What did the Military make me drink?

Originally posted by ReagrahamLincool
If I had aided in taking the life of someone in anyway I would stfu.

I am not impressed wih your 26 years of service.

You Fail.

Well, I see where this thread has gone way down hill.

Whatever, junior. I can guarentee that NO ONE is impressed with your 2.5 weeks in the service.

And yeah, I aided in the taking of lives. Big deal. Get over it. I sleep well every night.

Sorry, but you really fail when it comes to this subject.

We were given anti-nerve agent pills, pyridostigmine bromide, to take before we got to our destination. Some of us took them as "prescribed," but after a few of them we gave it up. We were young and were trying to be obedient, but thankfully we rebelled about that!!

The following year when I had my miscarriage, a nurse told me that there had been a lot of them that summer on our base. Hmmmm. I know my hub and I were both loaded up with vaccines before we deployed.

There is documentation out there about PB.

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Click here for more information.

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Yeah, and you are welcome to still live in our free country. You know, you have a lot of nerve to insult any military member. A lot of Americans have died so you could have the freedom to be this nasty.

Originally posted by calmbutwary
We were given anti-nerve agent pills, pyridostigmine bromide, to take before we got to our destination. Some of us took them as "prescribed," but after a few of them we gave it up. We were young and were trying to be obedient, but thankfully we rebelled about that!!

The following year when I had my miscarriage, a nurse told me that there had been a lot of them that summer on our base. Hmmmm. I know my hub and I were both loaded up with vaccines before we deployed.

There is documentation out there about PB.

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thank you for your response, all I questioned was other peoples' experiences in the military with such things. If anyone else would like to respond that would be great. That and I am sorry for your miscarriage, I hope you have had better luck in the past/future.

Originally posted by ReagrahamLincool
when was i looking to impress anyone, you're mr 26 weeks, what's wrong, did your lady leave you or do you just miss the smell of military butt.

What's wrong? Upset because you couldn't make it thru AF basic, one of the easier basics out there, and now venting to someone on ATS? Another internet tough guy.

But, hey, keep up on the personal attacks. They don't bother me one bit, but I'm certain that the mods might be slapping you down in a bit.

Originally posted by ReagrahamLincool
you sleep well at night? good for you. you'll be meeting the souls you took soon enough.

Don't bet on it.

Originally posted by ReagrahamLincool
have a nice night sonny.

Whatever, [SNIP].

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fighting for freedom is one thing, tell me how is killing people in iraq protecting the People's freedom? or in Afghanistan? Last time I checked our freedom is being snatched right out from under us from the same folks sending OUR troops off to kill and die. And your damn right I have a lot of nerve, I'm speaking for the innocent people whose lives you and your cronies have taken in the BS name of "Freedom".

"Mission Accomplished"

Originally posted by calmbutwary
We were given anti-nerve agent pills, pyridostigmine bromide, to take before we got to our destination. Some of us took them as "prescribed," but after a few of them we gave it up. We were young and were trying to be obedient, but thankfully we rebelled about that!!

It wasn't the Pyridostigmine that we got, but something else. I don't think we ever got the pyridostigmine tabs in time (thanks, supply!)

I know some guys got them, took them for a while, then tossed them with the thought of, "Why bother?"

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Thanks! Yes, we had a beautiful son soon after.

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Who would want to make it, the pay is crap plus you have to kill innocent people so others can profit. Gosh, I'd have though your generation would've learned from all the Vietnam Vets to stay clear of the military. But then again, I guess I got duped into the military, so I guess were kinda in the same boat. Except I don't believe in killing people for money and gloating about it on a thread not related to killing people. Lose Lose.

Bring the mods, you baited this off subject.

Originally posted by calmbutwary
reply to post by ReagrahamLincool

 

Yeah, and you are welcome to still live in our free country. You know, you have a lot of nerve to insult any military member. A lot of Americans have died so you could have the freedom to be this nasty.

Calmbutwary:

Don't worry, he's just a wannabe that became a neverwas. Bitter and full of angry over not being able to serve. He's no worry to someone like you or I that did serve.

All personal sniping, remarks and off topic posts cease NOW.

Originally posted by ReagrahamLincool
Who would want to make it, the pay is crap plus you have to kill innocent people so others can profit.

Again with the "innocent people" line. That never gets old.
And you're right, the pay is crap for the hoops we jump thru, but it's not about money.

Originally posted by ReagrahamLincool
Gosh, I'd have though your generation would've learned from all the Vietnam Vets to stay clear of the military.

Nah, guys who were in Vietnam motivated me to serve. Guys like Robert L. Howard. Google him and learn. Heck, even Obama knows him now

Originally posted by ReagrahamLincool
But then again, I guess I got duped into the military, so I guess were kinda in the same boat. Except I don't believe in killing people for money and gloating about it on a thread not related to killing people. Lose Lose.

Who said I was gloating? I'm just stating the facts. And once again, it wasn't for money.

i love how people who have never smoked marijuana jump to the conclusion that it impairs your judgement like alcohol. THEY ARE NOTHING ALIKE.

I am a graphic artist. if i had alcohol before a large project, it would be messy, #ed up with horrible ...everything.

if i smoke some bud and hit a project, i can make it photo realistic, and pound it out in 1 sitting (between smoke breaks and pick me ups)

until you become an avid smoker and know exactly what you are talking about -- - dont open your mouth. deny ignorance and try not to read into those public service announcements about marijuana.

you know what those do to stoners? make us laugh our asses off, because they are further from the truth then you can ever imagine.

sorry double post

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The drink was terrible, I wonder if you know what it was. I ran into so many ugly people (inside and out) in the military that drank the stuff. Any idea what it could have been?

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Back when the gulf war started i think i remember the pills u were talking about, something to do with the potential chemical warfare.

Have no idea what ReagrahamLincool could have drank maybe along the same recipe.

Don't worry about it.

You were given an ancient Hindu formula called the KALPA VIGRAHA.


It means you'll probably live to over 100.

THE KALPA VIGRAHA

The loss of a small 47 gm ancient Hindu brass-like metal idol of extreme antiquity called the Kalpa Vigraha has caused the American Central Intelligence Agency considerable anxiety. This unusual disclosure was made recently by a retired CIA agent on condition of absolute anonymity.

Firstly, what was the importance of this idol; what was the CIA doing with an ancient Hindu relic; and why the angst?

The story begins almost half a century ago. A heavy chest containing the idol was reportedly given to CIA officials for safekeeping at Lo Monthang (called “Mustang” in CIA files) by a Tibetan monk accompanied by Khampa bodyguards sometime in 1959-60. The monk apparently related to the CIA officials the importance of the chest and its contents. A curious CIA official meticulously wrote down the details of what the Buddhist monk told them about the chest and its contents. Why he thought it important to record the Buddhist monk’s story is anybody’s guess. But it also appears that the Americans were initially not quite impressed with the quaint values attached to objects of Oriental worship at that time when their priority was conducting a guerrilla war against the Chinese forces advancing into Tibet.

In the same week that the CIA officials received the chest a skirmish erupted with Chinese forces in which the Tibetan monk and his guards were killed. The CIA officials not knowing what to make of the curious chest loaded it onto an aircraft and had it sent to a secret airbase in India, later transporting it to Camp Hale, a now-abandoned Army base near Vail, Colorado. A few weeks later the chest wound up at a CIA store-room in Washington DC labeled “ST Circus Mustang-0183”.

Many months would elapse before someone in the CIA decided to take an interest in the chest and its contents. A strange manuscript found inside and the unusually age-worn chest coupled with its noticeably unique design prompted them to conduct a radiocarbon test of the timber with which the chest was made. The results given to them by the University of California Radiation Laboratory, Berkeley astounded the CIA officials. The antiquity of the worn-out wooden chest and the idol was mind-boggling to say the least. It did not belong to this “yuga” or epoch on the Hindu time scale just as the monk had claimed. That is to say, it belonged to a period called the Dwapara yuga, making it the oldest human artifact in existence. Radiocarbon (C14) dating conducted by the University of California Radiation Laboratory on the heavy 9-inch thick timber sides and lid of the chest in which it was discovered arrived at readings that indicated a period around 26,450 BCE. That would make it over 28,450 years old today, and about 23,300 years older than the legendary Hindu Kurukshetra war. The idol was also tested by experts who concluded that it was the oldest Hindu idol in existence. None of the known ancient excavated civilizations of history – Egyptian, Mesopotamian or Indus Valley existed before 6000 years ago.

The Kalpa Vigraha idol was reportedly found placed inside this heavy metal-lined wooden chest with a socket-and-pivot hinged lid and an ancient loop-and-rod lock assembly. The chest itself presented a curiosity, as the space within the box was barely 8 X 8 X 8 inches while the timber pieces used to construct all its five sides was about 8 inches thick each! The timber of which the lid of the chest was made also measured about 6 inches in thickness. The teak-wood timber was further protected by a 1-inch thick bronze-like alloy plate on all sides which despite severe external corrosion had preserved the teak-wood of the box to a fair extent. The metal plate appears to have been riveted into the teakwood with nails of some similar metal alloy. Though many rivets were missing, the metal casing held well. The appearance of the chest suggested that it might have lain buried for a considerable period of time, though scrape-marks from attempts made to clean the corrosion on the outside were visible.

Corrosive salts or dampness had not crept into the chest despite its age, though some degree of natural oxidation and decay was noticed in the contents of the chest which included a manuscript written on wooden slats and the small brass-like crude metal idol. The old pre-Rigvedic Sanskrit-type manuscript was translated by the CIA with difficulty. In fact it reportedly took two long years to decipher, employing experts including some Indian and Nepalese. They concluded that the language belonged to the proto-historic period of Hinduism when it was thought no language existed and that the Vedas were being passed down orally. The manuscript appeared to be something akin to Sanskrit, but not quite anything any archaeologist or historian had ever encountered before. The manuscript mentioned the name of the idol – “kalpa maha-ayusham rasayana vigraha” abbreviated in CIA files to “Kalpa Vigraha.”

The Kalpa Vigraha is a small crude brass idol weighing about 47.10 gms depicting a deity resembling the Hindu god Shiva kneeling or seated on one knee, a serpant’s hood forming a canopy above the head of the idol. In the right hand of the figure was a discus or circular weapon, perhaps the “sudharshan-chakra” of Hindu mythology. Around its neck was a string of beads. The metal formed three “loops” on one side caused by the snake, an arm holding a conch-shell and the discus. It measured about 5.3 cm tall and about 4.7 cms wide, with an oval base 2.5 cms long and 1.7 cms wide. There was no doubt the small statue was of some extreme importance to have been preserved with such care in a chest of such strength and durability.

But following the translation of the manuscript, events surrounding the Kalpa Vigraha suddenly took a mysterious turn. The UCRL’s records were impounded by the CIA and a shroud of silence was cast over all matters regarding the chest and the Hindu idol. “ST Circus Mustang-0183” was removed from the inventory at the CIA storehouse records, and the whole episode was swept under the carpet for some inexplicable reason.

FICTION, FICTION!

Really, it was someone's novel idea.

When I went through basic in 2002 - we had to drink something called "victory punch" from the drink dispensers with each meals. It tasted like gatorade, to be honest. The drills described it as an "electrolyte drink" - which I can understand because of the amount of salt and water we were losing with all the training.

Don't know if that was helpful or not....