfair wars, its about your total lack of responsibility towards the planet.

PS your not the only bad country that is polluting the world..but even Russia decided to sign up to cut emmisions...USA decided not to as work is more important than life....wow now that is stupid isn't it?!?!?

You see the world needed the US to support this, but you never and now we must live in a polluted world..thankyou USA.

I dont hate you but many do, and you know why.

ALSO, MY STATEMENT ABOUT MORON AND BRAINWASHED AMERICANS......ISNT TOWARDS ALL AMERICANS...I HAVE MET A LOT OF NICE PEOPLE FROM THE USA..BUT ITS A BIG COUNTRY THAT IS ALSO FILLED WITH..IDIOTS

[Edited on 23-4-2004 by AgentMadcap]

I am expecting insults to be hurled my way.......it is just predictable.

Hope someone from the USA kinda agrees with me, surely you are not all conditioned?

What do I hate about America. I will agree with many that have stated that *hate* is a strong word.
So instead here is what urks me and my proposed solution. (Though it being unlikely considered, but who knows??)

I am not crazy about the way the U.S. depends on
Oil and Coal. Neither are worth the time and expenses.
Solution:Biomass and Nuclear! biomass because it is
simple to implement, cheap, with right types of plants
less polluting. Nuclear, particularly (re:Thermal) Fusion
as soon as possible, however I see no harm with
Fission as a temporary solution. Just as long as the plants are ultra-secure and we find a way to reuse the
waste in a recyclable form.

The unregulated use of Cell phones while driving. Apparently there are a lot of folks who forgot that attention span is really important while driving.
Solution:If I had the power to influence Auto makers to
include some kind of voltage modulator (or thingmajigg hee hee) that would only allow a Cell to be powered on
if the vehicle is stationary. At the very least let the passenger talk instead.

Nuclear Weapons are kinda Pandora's Box, I feel it's too late, it's open folks. I am aware that I am in the minority that feel that my country made a horrific mistake twice over. Making them, then using them. Even at the time of development (from what I understand) the researchers nor the gov't was fully aware of what kind of power it had. I still hear about some really weird things that happen in Japan. (i.e. Peoples shadows that never go away,etc) Again, the box is open and now I feel that we
have to face up to that fact. Now everyone in some way is clamering to get some, unless they already possess them. Now that our country is aware of such horrors it can produce, it is only wise to retain our current stock and to *only* use them as the absolute last resort. Regarding the concerns for a *future* nuclear war, it would be wise to instead of making better or more efficient nukes, to instead work on anti-nuke capabilities instead.
That may not happen tommorow, may not happen in a decade, but i hope that it will happen within the next 100 years as a minimum.

It annoys me to no end how the Bush Admin. misrepresents any scientific notions, discoveries, or developments only because it works against their Theosophical agenda. (i.e. Cloning)

Lastly, for the moment, the only thing off the top of my head that I do not like or agree with in the U.S. is the Electorial College. I understand that it was instituted at time in the U.S. where only a handful of people were
reasonably educated. Now there is public education for well over a century, come on.. is it necessary anymore?
I feel that the EC is an appendix that needs to be surgically removed. Once that is done, then this country will truly be a reflection of it's people.

Although I stand on the ground that Marijuana should be legalized, it should also be regulated like other controlled substances, and that laws should be in place to where you spend the next 20 years in the brig for driving under the influence. Strict, perhaps, but when one considers the danger you have put on people lives (the ultimate way of interferring with someone else's rights....), then (imho) it's fitting.

As far as other americans complaining about how our Educational system is Euro-slanted. Please. There is a ton of information that is *not* being taught about at all. This also goes for European material. It would not surprise me at all if half of the U.S. even realized there were tribes in Europe long before Christianity came around to *assimulate* Europeans. In all of my years of education, not once were the Celts, the Norse, the Mithrils, the (original) Goths, or the Estruscians even being mentioned. I had to track that stuff down on my own. (if I failed to mention any other Euro tribe please forgive me..) Then imagine if we discussed the cultural history of every one else outside of Europe or the U.S.
Wow. That's a lot of information to digest in a mere 11 to 13 years.(Depending on advancement speed of course..)
I do however agree that it *should* be an available option for folks though. It would be silly to expect everyone to absorb all of this, but it wouldn't hurt to
let some absorb what they can or want to at the very least.

Ok I'm done

[Edited on 23-4-2004 by Crysstaafur]

[Edited on 23-4-2004 by Crysstaafur]

Well, I don�t really hate America, its just another culture. But there is a fact, when you are the first in any aspect, you�ll be the whole critics target. Here in Europe Americans are seen as a bunch of analphabets, people here usually laugh at American poll results as for example that Spain is located in south America. But of course I also saw on a tv program here telling folks that France was stealing us rain clouds by masses of people sucking air, and they really believed it!.
So I think that we should hate almost every human on the earth and not just Americans, they already had enough� yeah, teaching kids to use guns doesn�t seems good, but as I said its culture.
Now about government, excuse my expression, but I always said that actually whit the American world domination, the world is ruled by a bunch of cowboys.

AHHHH

Agent madcap we meet again......LOL

Where to start with your misinformed BS this time?

How about I NEVER said I was bitter about us going into WW2 most of my first post was sarcasm, I will wait while you look it up........

Done? OK I am against us interfering in ANY other countries affairs for the reason you just proved.....in other words no matter what we do some little whinny bitch will throw a fit. So it would be better to let all of you fight your own battles and feed your own people, we dont owe you #. I think what upset you about the WW2 post is that it was to close to home.

Ok, next,.....

Blindly support bush??

I think he is an idiot and have said so repetedly, but I do support the troops. I know what it is like to come home and be spit on by those that were not MAN enough to do their duty.

You can read, right? If so try READING my posts before running your mouth about things you have NO idea about.

You are just mad that EVERYONE does not fall into your hysterical blaming of America for all the ills in the world, and punks like you are the reason we should not lift a finger, well maybe just one, to help.

Originally posted by Spiderj
I'm an american born and bred and love my country.

I would like to see more people be more polite and courteous.

Would it kill people to say excuse me, or wave a thank you after you let them into the lane.

Also more aware of their world.

Other than that we rock!

Spiderj

I agree and i hate America because what was once a great nation is turning into $hit.

I am expecting insults to be hurled my way.......it is just predictable.

Agentmadcap.....you have either got to be the most idiotic person I have ever witnessed posting in a forum, or you were on crack or some other drug to have posted that last statement.

You insult, "IN CAPS", Americans who have a different view from your own, and then you expect not to be bashed and insulted for it?

WTF?

Talking about being intelligent....

Keep bashing the US for every problem that there is in the world...that shows how intelligent you and your friends in Europe are..... Then go in a "peace" demonstration and start using "violence" to show your view of "peace".

People like you have either taken too many drugs or are too stupid to realize the contradictions of your own actions and statements.

Originally posted by Facefirst
How much time have you actually spent in the US?

Hmmm....... my dream is actually for world peace and prosperity for everyone, and I'm American......

Don't generalize, it is not very becoming.

You are wrong Facefirst. Nans is exactly right. It's the "American Dream" we are talking about, which is a generalized statement in itself; not "Facefirst's Dream." MLK had a dream too, but it wasn't the "American Dream" even though he's an american.

The American Dream is to live in a big house with a nice car and be well known and liked by everyone. It's a complete farce because it also connotates that everyone has an equal ability to reach the top. If you believe everyone is born equal you are feeding yourself a lie perpetuated by your parents and every instructional figure in your early adolesence. As you get older you finally see how it is, well hopefully. Most people don't and punish themselves for not being successful according to the American Dream, even though they are very lucky in other respects.

The American Dream is a lie. The end.

"People like you have either taken too many drugs or are too stupid to realize the contradictions of your own actions and statements."

A little harsh considering how some people have a hard time with the 7th grade.

Not everyone has the "cojones" or conviction to try to reach the top. MLK did a lot for our country, and he succeded. There are black people who are in power, as well as women and other minority groups in power. You say its all a farce, I say it is proof that we have made great leaps.

Not every human has the ability to be a leader, so expecting that "everyone" will become a leader is the "farce".

Every human has different abilities in which they can be truly successful. But as it is true that not every man/woman is able to become a brain surgeon, the same goes for "reaching the top" if they don't put great effort to achieve this.

IMHO every human that has been able to reach its full potential, that is being a doctor, or a school teacher, or whatever else, is successful.

I have been witness of people crawling out from the worse places and become sucessful in the US, following their dreams and making sure they happen. This is possible only in a few countries and the US is one of those countries.

The american dream is the ability for every person who wants to reach their full potential to achive it. We have the ways to accomplish this in the US, most of the time people have to make many sacrifices to reach their dreams, but only people that are willing to make these sacrifices will achieve their dreams.

Edited by Muaddib

[Edited on 23-4-2004 by Muaddib]