3-Spoked UFO photographed by STS-115! The Smoking Gun?

reply to post by Phage


well... if it is ice, how could it just 'flake off' and withstand the speed of the space shuttle in orbit which is about 17,580 miles/hour


Sorry, I don't buy the 'ice' theory. NASA said it 'appears' to be ice, they didn't say "and what you just saw speeding at 17,580 miles an hour was ice from the orbiter."

I have to say this looks very similar to the videos of objects captured by the guy with the telescope John Walson. So, maybe some confirmation that what he's photographing really are flying around in low Earth orbit.



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reply to post by Komodo


In the video from STS-121, the closeup shows quite clearly that it is ice. It has been observed on several missions.

reply to post by mikesingh


Nice post. My reply is in the UFO/ET range so I hope the moderator allows it.

Head over briefly, if you will, to Linda Howe's Earthfiles site and read about some of the cattle mutilations recently in Colorado.

One is described as particularly unique, of a nature she has not seen before. A very interesting report.

Originally posted by RING0
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Looks like a reflection of light from the view port, behind the camera operator.

Interesting comment. I have seen this video before and it is intriguing. The problem with your suggestion/hypothesis is that the 3-pointed thing rotates. The view of the fuel tank should rotate just as the threee pointed thingy does.

I wondered if the 3 pointed thingy was not very close to the camera but to me it does not look like it.

Life is everywhere.

It's amazing.

Behold the incomprehensible beauty of creation!

Originally posted by TH3ON3
I have to say this looks very similar to the videos of objects captured by the guy with the telescope John Walson. So, maybe some confirmation that what he's photographing really are flying around in low Earth orbit.



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The objects that john walson captures are a hell of a lot bigger than the object in this video.

personally i think its nothing.....i think smoking gun and absolute proof and all that other attention grabbing headline stuff is being used very loosely around here lately
any body agree?

I took a screen shot of that thing and messed with the contrast, brightness, saturation and temperature for quite some time. I'm just not sure what it is.
I don't think it is a flare or a reflection though because the thing moves in unison with the tank. Counter-clockwise.

I suppose it could be ice.

If it isn't ice though, we are looking at some sort of extremely luminous object. So much so that I could never at any time see any definitive edges on it.

Even when it is moving across what otherwise appears as a dark blue ocean, the thing's luminosity is so great you can't really get a defined look at any edges.
I'm leaning towards a clump of ice.


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I too think it is a reflection.

But, assuming it is a UFO, do you think they have really nothing more intelligent to do, after traveling half the milky way, as to fly behind a dropped tank?

Originally posted by Phage
Another video with ice shed from the orbiter.

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Ice crystals at 1:56 and 4:01 people. The narrator even mentions them.




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Originally posted by Komodo
reply to post by Phage

 

well... if it is ice, how could it just 'flake off' and withstand the speed of the space shuttle in orbit which is about 17,580 miles/hour


Sorry, I don't buy the 'ice' theory. NASA said it 'appears' to be ice, they didn't say "and what you just saw speeding at 17,580 miles an hour was ice from the orbiter."

See above video for more ice crystals.

Originally posted by looofo
I too think it is a reflection.

But, assuming it is a UFO, do you think they have really nothing more intelligent to do, after traveling half the milky way, as to fly behind a dropped tank?

Maybe they, the aliens, are doing it on purpose. "Messing with our heads" so to say. There have got to be renagades flying some of the ufo's. It makes sense dosen't it?

I think it's just a satellite, like maybe one of these:




Or one of these:








Or maybe even one of these:

Tactical Satellite

Anyway, that's my 2 cents.

The "object" in the OP looks like a lens flare.
The "object" seems to move/shake the same as the camera, this makes it look like it is stuck on the camera gliding over the lens,,or viewport.
I am sure there must be some kind of tracking software availible to find out what is happening here.

My 2 cents.

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I too think it's a lens flare but if I was an alien I would be very interested in the tank. They would wonder why the creatures from the blue planet would expend resource throwing a large object into space, only to throw it back again!

(Goes back to my idea of building a space station from used fuel tanks).

I'm the last person to be a nay saying skeptic but that "UFO" is commonly referred to as a "kick" in the television business. It is a reflection of sunlight. And it is kicking through 2 pane glass. There are two images of the same thing offset by a slight margin. I would estimate that the space between the 2 panes of glass is about 1/4".

We used to get the exact same thing when shooting interviews in office buildings with double pane glass. Sorry to burst your bubble. I wish it was real.

Originally posted by Komodo
reply to post by Phage

 

well... if it is ice, how could it just 'flake off' and withstand the speed of the space shuttle in orbit which is about 17,580 miles/hour


Sorry, I don't buy the 'ice' theory. NASA said it 'appears' to be ice, they didn't say "and what you just saw speeding at 17,580 miles an hour was ice from the orbiter."

Any separating particles would possess the same amount of inertia as the object it was breaking away from. So, in effect, yes it would be roughly around 17,000 mph.

Also, space is a micro-gravity vacuum-like environment. Water freezes almost instantly and to a very high density. The ice we find in our homes for example is nothing at all like the incredibly solid ice regularly jettisoned or broken away from a craft entering orbit.

Simple, every day materials suddenly take on some VERY interesting properties when introduced into that sort of environment. (Water only being one of them.)

However, I don't believe what we are seeing in this video is ice at all. It looks to be a reflection of the interior flood light from the flight deck console behind the view port.

EDIT: I forgot to add that if it is an object attached by tether to anything behind the view port, it would most likely rotate in a similar way. (Many objects are often tethered to consoles and even the astronauts, pens, lenses, instruments, whatever)

The number of possible mundane explanations seems to outweigh - by a significant margin - that the artifact is representative of any sort of alien/extraterrestrial involvement.

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I took this photo of a "craft" that was above NYC late last year. It looks kind of like the pic the OP posted. I found this on a webcam..

www.earthcam.com...

So what do we have so far? Lens flare, ice crystal, reflection, space debris. But no one mentioned John Lear's super secret satellites in orbit! Or John Lenard Walson's mini space stations of the secret US space program! Hmmm...

Cheers!

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I don't know, man. I mean, if you simply move the scroll forward and back on the video you can clearly see that this object moves in unison with the fuel tank.
That would lead me to believe that it broke away from the shuttle at the same time as the tank and is tumbling in like manner.

That and the fact that I can't see any lines on the object.
To me it seems that a chunk of ice breaking off at the same time while also being illuminated by the sun may look precisely like this. And there seems to be video that backs that idea up.

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Mike, thanks for the thread but maybe you should read it as someone did mention Walson's satellites.

Either way what's the point of your comment - no-one mentioned that it could be a remote controlled plane either ?