Official Obama Deception Video

Originally posted by alienesque

Originally posted by owlseleven
He simply takes publicly available information that the majority of people are too lazy to find on their own

he never claims to do anything else...thats EXACTLY what he says he does..hes always saying that anyone can find these things..but that most people dont have the time or are lazy...and saying he bends things is a bit odd...if rockerfeller says he and others are working towards world government..and AJ shares this information..then..erm..whats wrong with that...?..people should know these things...

i agree sometimes hes off the mark..but all things considered hes doing us all a favour...

You're absolutely right and I actually want to clarify a couple misleading things I said. For the record, I'm an Alex Jones Fan, so it was stupid of me to imply that his fans are delusional followers. It's not that people are too "lazy" in most cases either. The majority of people are too busy with their jobs, families, etc. to keep up with media generated world and he's an excellent aggregator of alternative information. Just from reading this thread, I can tell that there are a lot of fans out there like me who are aware that he tends to exaggerate things and so forth, but still enjoy his show because it's very interesting. I love his energy and it has helped me, not on a micro level, but on a macro level, be much more aware of certain propaganda elements in our culture. You guys know what I mean, so I won't bore you with all the details. Whether I agree with many of his conclusions or not is really irrelevant to the value of the show to me because he's putting forth a perspective that you just don't hear everyday in mainstream life. I realize that many people who are genuinely emotionally invested in a "truth" movement of some variety might disagree with my following statement, but it's also irrelevant to me whether he's a complete conman or not. I'm perfectly comfortable listening to anyone and leaving with my own mind intact. Enjoying the thread...

[edit on 13-3-2009 by owlseleven]

Originally posted by BlasteR

Originally posted by RFBurns

Thats the thing, you have to buy the DVD version, or someone has to, then they throw it up on U-Bloobe or Googley-video and then it is free after that.

Ya AJ should offer them up on infowars, but oddly enough, he does not and has not ever since making productions like this.

So much for free information...always someone has to fork over the dough to pay for that fancy bunker of AJ's.


Cheers!!!!

See, this is what really irks me..
Everyone sais that he offers the movies for free. No he doesn't (apparently).. Other people post them up on youtube after they buy the original DVD's right? If he really offered them for free I would be able to go to his website (without having to pay a ridiculous subscription fee) and download them for free. Only the DVD quality videos are nowhere on his site and the only way to see the low-mid quality movies, in the video section of his website, seems to be to buy a subscription to his website? I don't think you can even access the videos on prisonplanet.tv without being a subscriber.

I know Alex Jones encourages everyone to post his videos all over the internet and stuff (from what I've heard) but isn't that just because someone somewhere either gave him money to buy the DVD or gave him money to register on his site and download it?

He always sais on his radio show that he always offers his videos for free but if they are nowhere on his website then where are they? The only videos I've seen are online (usually horrible low to mid quality) and pretty much always posted by other people for their own reasons. SURE he might offer them for free on his website.. AFTER you pay a subscription fee? WOW!

I really do not hate AJ.. I listen to his radio show probably once a week when i get the time. But I think he should stop lying about offering his videos freely and stop lying about making money off of said videos. That's the only way people get the movies to begin with?!!

-ChriS







[edit on 12-3-2009 by BlasteR]

I'm really sick and tired of reading this crap in every other post. What if just one single person paid 20 bucks or whatever it costs and spreads it all over the internet so everyone else can watch it for free? Wow, what a money-making machine. I'm pretty sure he's not making a big profit off these movies, if he makes any at all. Then you have people complaining about the quality of the video, it's really amazing.
Why can't people just look at the facts being presented and stick to that instead of getting into these stupid arguments over why you can watch it for free or who made it possible? If people think he's a nutjob, please, feel free to do so. But I thought this thread was supposed to be about the material and the facts presented in this movie. I know I don't make the rules but I would like to see everyone focus on the material instead of constantly talking about things that have nothing to do with the movie itself.

Originally posted by Republican08
Well I just watched the one you have up here.

But not what I expected at all, it makes some good points.

Also Bush didn't make endless amounts of wars, he made two, I dont like the exagoration.

What exactly did you expect? Did you happen to notice the many other facts stated regarding Bush dumping on the entire American nation, aside from the "endless wars" comment? Perhaps exaggeration is necessary because it's becoming more and more obvious that people aren't listening to the basic facts. What's next?

There may be a few things overstated, but I think it's simply in effort to get people to listen. At least watch the entire video before you form a negative opinion. It's not about whether or not you believe the information, it's about the knowledge of possibility. It's all research.


Cheers.

- Strype

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ever hear of ENKI? ancient sumerian god, called the "Tricky" god and the defiant god and so forth (some theorize he's the equivalent of the biblical serpent in the garden of eden, for example, since his temple was not far from where the garden was supposedly located, it kinda makes sense). anyway, there's a story written about him that dates to the sumerian-akkadian time frame called ENKI AND THE WORLD ORDER.

he was supposedly the architect of human civilization, founding and master minding Sumer from the first "city" of Eridu, which later was the site of the Tower of Babel. interesting, no? wonder if there's a connection.

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RFBurns I agree with you on alot of things, but this time
why don't you just blow it out the back door.

Free on the "technical" term is not what is at discussion here.

Why don't you discuss what it's all about? Are you afraid of the message?

You own small buisnesses, I would be very afraid if I were you.

I needed to start one at the end of last summer, now I sit here with plans and are screwed unless things pick up. I seriously doubt I will get the chance.

Please, lets not get hung up on something that really does not have merit to discuss with this important agenda.



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Wow people! Lets shoot the messenger!

Copy and paste? If he didn't have all the evidence of stories, documents that go back to 1913 and heavy from 1963, you would call HOAX! NO SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS!

Obama people..............I am sorry, I had "hope" he would be something different. But in the end, he is full of Sh$t like the rest.

I have actually never seen anyone in that high of position, do the exact oppsite of what he says, and still get everyone waving the flag.
It just blows me away.

Alex Jones, might try to scare the hell out of everyone. He could be called a fearmonger.
But, in the end, it's really hard to look at history, examine the evidence, and call him a flat out liar. If you do, you are just pasteing BS.

Maybe, it's takes some real fear for people to wake up.





[edit on 13-3-2009 by j2000]

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Thats funny as hell, because i usually disagree with you j2000, but here I am in total agreement , what 200 people so far have watched it for maybe 20 bucks, if the original OP payed for it, wow AJ just rolling in the dough

I think I can speak for most people when I say I wanted Obama to be different, I wanted to feel safer in the world, I wanted to be able to trust those in power


Bring in the new boss, same as the old boss

[edit on 13-3-2009 by branty]

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Now that is funny!

It is amazing that this board does that.

We get a little passionate sometimes. Just look at my points, I am missing around 3000 or more. lol

I think more of us agree in principle than we think. Some of the details are a little off, but that should not stop us from concentraiting on what is "really" wrong with our country, and the world for that matter.

Anyone that denies that there is wealth controlling the power in this world, has some pretty good qualudes.

Originally posted by mkiii
reply to post by XXXN3O

 

XXXN3O, Alex can only legally say what is fact or opinion(which he has to disclaim by saying that it is his personal belief), but if he slanders someone and names names based on suspicion without documentation, he will lose everything.

These people have the best and most powerful lawyers and judges on their payroll, so what are the odds that he would win a court case? He would literally be sued for everything. His house, his car, his station, his equipment, his savings, his websites, his servers, EVERYTHING.

Slander is still a crime and damages can be awarded. The only defense against this is the proof of the truth, which the elite have been smart enough to insulate themselves from. This is why we have the frontmen, to prevent access to true power.

AJ is smart enough to understand this, so he will keep looking for the direct link, as I'm sure most of us will. If and when the smoking gun is found, I have faith that it will be revealed.

The point you are making, while it is true.

It is the same thing as basically saying that there is nothing you can do except sit down and watch his videos and be entertained.

If you knew how deep this is you would see what I am saying as he is steering you away from the part that is on your doorstep.

Either that is why it is allowed, or he is spreading disinfo for them be it unaware or aware.

In effect that makes almost all conspiracy theorists the same as this is doing nothing more than creating another smokescreen that people do not even realise they are doing.

Look at it this way, anyone can grab a speakerphone, produce videos and tell the masses it is the Bilderbergs, it is Obama, it is Osama, it is the Rockeffella's, it is fricken Mcdonalds and even give proof if need be in the form of papers, video evidence or whatever anyone needs to believe you if you try hard enough and persist.
Regardless of who is at the top of the tree pulling all these strings, inflicting all this global agenda, so on and so forth. What will you achieve in the end? Could you remove the problem?

Believe what you will, that is the choice that we all have but maybe one day you will see my point after he has released his 90th video with him in a rocking chair saying I told you so and you guys never listened. But how many people back at the start thought, what is this guys actual message that he wants us to hear?

I have a strong feeling that he will be arrested in the end, everyone will see that as evidence he was right and it will further blacken the truth. But the reality of it really is that regardless of how many followers he gets, no matter what happens to him, he has actually served to divert attention whether he knows it or not.

The true power is at the bottom and rises to the top and because of this it will never be stopped. It needs a miracle and thats the truth.


[edit on 13-3-2009 by XXXN3O]

At 1:50 of the video when the music begins... listen to the computer altered voice embedded within the music. Speed the sound up a bit and it sounds like "We will not eat their... ????." I can't make out the last word.

Originally posted by Bspiracy

Originally posted by doorbell412
Oh wow. Another video showing Obama as "evil"...

Whatever makes you happy. You can make as many documentaries and posts till your blue in the face. The fact is he is OFFICIALLY the president of the United states. He runs things now and nothing you say will change that.

DEAL WITH IT!

It's completely ignorant for you to say that. Watching this video has nothing to do with the fact Obama is president and you should deal with it.

How are you dealing with it btw? by just accepting Obama is going to run us into the ground and you might as well call "shotgun" and sit in the front seat? or do you work on the O Team ?

As far as "cut and paste" is concerened with this video from his others.. SOOO ? is the message STILL out there>? do you have the balls to send it to your friends or family or are you scared of what they will say? what about 2 years from now when your friends and family are all hurting terribly from the oppression the new laws will place on them? when you knew but didn't fight to tell them.. how will you feel?

there is a true message in this film and no where else will you find it so blunt and n your face so spread the word and quit bitching about insignificant points.

The overall quality of life depends on how well eveeryone here continues to ENDURE just like KRS1 mentioned.. keep fighting to get the message out and quit caring about what people THINK about you. In the end they will THANK you.

b

LOL. Now that is hilarious. It doesn't matter if you accept it or not. WE'RE BOTH GONNA BE ACCEPTING IT IN THE END just everyone else!!!!

We've been accepting it since JFK was assassinated.

And what do you mean sit back and watch? Nothing you or I do or say is going to change him from making his decisions or as you put it, "running us into the ground". If you look around, the media gets to control what they want the people to see and they eat it up like dogs.

Just face reality. When most people hear about stuff like America is falling, or try to get them to watch a video like this, they immediately label you as a whack job and go back doing whatever it is they were doing. They don't want to hear stuff like that. As long as their eating and in good health, they could care less.

Originally posted by BlackProject


Whoever is making these videos is rather making a pocket full or is against Obama taking the president position.

Like DD asked, did you even watch the video? Because if you did you would know that it was .....drumroll.....

FREE!

Sure, AJ does have donation links and you can 'buy' the DVD but he has always put his videos up on the web for all to see.

I may not agree with how he goes about dispersing his message at times (the rants and so on) but I think he did a great job on this one.

This whole past year I was trying to defend Obama and McCain against undue criticism and flat out lies. This was based simply on the basis that we needed to give them a chance in office first. Sure, it's only been 3 months but here is my problem with Obama.

He has broken lies and has filled his cabinet with the very people that he stated he was going to eliminate from government! It's a continuing scam. I have given him the benefit of the doubt but he has simply gone on doing the same thing that the previous presidents had done. It's over. If this doesn't make it clear who is running the show then I don't know what else to do for you who want to deflect and ignore.

The writing has been on the wall for a long time. It's time to consider cleaning it up.

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I love your realism. The one problem I have is, that, accompanied with your realism, is a lack of optimism.

"Evil only prospers when good men sit by and do nothing."

Then, with that in mind, when they "run things into the ground" and dominate us all on this planet, you can say to your self; "I did absolutely nothing about it, because hey...what can you do, right?"

Yeah, keep feeding yourself that cowardice excuse. Apparently it takes backbone to have backbone, and you my friend, have none!

reply to post by dariousg


Ah...I see you have got it. I for one, like many others, didn't have to wait for Obama to get into office to see him for what he is. Why? Well...it's all about knowing your history and knowing the facts. ANYONE who becomes the President of the US while certain entities exist, is NOT to be trusted, period.

I'll put it like this; if the elite were not in charge, Ron Paul would be President. But, if ever the day comes that Ron Paul becomes President, while these evil elite still call the shots, then Ron Paul too should not be trusted. In fact, anyone who is put to sit in that Presidential chair(or any chair for that matter) is placed there by them. And anyone in that chair should be eliminated. But, to really deal with a problem, fighting the symptoms gets you nowhere, we need to totally eradicate the problem...from the root!

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Originally posted by doorbell412

LOL. Now that is hilarious. It doesn't matter if you accept it or not. WE'RE BOTH GONNA BE ACCEPTING IT IN THE END just everyone else!!!!

We've been accepting it since JFK was assassinated.

... Nothing you or I do or say is going to change him from making his decisions or as you put it, "running us into the ground". ...

I'm sorry but there IS something you and I CAN do. It's called revolution. I hate the thought of it but I would rather we revolt and take the chance to bring this country back from the brink than simply lay back and watch reality TV while they put everyone into a deeper trance while a complete dictatorship is put in place.

Revolution does not mean war. At least not yet. We can stand up to these people. They can only put so many into camps before the general population will take notice. The general population will only believe so much that the MSM puts out there before they begin to question things. Because logic still does exist in most people deep down. To them the logic will spell out that there really can't be 20 million terrorists in this country. Or whatever the MSM will try to tell if that begins to happen. They will know it for a lie and that will eventually lead to the 'war' part of the revolution.

We can make a change. There are still those in congress that want what is right for this country. However they are becoming fewer so the time is getting a bit short. We need to make our voices heard. Loud and clear.

I just notice this post .
Seems like I going to watch all the videos and get back to you guys
I really would love to learn what is the deception about.

-Bayfin

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I just don't get why you sound so complacent.
I for one am NOT sitting back and relaxing and allowing this crap to happen. I contact political organizations, I donate to organizations I TALK TO PEOPLE and help them get past confusion. I have helped a few people wake up and make some decisions that have affected them and others. Eventually if this keeps happening, there will be o one else to wake up.

You on the other hand sound like someone who's just going to sit and peek around the corner while I and other people who actually give a crap DO try and do something about it. Whether it's a little bit or a lot, I am doing something.

I swear you sound like you're on the O Team with the attitude of "oh well, just let him do it and there's nothing you can do about it"

BS. get a life or at least start leading one or join others in creating a new one instead of letting the old one smack you in the arse

b

Well, here is my first response from a family member that I sent the video to. LOL

I'll post his reply in full first and then drop the bomb I just dropped on him.

"I don’t totally disregard this film and “some” of the statements that are being made. However, films like this can be made by anyone who want to push their own agenda’s and/or viewpoints. Give me a few days and any subject statement or proclamation you want and I could build a film totally backing that particular view up including so called facts backing up what I’m saying.



I don’t agree with everything Obama is doing or has done either. And I’ll agree he hasn’t completely kept all of his campaign promises. I am of the mindset though as the film iterates that the President of the United States is not completely in control. There is much that he cannot do nor cannot change. Either by lack of power, or creating such dissent in the government that everyone turns against him. The mess this Country is in didn’t happen overnight, nor can it be turned around overnight no matter who is in office.



I do however believe that he is attempting to make “some” positive changes. The rest I believe is being resisted by the powers that be. Now whether Obama is refusing to do things in fear of upsetting those powers or if he just doesn’t have the influence needed to pull them off I don’t know. As far as some of his cabinet choices, some of those choices I believe are being dictated by others to a certain extent. IE: Robert Gates, I believe many in government as well as political circles pushed that upon him. If you watched the news, talk shows, etc before cabinet was selected his name came up over and over and over again as something the new president should do “select him” as least temporarily. Both for so called Bi-Partisanship as well as for the security of the Nation.



Some of his other choices have been knocked down by Scandal or otherwise. Look at several of his choices that were knocked down because of Tax issues. Do you know how many Senators, Governors’ etc would be in trouble for the exact same thing if everyone was investigated to the extent that his cabinet choices were? Why is it these Tax issues only came up when he had nominated these people. Many of the Tax issues were 10yrs old or more? Give me a break. They came up because someone didn’t want those selections.



I fully believe things at least to a certain extent are being dictated for the President by others in government. And he will only be able to achieve so much either by political savvy or by such an outcry by the people that those in power cannot ignore it. Most Americans unfortunately think that the President has all this power, when reality is he actually has very little. And so far from what I have seen what little Power Obama does have I’ve seen him use it for change positive change. At least to the extent where it is politically feasible.



Again I say do I agree with him fully? Hell NO. But I beg the question is he “REALLY” the one in charge either? HELL NO. And I also believe he is keeping his well being and safety in mind as well by not rocking the “Boat too much” He is very well versed in History if you have listened to him. Don’t you think he knows what happened to Lincoln, Kennedy, and others who tried to bring about “drastic change” they were assassinated. I submit his self preservation mode is kicking in to a certain extent.



Is that Right? Should he be worried about that? That is and has been for a very long time the Sad state of our Country."

Okay, I agree with his final statements that maybe Obama is simply thinking of self preservation. I can see that.

But here is the kicker. And what I feel MOST family members or friends will do. I sent this to him at 1:07. He replied with this long email at 1:34! I thought the video was nearly 2 hours long!?

What he did was read the posts on the link and he got his perspective from that. He didn't watch one minute of the damn video. This is the battle we face. Trying to get the people who blindly follow to open their damn eyes for one second.

Americans have had plenty of chances to start a revolution. How come there wasn't one when the federal reserve was established, or when Kennedy was assassinated or 9/11?

How is there going to be much of a revolution when a good percentage of citizens will have already given up their weapons??? Considering how the vast majority sees Obama as a savior of this country, I'm sure they'll see no problem giving them up after listening to what he and the mainstream media has to say about it.

If you feel that you can take the present U.S. military head on, good luck to you on that, because that is exactly what you will be doing. Sure, it sounds patriotic, and you would have had a chance a long time ago, but in these times, it's suicide.



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Just my opinion , But I think America, the World, has started to wipe the sleep outta their eyes after 911

Originally posted by Bspiracy
reply to post by doorbell412

 

I just don't get why you sound so complacent.
I for one am NOT sitting back and relaxing and allowing this crap to happen. I contact political organizations, I donate to organizations I TALK TO PEOPLE and help them get past confusion. I have helped a few people wake up and make some decisions that have affected them and others. Eventually if this keeps happening, there will be o one else to wake up.

Good for you. But if you read what i wrote

Just face reality. When most people hear about stuff like America is falling, or try to get them to watch a video like this, they immediately label you as a whack job and go back doing whatever it is they were doing. They don't want to hear stuff like that. As long as their eating and in good health, they could care less.

That sir is no lie.