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i say agian when liberals throw military recruiters of college campuses if you have a negative viewpoint of what this guy did you have no ground to stand on.

Originally posted by neo67
i say agian when liberals throw military recruiters of college campuses if you have a negative viewpoint of what this guy did you have no ground to stand on.

Apples to oranges.

I think that the people who are looking at this situation with the firearms instructor are commenting on the illogic of his action, as something that runs in opposition to financial logic...however, as has been admitted multiple times, it is his prerogative to teach whoever he chooses, as much as an insufferable douchebag it may make him appear to be. Still, he is, in a sense, running a private business that people are paying HIM for.

On the other hand, military recruitment in schools is a completely different issue. First of all, many colleges and universities that such recruitment happens at are public institutions, therefore, the universities and colleges have a responsibility, to an extent, to observe the wishes of the public at large...secondly, and I think more importantly, it is not the mere presence of the recruiters in colleges that is objectable, but rather the predatory practices undergone during the recruitment procedure, the offering of deceptive incentives to naive youths, etc.

In one situation, it is the simple and private transfer of funds for knowledge. The other is a far more complex creation of contractual obligation.

That being said, I, as a moderate left-leaning individual, for one don't have a "major" objection to recruitment in universities...

...BTW...funny people are always telling liberals what their opinions are...

attacking that guy personally someone who you dont even know make you lose this arguement.

i think your wrong you think i am wrong its fine to disagree.

you are not so moderate as you might think


as you said a college is a private business for which people are paying for...

and yet this guy is wrong

its the same damn thing.

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This will be an interesting one to follow...

I applaud the instructor standing by his principles.

It would be a different story should he not wish to instruct McCain supporters...a different tune would be playing...and the arguments would be reversed, my opinion would not.

He is no longer a volunteer... Can't say I blame OK authorities.

[edit on 7-3-2009 by pyrytyes]

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Oh yes, saying that the individual in question may, or may not, appear to be an insufferable douchebag certainly invalidates anything else that may be said.

Its not a personal attack on him, it is an attack on his actions. It is a questioned observation of his action, which was the attack of others for their political persuasion. How is it that all my opinions, even if they have nothing to do with him, can be invalidated by a minor attack on his attack on others for their opinions, which differed than his, and yet his opinions can remain valid?

And to return to the issue of military recruitment in colleges....it is still a completely different issue because an individual goes to a firearms instructor to receive firearms training...an individual does not go to university to be recruited by the military, they go to a military recruitment office.

same thing

why does a person go to college? to better himself or herself we would both agree i think.

but it is the responsibilty for colleges to provide the best options this country has to show what options as the individual has. fact is they dont.

i stand by my posts

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Originally posted by neo67
why does a person go to college?

To get an education.

but it is the responsibilty for colleges to provide the best options this country has to show what options as the individual has.

No, it isn't. It's to provide an education.

Stand by your posts if you want to, but you're off topic and trolling as far as I'm concerned. Your posts are attacking "liberal elitists" and other members instead of addressing the original post, which you have yet to do.

obviously you havent read the entire thread

and you came after me


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liberals are elitists plain and simple.

Oh yes, not to seem trite, but according to your own statements, your own opinion must be invalidated because the above statement, yours, is an attack on liberals, many of which you do not know...to say that "liberals are elitists plain and simple" is something that is neither plain nor simple...it is an opinion that, in the context of your statements, is designed to alienate them, liberals, from the rest of society, to which it can be construed that you probably consider yourself a part of...none the less, contextually, it is obviously meant as an insult.

So, you are falling into the exact trap that I have fallen into...insulting people who you do not know...therefore your opinion must be as wrong as mine...the only difference is that while I have insulted only one person in this thread, you have insulted tens of millions.

Anyway, I'm going to stop this because I'm distracting from the thread...sorry for that, everyone.

To tie it all together, I think the point here is that hypocrisy runs rampant on both sides of the political aisle and that part of the problem is that all the actors are playing from different scripts with different understandings of the depth of the words written.

being called an elitist is and insult? i had no idea liberals were so thin skinned.

last post in this thread..

if you considered that an insult guess i am sorry


you people sure can dish it out but you sure can't take it either




[edit on 7-3-2009 by neo67]

Originally posted by neo67
being called an elitist is and insult? i had no idea liberals were so thin skinned.

last post in this thread..

if you considered that an insult guess i am sorry


you people sure can dish it out but you sure can't take it either




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and W and Mccain are salt of the Earth???

W is from one of the most Elite families ever -

And well, Mccain has more car and homes than he has fingers...

i wasnt gonna post in here agian but then agian when you implied i am dumb ie a few more years of school wouldnt hurt.

i think you need to go back.............

a former us marine who needs to learn how to shoot a firearm?
and its obvious that all marines are both parties.

Originally posted by neo67
last post in this thread..


[edit on 7-3-2009 by neo67]

Don't lie, you're leaving the thread because people started using big words you can't begin to comprehend (sound it out, you'll get it sport).

I'm a Liberal. If I were American, I would have voted for Obama. Unfortunately I'm Canadian, but I do own and have access to an array of firearms, know how to use them, and enjoy to hunt.

The world isn't black and white. Plenty of so-called "Liberals" enjoy shooting as a sport or enjoy hunting.

thank you for making my points on this thread


fighting on the internet is like winning the special olympics. even if you win your still..........

[edit on 7-3-2009 by neo67]

Originally posted by neo67
thank you for making my points on this thread


fighting on the internet is like winning the special olmpics. even if you win your still..........

And that was - exactly? You've made plenty of 'points' in this thread, few of them literate and none of which make any sense at all.

You're a troll and nothing more. I'd have more respecting for you if you were trolling for laughs, but the fact that you actually seem to believe your own rhetoric only makes it pathetic really.

Edit to add: I'll let to have the last word on this, as that's clearly what you want. I don't consider myself highly intelligent, perhaps average at best.

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[edit on 7-3-2009 by neo67]

Originally posted by neo67

a former us marine who needs to learn how to shoot a firearm?
and its obvious that all marines are both parties.

Actually, some states require Hunter Safety Education to hunt. The class isn't about learning to shoot firearms, it's about learning to do it safely.

I for one, think the whole thing is kinda funny.

Originally posted by Rotoplooker


Oklahoma has served up yet another plate of flaming dog doo for me to retch over. Oklahoma is the reddest state in the nation and it shows. The paranoia and anti-intellectualism are at an all time high. I am a native Oklahoman, liberal, gun owner and yet I don't feel threatened by President Obama. I love my guns. I would say that the fear of Obama is the new homophobia. As is the case with the hunting instructor, there are some serious Freudian issues at play here.

Although I do agree that this Instructor went over the Top in his actions, I completely disagree with you in that if you are a Gun Owner, you actually do have MUCH to fear from President Obama and his Administration.

As for the fear of President Obama, how is that related to a dislike of Homosexuals? Because a Democratic and Capitalistic loving People fear a well proven Socialist, that makes them "Phobic"? I dare say that you are stuck in a land of Naivety.

I also believe that a term such as "Homophobia" is yet another ridiculous label for those who simply do not believe in the lifestyle. Americans have a Right to not Like nor Condone a certain lifestyle, and they have a right to respectfully do so without the likes of you and others slapping Scarlet Labels upon them.