Finance Crisis "could lead to war"

The West will not consider war with a major power like Russia or Asia, we need each other. Aerial strikes against Europe, Russia or China is not going to happen - economic factors are too great.

However, Africa and the Middle East. It is not precarious to see the Black Sea region or Northern Africa becoming the stage for a global conflict. The resources, oil and water, are located in these regions.

Or, more likely,a chemical attack on an Western nation would result in retaliation against the nation, who supplied the method and means to a rogue group. Pakistan? It's destitute and coming failed state tag will require foreign access in order to protect the nuclear arsenal.

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Or something in Mexico? Can't forget about the terrible mess there.

The coverage has been quite weird; didn't really hear anything about it from the MSM until a couple of weeks ago, then it seemed like all of a sudden it was this looming crisis.

Th Daily Mail is a sensationalist "newspaper" (I use the term loosely)... this isn't credible. At all...

Have you noticed how hard obama and his cronies are pushing this economic recovery in 2010 thing? I don't get it. And (according to polls) people are buying into it! What the hell have they done in the last couple of weeks that has been anything but detrimental to our financial system?! My eyes are certainly on North Korea and this "satellite launch" they are about to do. Hell, my eyes are on anyone and everyone. We can just take our pick it seems. The trend is so eerily similar to how the great depression went that you can hardly differentiate between now and the twenties-thirties so it makes sense that war would be coming. Against someone. Again.

we may not have enough money to go out on a full scale war....but you think our leaders havent thought about that? Especially our Generals?
I dont say that with a presumptuous attitutude, I say that only because I dont think that it would go the way people think.
America cant die, it wont die, and we the people can not allow it to die.
Itmay costs billions if not trillions to spend on war, but how much money do you think it would take for us to hit that shiny red button>? And the same goes for other countries as well. We all have that little red button, just in case and every nation knows who holds those buttons. I dont think that anyone wants to mess with those buttons, because war isnt what it was back in the day. We wont be storming the beaches. Ithink if it does happen, it will be either nucleor, or biological.
Im no authority on this subject, and I am probably wrong, its just what I believe will happen, my two cents. I dont think anyone has the money to spend on all those resources that they would need for conventional warfare. Instead, they will use whatever they already have, and it will get ugly. I hope you all have your fall out shelters ready.
again, just a thought. I am probably wrong though and I am sure someone in here will point that out to me. I hope I am wrong.

BTW,
WTO has announced the following:

"WTO sees 9% global trade decline in 2009 as recession strikes

The collapse in global demand brought on by the biggest economic downturn in decades will drive exports down by roughly 9% in volume terms in 2009, the biggest such contraction since the Second World War, WTO economists forecast today (25 March 2009). “Trade can be a potent tool in lifting the world from these economic doldrums. In London G20 leaders will have a unique opportunity to unite in moving from pledges to action and refrain from any further protectionist measure which will render global recovery efforts less effective,” said Director-General Pascal Lamy"

downturn comparable only to WWII. Wow.

Originally posted by on_yur_6
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It normally does lead to war. The more desparate a nation you can bet on an extreme reaction to survive. As others have said, this has repeated itself over and over throughout history.

As long as we humans live according to the past, history will repeat itself. When humans will learn to live in the present of their conscience, they will be free of history, and memory of the human race.
Humans base their whole life on what happened in the past. They need to change the repeating trends by letting go with the past.

don't listen to their shenanigans. TPTB want you freakiing out, looking at stats etc. Who cares? live and love, and theres no need to goto war. Like Elliott said, screw the elites dont listen to them. If Brits dont take out debt so what? less debt for Brits is a good thing. Less debt for anyone is. Don't let them bug you out. A relaxed person is a better, smarter, harder working one than a tweaked out one, b/c that will lead to exhaustion.

its gona lead to war anyway. This is a carbon copy of the 1930's with the recession which led to a depression which then led to a war. What they dont tell you is how profittable war is, its the only thing that will sort out the economy. This news article is a spin on what is really happening, they say it wll lead to civil unrest and cause a war, but this has really already been planned all along.

It could lead to a war alright.

Against GREEDY, CORRUPT, CAPITALIST bankers and their chums in politics who hold us hostage and through sheer incompetence make us pay for their mistakes.

Now that's a war actually worth fighting.

[edit on 25/3/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]

Govt doesnt give a damnabout what the citizens think.
If they want to go to war, they will go to war.

"Could lead to War"?

That sounds more like a threat.

IMF could actually come out nicely in that End.

They make money financing the war they helped to foment with a financially engineered meltdown of the world's currencies and then offer you a solution, the only solution; there way or no way at all?

I wonder what the 'people' or rather 'subjects' have to say about that?

More importantly, what are they going to Do about that?

Sometimes it takes a village to ^raise^ the curtain.

This is attracting quite an audience.

What will they do for themselves?

What really pisses me off is the possibliity that our elected and most likely Non-Native American President is giving away the treasury and could, without remourse, surrender our nation to the Chinese without a shot fired.

Wonder how the 'gold backed' Islamic Dinar is coming along?

IMF, World Bank, Central Banks of the world, Federal Reserve and the Bank for International Settlements don't appreciate the competition. They've held a deck of Aces for quite some time.

Bah Humbug...pesky Arabs trying to get in the currency racket and gold backed to boot! Next thing you know the Chinese will be doing the same thing.

Mossad.....yes boss?......any false flags laying around?......I'm sure we can come with something Sir.....go tell the CIA I want them in my office ASAP....I'm losing Control of Boardwalk and Park Place. Boss....yes Junior?....want me to pull out the hat? You mean the one with the 'trick'? uhu. That one doesn't seem to work anymore Master. What now? Give me the phone........yes, I'd like to order some chaos......how much you want to spend boss?.....who cares....thats what taxes are for lol....best insurance policy in the world!!

Sometimes even the Casino goes bust. The problem is, by that time, usually the 'shareholders' receive the bad news. Just ask your local GAO. Oh, I apologize, the GAO doesn't 'handle' money laundering. That's a little OVER their head. NSA keeps a tight leash. They don't like competition either. I hear they're quite lonely over there. As far as the GAO is concerned, they're not exactly prime time; more like PBS during Red eye.

Even a deck of Aces can't beat a Royal Flush.

As a consequence of the currency crisis in Asia, in the first part of 1997, then Prime Minister of Malaysia Mahathir bin Mohamad proposed introduction of Islamic gold dinar as currency for international trade in the Muslim world. It was intended to replace the United States dollar and, as a gold-based currency, provide a medium of exchange more stable than the dollar. Mahathir announced that Malaysia was to start using the dinar in mid-2003, but when in 2003 Abdullah Ahmad Badawi replaced him as Prime Minister of Malaysia, this idea was halted.

Gold back Islamic Dinar?

But wait a minute, where does that leave the fractional reserve sys-tem?

Got Draino? Whatever you do.....don't look down and close the lid when your through.







[edit on 25-3-2009 by Perseus Apex]

Here's a clip showing Brown getting quite a tongue-lashing

**VIDEO** BRITISH PM SAVAGED AT EU MEET: 'YOU HAVE RUN OUT OF OUR MONEY!'
'PATHOLOGICALLY UNABLE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY'...

Source : The Drudge Report

I have come to the conclusion that either I am 100% dumbstruck regarding how the world operates, or that the people of a country never truly have freedoms.

Because we can act like we have all this stuff, but when things hit the wall - they are just taken back or we are ignored.

If there is going to be any war, it will be fought by the idiots. The reason I DO think an army will turn on its own citizens is because of the job security they have, the power, and the lack of intelligence many soldiers have to think on a grander scale.

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[edit on 25-3-2009 by awakentired]

Originally posted by Common Good
Itmay costs billions if not trillions to spend on war, but how much money do you think it would take for us to hit that shiny red button>? And the same goes for other countries as well. We all have that little red button,

Don't forget OBAMA is in control of that button! Would he press it ..even to save America and our freedom?

Non Native..who know's his loyalties?

Originally posted by kosmicjack
Of course it will.

That's how empires solve a financial crisis. History 101.

they have to actually win said war , and against countries with nuclear/chemical or biological weapons that isn`t going to be easy. when a rich country see`s another , militarily powerful but economically fecked country making a land grab - when push comes to shove they`ll use what they can to stop them.


saudi will be on the near future invasion list i bet ya.

Originally posted by awakentired
What really pisses me off is the possibliity that our elected and most likely Non-Native American President is giving away the treasury and could, without remourse, surrender our nation to the Chinese without a shot fired.

I think the arrogant american who continues to live beyond its means is therefore more likely to fire a shot, or believe that a first strike cenario is best. America has taken loans they don't tend to payback. We're seeing this as a manner of this crisis. It's "rob till you die", and we should be careful which mob family we are in front of, and borrowing from the chinese mafia ain't gonna be a good thing.

Originally posted by TheComte
But, we're already fighting a number of wars.

The war in Afghanistan: not going well.
The war in Iraq: not going well.
The war on drugs: not going well.
The war on poverty: not going well.

At least we're winning the war on the environment. Yaaay!

[edit on 24-3-2009 by TheComte]

Quickly No!, Your on track for humans freezing before choking and imploding. You should ask for gas mask, it will allow you to at least look like you had some idea you would lose.