Proof of Chemtrails- Chemtrail Vertical Climb

Proof of Chemtrails- Chemtrail Vertical Climb

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chemtrail vertical climb, dallas,tx

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i filmed this video on the balcony of my friends apartment on a day of heavy chemtrail spraying in plano, tx. i've heard that the government says that the chemtrails are contrails from normal passenger planes but everyone knows that they're not. I DON'T BELIVEVE A PASSENGER PLANE WOULD BE MAKING A VERTICAL CLIMB. I also have a picture of some sirius clouds that the trails left off and there's mulitiple colors in the clouds that looked like an oil spill but in the air. (i don't know how to add pics)

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Contrails can be produced by any aircraft so long as the conditions are right. It doesn’t matter what direction they’re going.

If you know what contrails are why would you think only passenger aircraft produce them?

reply to post by elfulanozutan0


1. This is not breaking news - expect this thread to be closed/moved very soon!
2. I see no proof?
3. All I see is a plane making a turn. There's no evidence that anything is making a "vertical climb", and I think if you ask around, you'll find that it's pretty unlikely that a commercial plane/jet would be making a "vertical climb".

So where is the "proof" that this is a 'chemtrail' and not a 'contrail'?

[edit on 1-3-2009 by C.H.U.D.]

I love how people consider a photo of a contrail as "proof" of Chemtrails. Try showing a photo taken from within the plane that includes the chemical sprayers along with the drums of chemicals. That would be proof. Failing that, you have simply shown one more common contrail.

When I was a kid I found a quarter under my pillow. Is that proof that the tooth fairy exists?

terapin, i could show you photos like that all day, but then again, i'm usually using it to spray farmers fields

people need to realise and accept that this is a natural process formed from aircrat wings and engines when the prevailling conditions are right. i mean to carry the equipment and then chemicals required to "chem spray" would require alot of room and weight that the aircraft would have to remove from their total passenger capacity. remember, aircraft are greatly affected by the loaded weight and where it is positioned, i mean a full 747 is pretty much at its max take off weight once the fuel is added.

and before someone says it, there is nothing in the fuel ok, i know cause im around the stuff all day every day and there ain't a thing wrong with me

I personally believe that this aircraft is simply making a turn in this video, not a vertical climb, it is simply an illusion. But I am aware that aircraft don't make magical, long lasting contrails. Sorry, they just don't.

Although, I rarely argue about this anymore, I think I have debated faaaar too much on this subject in the past. Coming from a family of pilots, I know the defference between a contrail and a chemtrail.

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They don't make long lasting contrails? Then tell me what I'm looking at over Atlanta almost daily when a contrail stays for an hour or so. Or what all those WWII B-17 pilots were having to avoid on their way back from a mission when they had to fly a different route to avoid their own contrails?

Okay

1. The plane is not vertically climbing, its turning. If it was on a vertical climb, the engines would stall

2. Considering there is an abundance of cirrus and cirrostratus in the sky, it indicates there is sufficient moisture, and a cold enough temperature for contrails to become visible. It is also a good indicator that persistent contrails are likely

3. The multiple colours in the cloud is an optical effect known in the meteorological world as iridescence, caused by refraction of sunlight on water droplets or ice crystals present in the troposphere

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Well my friend, your looking at the defenition of a chemtrial. Your talking about the "contrails" that lose altitude and spread out across the sky correct? Yeah, those aren't contrails.

You can believe the anti-chemtrail propaganda if you want. unny that 20 years ago contrails lasted at the most a few minutes.

Originally posted by leisuredrummer
Well my friend, your looking at the defenition of a chemtrial. Your talking about the "contrails" that lose altitude and spread out across the sky correct? Yeah, those aren't contrails.

You can believe the anti-chemtrail propaganda if you want. unny that 20 years ago contrails lasted at the most a few minutes.

How sure are of that claim?

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and the contrails that the old WWII bomber aircraft produced are only a figment of our imagination

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Ah, well you see what happened was that from the 1920s to the 1990s aircraft produce contrails which were often known to persist for hours and/or spread across the sky. Hence all those reports from WWII and the many studies into the phenomena from the 1960s onwards. Then in the 1990s all aircraft stopped doing this. And instead, thousands of secret military aircraft starting criss crossing the planet laying chemtrails. Which look and behave exactly the same as the contrails that had previously existed.

Obvious innit

Originally posted by leisuredrummer
Well my friend, your looking at the defenition of a chemtrial. Your talking about the "contrails" that lose altitude and spread out across the sky correct? Yeah, those aren't contrails.

They are contrails, can you actually explain with scientific reference why a CONtrail wouldn't stay in the sky and spread out over time? It's perfectly normal for them to do so.


CLOUDS stay in the sky, don't they? They also spread out over time. How do clouds get in the sky, evil government agents spray those too? Wow, they must have started that a couple million years ago. Maybe they have a time machine. Contrails are the same exact things as clouds.


This notion of "chemtrails" is purely the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. But I do not blame the chemtrail believers at all. They just don't understand meteorlogical science (or basic chemistry/science for that matter) and don't know how condensation forms. So to make up for their lack of knowledge, their brain automatically creates this idea that the only possible way contrails can form is because someone is spraying them in the sky. But it's perfectly natural for your brain to make up ridiculous reasons like this, to help explain things. It's part of the human thought process. Back a thousand years ago, people thought the sun was yellow because the gods wanted it to be yellow. They didn't understand the science behind it. Today, we know the sun is yellow because it's a giant ball of burning hydrogen. The same applies to chemtrails, the people who know how CONtrails work and the science behind it, know the truth. The people who don't know it, come up with a reason to explain it, and their reason is that the government or some entity is somehow spraying them in the air (which is not actually physically possible).



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I only have this to post here. Do with it what you will.

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20 years ago i am 100% positive i witnessed many contrails streching all across the sky in Australia, not just one but many as planes crossed the nation and these lasted for more than your few minutes. So be careful what you claim, or maybe it started first in Oz

Originally posted by leisuredrummer
Well my friend, your looking at the defenition of a chemtrial. Your talking about the "contrails" that lose altitude and spread out across the sky correct? Yeah, those aren't contrails.

You can believe the anti-chemtrail propaganda if you want. unny that 20 years ago contrails lasted at the most a few minutes.



How sure are of that claim?


I live in Dallas, TX and chemtrails are sprayed every day and it's ridiculous. People get sick develop allergies, and have joint aches and headaches when they spray. my mother is one of them but she doesn't believe. Now you can try to tell me that chemtrails are just contrails but in Dallas i can watch a contrail and chemtrail at the same time. Why would some planes emit chemtrails and others at the same altitutde don't? It's common sense, deny ignorance, they spray us with all these monsanto products in the sky like were crops. Planes don't make criss cross paterns all day long.

They are contrails, can you actually explain with scientific reference why a CONtrail wouldn't stay in the sky and spread out over time? It's perfectly normal for them to do so.


CLOUDS stay in the sky, don't they? They also spread out over time. How do clouds get in the sky, evil government agents spray those too? Wow, they must have started that a couple million years ago. Maybe they have a time machine. Contrails are the same exact things as clouds.


I've seen a normal contrail and they don't spread out, they dissapate after a few minutes. Chemtrails spread out for hours turning into what looks likee cirrius clouds but if you look closely you can tell it's just a cloud of haze/mist that falls to the ground. I'll wake up in the morning and the sky will be clear, no clouds. Later in the morning they start spraying all day then around dusk it starts to get real cloudy and cool. So please F-Off if you don't believe in chemtrails, and don't talk to me, i don't want to talk to you.

For the record the plane was climbing. it was above my head going up not turning. Since when do you have to go up to turn

Obviously all pollution and illness on the ground are caused by stuff sprayed several miles above out heads and nothing whatsoever to do with all the exhaust fumes, factories, crop spraying and goodness knows what else that takes places a few feet above our heads

Why'd do think all the alleged substances allegedly sprayed at 30,000ft into 100mph winds are only ever found on the ground below? I'll give you a clue: it's because they were already there .....

The best hoaxes are all about making people see what isn't there whilst ignoring what's right in front of their eyes.

Originally posted by elfulanozutan0
For the record the plane was climbing. it was above my head going up not turning. Since when do you have to go up to turn

Maybe because they were climbing after take off. Or because they were changing altitude. Or because of any number of things that happen during a flight. Planes are required to turn to avoid cities as they are climbing for noise abatement.

As for the same altitude claim, prove it. The only way you can tell is with some kind of tracking software. There is no way that you can look at two planes in flight from the ground and say "They're at the same altitude."