Report: Russia may base bombers in Cuba

Report: Russia may base bombers in Cuba

www.msnbc.msn.com

MOSCOW - Russian strategic bombers may be based in Cuba in the future, a Russian Air Force chief told Interfax news agency on Saturday.

Chief of staff of Russia's long range aviation Maj. Gen. Anatoly Zhikharyev was quoted as saying Cuba has air bases with four or five suitable runways.

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I wonder how this relates to the goings on in Iran and the Russians are looking for a place closer to the US. I think there is more to this than runway space. Maybe as this is a breaking story, more will be added to it today.

I don't remember when this happened back in the 60's, but I've heard it. Doesn't really give me the warm fuzzies.

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Man this is a crazy statement.
Its most certainly purposely provocative.
What is coming I wonder?
This is scary.
You have Chinese, having scraps with US warships in Asia.
And Russians basing nuclear bombers in Cuba?
This makes no sense, except a planned threat, to instate a global police state.
Obama will come in, look like the peace keeper.
And everyone will do as they are told.
The only thing, the only thing, that's going to stop this now.
Is brave men dying.
And I don't think there is enough brave men.
Because psychologically they have conditioned most men, to be cowards.
Oh, and star and flagged mam, thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[edit on 14-3-2009 by BorgHoffen]

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You are welcome.

I don't like the sounds of it. I think neither Obama in office now and the fact we shot down an Iranian drone over Iraq last month is making anything better.

www.foxnews.com...

"An American fighter jet took down an Iranian drone over Iraq last month, U.S. military sources told Wired.com.

The U.S. has long accused Tehran of supplying militant groups in Iraq with weapons and training, Wired reported. While the flow of Iranian weapons into Iraq has slowed, Shiite militias have fired Iranian rockets at U.S. troops and Sunni militias reportedly use Iranian bombs to destroy U.S. military vehicles."

Another chapter being written....

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For all the talk of Iranian weapons being used to kill US troops in Iraq, the US government has been unable to provide any evidence. Faux News and others keep dredging up this old line but never provide anything but the same old innuendo and assumptions.

As for the Iranian drone incident, there has not, as far as I have seen anywhere, been any evidence shown to identify it as Iranian, just assumptions.

Originally posted by opal13
reply to post by BorgHoffen

 

The U.S. has long accused Tehran of supplying militant groups in Iraq with weapons and training, Wired reported. While the flow of Iranian weapons into Iraq has slowed, Shiite militias have fired Iranian rockets at U.S. troops and Sunni militias reportedly use Iranian bombs to destroy U.S. military vehicles."

But how else can the Iraqi's fight back without weapons? Surely they have to get bombs/guns/rockets etc from somewhere, so why not Iran?

It's just the same as US funding Israel to massacre the palestinians, so why shouldn't the Iraqi's have a figthing chance against the Americans?

All is fair in love and war.

At the moment, this looks like a simple political provocation and not a real threat. Saying you can do a thing is very different than actually doing the thing.

For whatever our economic troubles, I highly doubt Russia (or China, for that matter) intend to whack the bee hive just yet.

[edit on 14-3-2009 by loam]

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seems to me that Russia is doing this on basis of orders from China , Russia may be most powerful military power on world due to scalar weapons,underground cities and nukes , but financially it is controlled by China and possibly even rothschild , even Putin stopped Rothschild from taking over Yukos

Russia is China's attack dog

It has been said, "history repeats itself" -

Cuban Missile Crisis

The Cuban Missile Crisis was a confrontation between the United States, the Soviet Union, and Cuba in the early 1960s during the Cold War. In Russia, it is termed the "Caribbean Crisis" (Russian: Карибский кризис, Karibskiy krizis), while in Cuba it is called the "October Crisis". The crisis ranks with the Berlin Blockade as one of the major confrontations of the Cold War, and is generally regarded as the moment in which the Cold War came closest to a nuclear war.

The critical crisis phase was preceded by deployment of Jupiter and Thor medium-range ballistic missiles, which was performed by US Air Force at 5 sites near İzmir, Turkey, in 1961. These MRBM were able to carry thermonuclear warheads and had operating ranges up to 1500 miles. This created an important threat to many cities and industrial and military facilities of the Soviet Union, including Moscow.

Source : Wikipedia

Which brings to mind another old saying, "those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it."

Originally posted by sadchild01
reply to post by loam

 

seems to me that Russia is doing this on basis of orders from China , Russia may be most powerful military power on world due to scalar weapons,underground cities and nukes , but financially it is controlled by China and possibly even rothschild , even Putin stopped Rothschild from taking over Yukos

Russia is China's attack dog

Why did I just know you would be in this thread talking your usual rubbish about Russia being the greatest with their magical weapons Give it a rest, seriously.....every time the words "russia" or "china" are mentioned in a thread title it's guaranteed that you'll be all over it like an unpleasant rash.

Anyhoo, Russia is also quoted as saying these plans are purely hypothetical - the leadership seems to be distancing itself from the issue. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but lets not get carried away

Venezuela also temporarily offers island site as Moscow eyes Caribbean

I don't have anything to say.

This seems like it would be a response to our missile sites going up
around the western edge of Russia. I can't say that I would blame them for going this route, as we are surrounding their homeland with missile launch sites.

I'm surprised that Russia have a sense of humour.

US is getting trolled by Russia. Classic.

This just might be some kind of response or leverage to that
whole strategic missile deffense plan. Haven't heard much about it recently, but I know Russia was up in arms about it.

That whole not in my backyard retoric..


Star for mpriebe81
I do make it a point to read all posts before responding, my mouse wheel must have glitched. Great minds think a like

[edit on 14-3-2009 by Mogwomp]

Originally posted by MacDonagh
I'm surprised that Russia have a sense of humour.

US is getting trolled by Russia. Classic.

That's how it seems to me lol. I don't see the need for russia to put bombers in cuba or anywhere near there when they have a stockpile of ICBMs.

S&F, absolutely an essential read.

I frankly don't like the rise in Cold War rhetoric coming out of Russia. It is likely caused by two factors:

1) Testing the resolve of the Obama Administration and seeing how far Russia can push without a push back. The Bush line was drawn over the missile defense radar facilities in Eastern Europe. Now, since Obama has gone back on this, Russia can push the envelope.

OR

2) Russia, suffering in a great way from the economic problems (having had to close their markets for fear of a total collapse on several occasions), is moving out its military in order to pursue expansionist policies. These will come in the way of incursions into Eastern Europe to secure the Ukrainian pipeline along with many of the smaller struggling Baltic states. These planes in the western hemisphere is a statement that the United States should not intervene in the Eastern Hemisphere.

(Or both?)

I recommend, to those of you who don't know about it already, to read the following, regarding the Monroe Doctrine and its corollaries:

Monroe Doctrine

Again, good post, and a very important topic!

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Could it be that this is an example of why Russia wants the U.S. Air base in Kyrgyzstan closed down? If having bombers that close to our border makes us nervous imagine how they feel. I understand that the Russians have been trying to get that base (Manas?) closed down and it is in fact scheduled to be closed? Maybe an example of the If, Then scenario. If the Air Base is not closed down Then we will station bombers in Cuba.

it's all coming back ...

Is there a particular reason why the US. can have a string of military bases - some with tactical nuclear capacity - close to Russia's borders, but when Russia aims at setting one up at Cuba, alarm bells go off?

It's not like they're even remotely capable of inflicting the kind of damage Uncle Sam could inflict on them.

The problem with playing world dominating superpower is that sooner or later, someone's going to take you up on it.

Always thought that US last war would be with Cuba. Heard this guy on a late night radio talk show many years ago talking about it. For some reason of all the things people predict this one really stuck in my head.To bad his name didnt...lol