Apollo 11 Armrstrong “These babies were huge, sir!”

I just saw a commercial for a special called 'moonshot' not sure if its on discovery or history channel, but you hear someone say 'these babies were huge, sir'

so, they might actually get into the sighting. i think it airs like july 7th. not sure on date though

reply to post by ArMaP


(Standing and applauding you, ArMaP!!!)

Ah, darn it!!! All of those "Moon Hoax" enthusiasts are gonna be well peeved!!!

They're not gonna be much fun, any more.

Originally posted by ArMaP

I suppose this is not what you wanted, right?

No sir...

The First Lunar Landing
Corrected Transcript and Commentary Copyright © 1995 by Eric M. Jones.

I have little use for any 'corrected' version of any transcript, but thanks I had that one

What is there is a simple text on a web page...

what I want is the one that looks like THIS (though one has to wonder why a supposedly publicly broadcast transmission transcript would need to be 'confidential' in the first place The date stamp says it was cleared 2/3/1976 :wow

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7947ee4f8c43.png[/atsimg]

www.jsc.nasa.gov...

See all the confidential marks on it? All the clearance notations? That is an original version. I have not seen one for Apollo 11 though I do have a section of the debriefing log that is interesting





I see Herr Weedwacker jumping with glee prematurely again

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[edit on 4-7-2009 by zorgon]

Originally posted by weedwhacker
They're not gonna be much fun, any more.

Well I can always join Mike and leave you to your bliss I am sure many would be happy about that

You DID notice that it said CORRECTED on the front page of ArMaP's link?

Why would you need to 'correct' a transcript of an actual conversation



[edit on 4-7-2009 by zorgon]

Originally posted by zorgon
No sir...

I thought so, it would be too easy if it was.

See all the confidential marks on it? All the clearance notations? That is an original version.

Yes, I have seen that type of "rubber stamp collection" in another NASA document some days ago.

i dont get why, if aliens are real, that the government keeps them secret. no matter when they tell us people will be freaked out

reply to post by zorgon

You DID notice that it said CORRECTED on the front page of ArMaP's link?

Yeah. However, as I read through the notes I was given the impression that it was merely to clarify some of the more garbled words from the recordings, that may have been mis-heard the first time?

I was most interested in the linkys to .wav files, though. I like to listen, even to the nerdy stuff.

Although, at first blush, I didn't see remarks about the huge babies....

EDIT: z, I think your time-slip is showing...! Cute!



[edit on 4 July 2009 by weedwhacker]

Just a quick thank you to ALL who have participated in this discussion - we got a mention in the latest UFO Magazine.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
Although, at first blush, I didn't see remarks about the huge babies....

Hense the 'corrected' version... but to hear that conversation you would need the transcripts from the OTHER channel

My old CB radio had 23 channels... you don't seriously want people to believe that you go all the way to the moon with only ONE radio and only ONE channel?

I mean I know NASA is struggling for bucks, but since they can afford to give 11 million to Wheeling Jesuit Universty, surely they could have afforded a good radio. Heck even an old WWII tank radio would have worked and you can pick those up for about $150.00



www.cq-amateur-radio.com...

They really worked well as a HAM station... even if they di have bands that went beyond public channels... but I wouldn't know about that

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reply to post by zorgon

Armstrong: What was it? What the hell was it? That’s all I want to know!
Mission Control: What’s there? Malfunction (garble).Mission Control calling Apollo 11
Apollo 11: These babies were huge, sir!.... Enormous!... Oh God! You wouldn’t believe it!....I’m telling you there are other space-craft out there…lined up on the far side of the crater edge!...They’re on the Moon watching us!

This is just a snippet I've bumped out of the OP, first page.

Can anyone who is familiar with A) how real transcripts are written and, B) how Astronauts (and pilots, since they were ALL pilots) actually talk?


No? Well, allow me, please.


Here's this 'example':

...(garble).Mission Control calling Apollo 11...

Something right out of the "Thunderbirds Are Go!!", that schlock (yet compellingly cute) British puppet show from the 1960s....

AND, this:

...These babies were huge, sir!.... Enormous!... Oh God!...

"sir"???? "Oh God"????? Yeah, that is certainly in line with the common utterances of a professional fighter/test pilot!!! IN A NEW Bruce Willis "Die Hard XXVII" movie script, maybe...

I could go on savaging the OP....but, it's been so amusing, let's see where it keeps going....

reply to post by zorgon


Oh...the old R3-D1 unit? I remember those...back when I was nailing swamp rats with my starfighter!!

Yeah....I owe Yoda one, for those good ole' days, ya betcha!

So you land on the moon... just barely as it is with seconds of fuel left and you expect to be alone... and you look out the window and see a fleet of huge alien spacecraft parked.

Yup they would certainly keep to the check lists and main calm. John is also a pilot...yet I have heard him many times make exclamations that are not 'by the book'

According to the NASA air safety study that they tried to keep hidden most pilots are drunk when flying... at least the commercial ones. (That was why they wanted to hide the report ) Had congress not stepped in they would have buried it like they do everything else

Some seem to think that a license to fly a plane somehow make one less human



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reply to post by zorgon


You aren't suggesting that Neil and Buzz sneaked a bit of the ole' fun juice aboard, I hope??

Or, to suggest they were 'buzzed' for the three days since lift-off....one hell of a bender, it would take!

Comeon, you know exactly what I meant! "Mission Control calling Apollo 11"

THAT is 'b' movie science fiction stuff....

AND....the phrase "These babies were huge"??

Two different tenses....sure, stress...but, usually that sort of 'chatter', if it happens, is part of the release of built-up tension, AFTER the fact. Other than the occasional grunted expletive when under pressure, or intense concentration...

NOW, I know....off channel, casual conversation on the secure frequency not heard by the public...OK, will buy that. BUT the verbiage? They knew CapCom by name, as did he know them...."Mission Control" my arse!!

Originally posted by weedwhacker
You aren't suggesting that Neil and Buzz sneaked a bit of the ole' fun juice aboard, I hope??

THAT is 'b' movie science fiction stuff....

Well why don't you listen to how Buzz ACTUALLY talks...


the cool thing is here he talks about the big babies as 'computer glitches' that made them land somewhere else with only 15 seconds of fuel...

And about that drinking

Ask an Astronaut: Buzz Aldrin Part 2



Doesn't sound like your average 'pilot chatter' to me In fact he seems very cautious about his words



[edit on 4-7-2009 by zorgon]

reply to post by zorgon


Thanks for the videos.

I dunnno....don't hear what you seem to, he's talking to laypeople in layperson's terminology, after all. Did you see his Larry King interview, vis a vis the 'UFO' during Apollo 11? He seemed delighted, then, to get into the technical details more...

the cool thing is here he talks about the big babies as 'computer glitches' that made them land somewhere else with only 15 seconds of fuel...

Well, what's discussed in that "cleaned up" transcript in the comments that are added in is that the AutoPilot was sending them long. Now, I can somewhat imagine what it could have been like, the descent from orbit to the landing...it wasn't a helicopter, with a lot of freedom of maneuverability and good visibility out the windows...and I don't guess the LM could hover much either, it was a matter of slowing the descent rate and the horizontal translation relative to the surface so that it all came together for the touchdown as within limits vertically, with minimal sideways motion. One engineer comments that a drop from just ten feet would have possibly over-stressed the design limits of the landing struts.

The comments also point out the inadvisablity of allowing the vehicle to travel backwards, when there was no way to see what was behind you, without taking the time to yaw around so your windows would point in the direction...remember they talked about "West Crater" and "East Crater"...didn't want one landing strut in a crater, needed to be level as possible for the lift off.

I thought they had less than 15 seconds of fuel...but, in any case, they always had the 'bingo' point where they would have had to abort and save their butts, but that would have been terribly disappointing.

And about that drinking...

Well, fighter and test pilots? Notorious. 'Buzz' did go a little deep, in the years since. But I won't sit here and speculate as to why, except to say after accomplishing THE most incredible adventure of a lifetime...."What's Next?"



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reply to post by pieman

If you were an intelligent humanoid-shaped species that originated
on another planet of another star,but has been based here on earth
for ten thousand years as an exploitation program,you would disguise
yourself if were nessasary to prevent paranoid natives to capture and kill your efforts.
But, after your host natives develop an industry of sufficient degree of sophistication,
with communication spread-out to a level of speed and content,then it's time to
loosen-up a bit and quit hiding as much of your activities.Military alarm has to be always
prevented.
In the 60's there was a case investigated by J. Allen Hynek for blue book that was not explained away or stuffed up someone's butt like Sandy Burger;It was the Officer Schirmer case of nebraska,where a disc is seen adsorbing power from a high-power line by a state trooper.After being stopped and taken aboard, the officer asked the
"Aliens" why they "don't announce their presence"."Don't you want people to believe in you?" The answer was allegedly somewhat reveiling:"We want people to believe in us,
just NOT TOO MUCH."(apparently they are used to encountering some that worship
them.) and:"Your people are very HOSTILE,You wouldn't shoot a spacecraft would you?
(some people may have shot at them as they fly over.)
Perhaps they only want our awareness without interference in their activity.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by zorgon

 

Armstrong: What was it? What the hell was it? That’s all I want to know!
Mission Control: What’s there? Malfunction (garble).Mission Control calling Apollo 11
Apollo 11: These babies were huge, sir!.... Enormous!... Oh God! You wouldn’t believe it!....I’m telling you there are other space-craft out there…lined up on the far side of the crater edge!...They’re on the Moon watching us!

This is just a snippet I've bumped out of the OP, first page.

Can anyone who is familiar with A) how real transcripts are written and, B) how Astronauts (and pilots, since they were ALL pilots) actually talk?


No? Well, allow me, please.


Here's this 'example':

...(garble).Mission Control calling Apollo 11...

Something right out of the "Thunderbirds Are Go!!", that schlock (yet compellingly cute) British puppet show from the 1960s....

AND, this:

...These babies were huge, sir!.... Enormous!... Oh God!...

"sir"???? "Oh God"????? Yeah, that is certainly in line with the common utterances of a professional fighter/test pilot!!! IN A NEW Bruce Willis "Die Hard XXVII" movie script, maybe...

I could go on savaging the OP....but, it's been so amusing, let's see where it keeps going....

There's another problem with Armstrong's alleged dialogue: it's just not him.

If aliens had sucked his craft into their ship and ripped his crew mates apart in front of him, he would have made a note in pencil in the flight mission margins and then checked his speed and altitude.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by zorgon

 

Thanks for the videos.

I dunnno....don't hear what you seem to, he's talking to laypeople in layperson's terminology, after all. Did you see his Larry King interview, vis a vis the 'UFO' during Apollo 11? He seemed delighted, then, to get into the technical details more...

yeah indeed... lot of technical jargon there..... aka "prosaic mundane'ty" BS....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by weedwhacker
Well, fighter and test pilots? Notorious. 'Buzz' did go a little deep, in the years since. But I won't sit here and speculate as to why, except to say after accomplishing THE most incredible adventure of a lifetime...."What's Next?"

How about this?
www.starbooster.com...

and this (page 9)
www.gravwave.com...

To bad Gravwave is doing their research with the CHINESE

Originally posted by weedwhacker
"sir"???? "Oh God"????? Yeah, that is certainly in line with the common utterances of a professional fighter/test pilot!!! IN A NEW Bruce Willis "Die Hard XXVII" movie script, maybe...

"Common utterances"...? Seeing alien crafts while you're on the moon is hardly a "common" experience. It's an unimaginable experience, therefore neither you or I or anyone else can imagine how Armstrong would react.