Why does Alex hate Orwell, Huxley and Wells?

Alex Jones has uncovered some interesting things in the past and has a lot of interesting and valid points to make, however sometimes he gets a little, er, #carried away# with himself and maybe spouts a bit of nonsence... OR he's a paid disinfo agent who gives away real info to get people believing then brainwashes them with fear - one or the other.

Anyway Alex and many of his buddies really, really hate three of the best, most positive authors in history - George Orwell, Aldous Huxley and HG Wells. Now they all happen to be British and AJ & crew are still fighting the war of independence so maybe this is why? His british lord impressions, addiction to the song with the lines 'we fired our guns and the british kept a coming', etc show this however these are almost always in jest, he has many british people on his show and is always really nice to them -i'm not calling AJ a racist, in most of his points against the UK he is 100% correct, certainly about the evils of our aristocratic classes (i am british).

But Orwell, Huxley and Wells aren't aristocratic, in fact they are all very anti-the system, anti-the man and anti-authoritarian -Jone should LOVE them with a passion! How could someone fighting the NWO hate the people who wrote -Down and out in paris and london, road to wigan pier, animal farm, 1984, doors of perception, brave new world, time machine, first man on the moon and many, many others?

So, are AJ and friends are getting carried away with the anti-english feeling and tarring good people?

mare partisan than they claim and hating on them for being liberal?

OR paid disinfo working to cut people who would be deeply moved by these great works off from their wisdom? Do they want to blot these great men from history because their words are just too strong?

It would be better to ask him personally, i guess. But if he really does not like those authors - maybe the reasons are:
H.G Wells actually wrote a pamphlet on new world and how it should be united and such. Aka he was pro- NWO.
Huxley - i do not know since never heard of him (to my internal shame)
Orwell - probably due to his early Marxist ties. Or perhaps because he broke up with Marxism after Spanish civil war experience? Those new age truth movements are awfully socialistic and remind me of early 20th century leftist movements.
Anyway - all the neo-truth movements seem to throw "disinfo/paid" snowballs at each others too easily. Result is that they smear each other with the same zeal as they smear government and elites. Thus in my personal opinion they are not better then their adversaries, also seeking fame, money and power.

He doesn't hate them.

He just cites them a lot because they all laid out plans for the NWO in fiction or fact decades ago. I've never heard him aim any venom at them, and I've listened to 90 per cent of his broadcasts for over a year.

He uses them as examples of how the elite publish their plans in the open and then carry them out.

I don't know whether the three of them agreed with plans for world governement or were whistleblowers . I think Wells and Huxley were pro globalism, and Orwell was warning people.

Huxley on a scientific dictatorship: www.youtube.com...

Huxley quote

"A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude. To make them love it is the task assigned, in present-day totalitarian states, to ministries of propaganda, newspaper editors and schoolteachers.... The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth."

By Wells in 1940 www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...

An interesting article on Wells, with plenty of direct quotes:

www.infowars.com...

That's how stupid these people are, they publish openly. And that's how stupid we are, we do nothing about it.




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One man's fiction is another man's plan.

One man's fiction is another man's mind manipulation.

The authors listed have some dodgy history and elitist ties, just because their work in some circles is presented as reactionary dosen't mean that, in reality, they could be in bed with the same elites that are going for global control.

Personally I think it's the latter, and I suspect Alex Jones does too.

But AJ also has some strange omissions, which make me think he's linked to organised religion, ie, has a link to the NWO through the back door. I'm not sure about it, but there's just too much fearmongering with him, it's the MO of a priest.

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Alex Jones is noting but a retarded Christian fundamentalist. He likes to put on a show. Honestly, I have little respect for him. It's sad, really, because at one time, I thought he was trying to do the right thing.

I'm actually reading Brave New World by Aldous Huxley right now as we speak.

These famous dystopian books (Brave New World, 1984) were all stolen from the much earlier Russian novel and father of dystopian novels, "We" by Yevgeny Zamyatin. Aldous Huxley claimed he didn't but both Kurt Vonnegut and George Orwell called him out on it and said he's lying because Orwell and everyone else admitted that they took all their best ideas for their dystopian worlds from "WE."

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Alex Jones is noting but a retarded Christian fundamentalist. He likes to put on a show. Honestly, I have little respect for him. It's sad, really, because at one time, I thought he was trying to do the right thing.

Perhaps, but he is still a good source for information. I suspect the truth about the real conspiracy is not so much in the camp of the transhumanist banker camp and not so much in the camp of the bible peddling missionary. I suspect the truth is that there is an elitist mafia that just tries to control everything so that everything feeds into the powerstructure and they ride the popular opinions on this board of polivalence. If he people are getting religious they play them against the materialists, if the people are getting materialist they play them against the religious, and this way keep their unfair economic relationships with the slave classes intact. They might not actually have a defined longterm plan beyond this, beyond keeping themselves as the eye at the top of the pyramid.

And Alex Jones falls into the system, possibly with his knowledge, possibly without it. I call it playing the sides against the middle.

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But neither HG Wells nor Huxley were NWO Power Elites, they were part of a long tradition of literary debate and both fought tirelessly for the empowerment of the human spirt, freedom and justice for all.

Wells wrote 'First man in the moon' and 'Time machine' to warn of the long term dangers, and draw attention to the current injustices and absurditys of the aristocratic system. He details a humanity split into two groups the week and feeble 'Elites' and the short and thick 'Workers' -this dire warning for all of humanity, not just the workers but the elites too is often seen as an attack on the class system. 'First man in the moon' details a race of miners who are as advanced as humans but not in the same way, we living on the surface have different tech to the miiner moon people -the moral being that different people are good at different things, it doesn't make one group #better# than the others -again often seen as an attack on the class system.

Huxley later followed this line of thought with 'Brave new world' a shocking and scary tale of a future world where a class system is imposed at birth though chemical alteration and brainwashing - In his story a lone savage enters the society and the book asks the questions -whats the point of a perfect world if people aren't real people anymore, we are shown the horrible future where shakespears beauty is meaningless. Huxley also examines the caged soul of man, in door of perception he describes how the 'door' has become jamed shut, people aren't able to think with all their brain anymore, they are 'asleep' and blindly following the status quo -you could almost call them sheeple.

These people were very vocal in their stand against 'the man' and against the authoritarian control of a group of elites, they were more like the original Alex Jones than the original Rockafella. I don't understand where this idea of them as NWO elites comes from.

I don't like Alex Jones...

He seems to be a loud mouth American, with very little positive to say.

A mouth piece for the NWO i think, actively scaring and shaking up the population, creating fear and confusion, whilst acting as 'mr nice guy'...

Sod him.

HG Wells was a member of the "Fabian Society", Britains oldest think tank.

"The Fabian Society is a British intellectual socialist movement, whose purpose is to advance the principles of Social democracy via gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary means."

Some prominent members include; Gordon Brown, Tony Blair, George Bernard Shaw and Bertrand Russell.

The coat of arms for there club is a "wolf in sheep's clothing". [IMAGE BELOW]

www.silver-investor.com...


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George Orwell (Eric Blair) was a pretty independent character, he was against zionism and the occupation of Israel and the Mi5 even had a file on him for his anti-establishment views.

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Huxley was from a famous family of aristocrats. He was an open advocate for psychedelics, although not for the masses but to be consumed by the intellectual elite. His great grandfather was nickanamed "Darwin's Bulldog" for being a fierce supporter/advocate/friend of Darwin.

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I would say the 3 of them have zero conspiratorial motives in their writings. More than likely they are viewed as assets to TPTB, in regards to manipulating pulic opinion to be more open to "National Socialism".

On a side note, "Brave New World" had the greatest impact of any book I have ever read.

Peace





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Totally agree to all your points.
The Brave New World is a fantastic anticipation of today's world.
Less known is Huxley's "Island", an anti utopia, a very good anticipation too.

Wells clarly saw Morlocks the cannibals. Who do you think were the idiotic Eloi?
He saw his own world as such.

Alex Jones is just a semi literate person. He wants to prove his thesis which is not really his. But playing with fire like Phaeton.

I don't understand where this idea of them as NWO elites comes from

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Did you check out those links?

Wells wrote a book called THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
Huxley had a brother at the U.N and he talked about getting people to "love their servitude"
Bit of a giveaway there...



I like those writers. Read 1984, Doors of Perception, Brave New World (twice) and The Time Machine. The elite use a lot of double-speak though.

I'm not sure if you read the links I dropped. Get back to me if you have time to read them.






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Orwell
Huxley
Wells.

Wonderful authors indeed.

They never had to yell to get their point across.

Huxley, Wells, Orwell were visionaries warning of worse worlds and dreaming of a better world.

Jones is no visionary and only yells of a worse world.

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Come on now all.

Can't Alex Jones be given some credit for bringing us the Bohemian Grove Video, asking George Bush questions, raising hell about fingerprinted driver's licenses?

People have flaws and Alex Jones isn't perfect but he is passionate about scaring people into action. He wants people to wake up, I believe that, and I also believes he doesn't think there is much time...

Alex Jones a NWO tool? Does anyone really have any hard evidence?

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The Morlocks were representative of the aggressive extreme. The Eloi were representative of extreme love/peace.

At least, thats what I get from it.

Island is a good book but lacks the punch of "Brave New World".

Huxley wrote "Doors Of Perception" after taking mescaline for his first time. It has a lot to do with Plato's "Allegory of the Cave" and similar themes. A few years later he had his first '___' experience after which he called "Doors Of Perception" a childlike amusement park of smoke and mirrors.

Of the 3 authors I'd say Huxley has the strongest influence for anti-establishment ideals. Many thanks to him for his extensive entheogen experimentation, without such an admittance I might not have ever started dabbling so heavy with psychedelics.

Peace

Might I also suggest Huxley's "Brave New World Revisited"?

Nonfiction, and covers a bit of insight into the rationale and methods behind the majority of his premise in "Brave New World".

Excellent read for those who appreciate his work.

Alex should be given credit for bringing things into the public and for allowing people to view his videos for free on the internet.

However I'm not sure what his angle is. Does he want to replace the system now with an even worse Christian theocracy or what, I'm never too sure.

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Are we talking about Julian Huxley, the evolutionary biologist who famously did the axolotl to salamander experiment and was a founding member of the world wild life fund? Well he went to Eaton and Oxbridge like all elites, but then does having a good eduction make you evil? he helped create the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) - he was an internationalist sure, he believed people all over the world should be looked after and treated fairly, hence despite being an outspoken socialist he also spoke out about the mistakes and crimes of stalin. He did also believe as many people did in those days in eugenics, as an evolutionary biologist he saw the outcome of a stagnated gene pool very clearly -however does this mean he's part of an evil plan to kill 80% of the population? NO, it means that he thinks people with genetic problems shouldn't breed -this alone isn't evil.

Also he isn't his brother. Just because his brother believes in some things that you might not like it doesn't mean aldous is bad.

You might not agree with everything every member of the huxley family did or said but the sensible way to deal with people you don't agree with is to rationally debate the issues -wildly claiming they are part of a plan to enslave the world is insane, ignoring the wise and informative things they have to say is just stupid.

The huxley family over all were not authoritarian, they believed people should be free to follow their desires and live as they want too however as is evident in their works they all see the value in helping people make a wise choice by offering education - out of the time and place they came from they were possibly some of the least NWO like people you could find, victorian scientist-gentlemen sure, evil no.

I know you yanks like your guns and rebel flags but violent revolution really isn't the answer to the worlds problems, many people are working to make the world better one step at a time -last election which ever candidate you voted for it was a campaign based on 'change' or 'revolution', it's clear to everyone that the world can't go on like it is -wouldn't it have been better if we had started working towards sensible ways of doing things back when we still had a chance then wait till now when it's all so messed up and chaotic that we're all on the brink of economic collapse, climate change and WW3 all happening together!?!

Huxley and wells raised a lot of issues we need to be thinking about, some of which we can easily agree with -the human spirit is more important than having a uniform utopia, and others that we might struggle with -eugenics or socialism say.

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Manager looks into his dug out. Casey. OK Casey your at bat. Alex Jones may be, no is, loud, crass and never at a loss for words, but he does get attention to something we all want brought out to the sunlight. Until someone else wants to do his job , I say Bravo to Alex