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Originally posted by CryoPyro
Originally posted by DeltaNine
Essentially it means you need to provide some evidence of your claims since the onus is on you to prove it.
Isn't Triple Canopy a private military organization that outsources for the US government like Dyncorp?
There was a big scandal involving the two corps.
Dyncorp scandal
They do the dirty work so that the US doesn't have to take the blame.
[edit on 28-2-2009 by CryoPyro]
Originally posted by zeetroyman
I own a plot of land on the moon.
They better not mess up my back yard or ill be suing!
Originally posted by ziggystar60
Originally posted by User4372
Also who 'owns' the moon( apart from the clangers) or is it just free territory?
Apparantly his name is Dennis Hope.
In 1967, the United Nations signed the Outer Space Treaty, which forbids any government from claiming the Moon (or any part of space for that matter). The treaty failed to mention anything about private individuals or corporations, so a second treaty forbidding anyone from claiming ownership of extraterrestrial real estate was proposed. Only a handful of nations (none of them space-faring) signed this treaty. This left a loophole in international law as big as the void of space itself.
Oops.
In 1980, Dennis Hope sent letters to the United Nations, the United States government and the government of the former Soviet Union, informing them that he was officially claiming ownership of all planetary and lunar surfaces (aside from the Earth) in our solar system. He even gave them the opportunity to respond if they had objections, and as crazy as it sounds, he hasn't heard a word from any of them since.
So...for twenty years Dennis Hope has been selling plots on the Moon, Mars and other heavenly bodies - for a pretty reasonable price!
www.scifidimensions.com...
Originally posted by DeltaNine
Originally posted by CryoPyro
Originally posted by DeltaNine
Essentially it means you need to provide some evidence of your claims since the onus is on you to prove it.
Isn't Triple Canopy a private military organization that outsources for the US government like Dyncorp?
There was a big scandal involving the two corps.
Dyncorp scandal
They do the dirty work so that the US doesn't have to take the blame.
[edit on 28-2-2009 by CryoPyro]
Which is lovely and all but it doesn't explain how NASA is anything but a civilian organisation and not Ming The Merciless who needs a Flash Gordon/Tristar to save the day.
Originally posted by DeltaNine
They're not private at all. They're noted as being a civilian governmental organisation and not a private entity at all.
Where you've got this particular gem of information from I've no idea but it is completely erroneous.
And I've still not seen the evidence that I've asked for.
Triple Canopy is a U.S. private military company (PMC) based in Herndon, Virginia. Its marquee client was the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq, which it began serving in September 2003; it has also provided security services to the US Department of Energy, and training services to various foreign governments and domestic law enforcement agencies, and was one of three PMCs chosen to provide supplemental security personnel at U.S. embassies worldwide.
DynCorp International[2] is a United States-based private military contractor (PMC) and aircraft maintenance company. DynCorp receives more than 96 percent of its $2 billion in annual revenues from the federal government.[3]
The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA, pronounced /ˈnæsə/) is an agency of the United States government, responsible for the nation's public space program. NASA was established on July 29, 1958, by the National Aeronautics and Space Act.[3]
President-elect Barack Obama will look to end long-standing enmities between the Defence Department and NASA, joining civilian and military space missions to combat China in a new space race, according to a Bloomberg report.
The report states the transition team believe close collaboration between the country's civilian and military space program would also maximise cost efficiencies as the United States looks to, once again, send a manned mission to the moon.
Originally posted by ChemBreather
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Originally posted by DeltaNine
I see no way the US government could attack the moon. Right now they're having problems funding Iraq and Afghanistan and the recession won't help things too much.
Oh and NASA is a civilian organisation. They're not business attacking anyone, anything or, erm, any planet.
Originally posted by kyred
reply to post by DeltaNine
Oh, yeah! NASA a civilian organization? I think not. Their "income" is provided from the U.S. goverment. That makes them not civilian, nor military. However NASA does work with the military on projects, especially the U.S. Air Force and Navy.
Originally posted by Whisper67
You guys remember the claims of moon landers stating that there was a dull, lasting, hollow sound - like what a bell does- when they made impacts on the moon suggesting it was hollow?
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
The idea of Hollow Planets seems to have found a home for itself among Russian scientists more than anybody else. In this century Russians have twice suggested that planetary bodies might be hollow. The first was the suggestion that one of the moons of Mars was hollow. The second was when two senior scientists from the Soviet Academy of Sciences (as it was then known) suggested that our Moon was hollow. In the mid-1970s Vasin and Shcherbakov from the Soviet Academy of Sciences suggested that the Moon was a huge alien spaceship! No one really knows how the Moon came into being. If the Moon and Earth formed together in orbit, why are the surface materials of these two worlds so dissimilar? There are also some rocks found on the Moon which might be older than the Earth.
Perhaps the Moon came from elsewhere? Perhaps even from outside our solar system. Many scientists have suggested that. But here Newtonian gravity becomes the problem. According to all calculations and models produced by scientists, the chances of a successful capture of the Moon by the Earth as a mere random event is one in billions. How could the Earth have captured the Moon against such odds? That is why these two Russian scientists suggested that the Moon was steered into orbit by intelligent beings – who perhaps are no longer around. Or perhaps they still live there inside the Moon? Why a hollow Moon then? Apollo 12 placed the first seismometer on an alien world. NASA did not expect many Moon quakes. They expected the Moon to be seismically dead.
To ensure some kind of seismic results they deliberately caused part of a rocket to crash into the Moon. When they did this, the results astounded all the theoreticians. The Moon’s behavior was quite unexpected. It “rang like a bell” for almost an hour. Scientists were quite stunned at the time. It may interest the Reader to know that in 1959 a prominent Russian astronomer produced spectrographs showing what he believed was a volcanic eruption which he detected on the Moon. There is indeed more activity on the Moon than we used to think.
Originally posted by DeltaNine
I said that NASA was a civilian organisation and not a military one.