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Really we where only attack once, and that was on 911,
furthmore, your information that you read on those 911 debunking sites, which contain nothing but yellow journalism, and disinformation which has no place in my research, or my beliefs. Your lousy attempt to say Muslim extremist did 911 is a laughable joke it has already been proven that none of these highjackers where Muslim, infact they didn’t come from the country that WE attack for doing 911, and that is a fact. This goes to show that you have not done much research on the subject of 911, had you done just a little bite of research, then you would have not made such a ridiculous statement.
Originally posted by Achorwrath
Originally posted by Jezus
Originally posted by C-JEAN
For those who did not like our first post's "ground zero" photo?
here are more photos, where we see the obvious 45 degree cuts on columns:
911research.wtc7.net...
45* cuts 10 to 20 feet above ground !
911research.wtc7.net...
3 photos down.
www.amny.com...
Photo #6.
I guess the rescuers did not know they should have HIDDEN this one ? B-)
old.911digitalarchive.org...
2 or 3 of them.
The date is shown on some of them, but is not mandatory.
Nobody cuts steel at 45 degrees ! It makes the cut 1.4 times longer !
All found with:
us2.ixquick.com...
My key-words = ["ground zero" photos ]
EDIT to fix links.
Blue skies.
[edit on 2009/3/1 by C-JEAN]
QFT
I can't scientifically prove every aspect of the conspiracy...
but science does tell us that the official story is physically impossible.
[edit on 14-3-2009 by Jezus]
You obviously missed all of the posts showing why you cut like that and how.
next time you go out and cut a tree please cut horizontal to the ground.
Look up thermal Lance and Plasm Torch, then by all means please read what is required to get a building ready for controlled demo
you can choose a ton of companies that do it and check their work logs. by the time they are ready to demolished they would not be able to be occupied as they are structuraly unsound.
But please over look Physics, Construction Engineering, Explosives Science, everything.
You see what you want to see. Not what is there.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Really we where only attack once, and that was on 911,
Achille Lauro
Beirut Barracks
TWA 847
Pan Am 103
US Embassy in Teheran
The 2 Embassies in Africa
USS Deyo (oh wait, we stopped that attack before they had a chance to hit us)
All the hostages taken in Beirut
USS Cole
There are a few more I could list, but you should get the point by now...
Either you have the memory recall of a goldfish, or you are a teenager whose history teachers have failed....with the exception of the USS Deyo, I will excuse you from knowing about that one because it was never publicized.
So, as I said, over 30 years of attacks/attempted attacks by Muslim extremists.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
We attacked Afghanistan because they were sheltering OBL,
we attacked Iraq, because of its continued support of terrorists.
IF you remember what the President said in any of his speeches the two weeks after 9/11, you would realize he said that if you supported terrorists that meant to do us harm....we were coming after you.
He never once said we were limiting the war on terrorism to taking care of those behind 9/11.
I will refrain from pointing out that the intelligence agencies of at least three different countries to this day, insist that the Iraqi government met with Al Qaeda reps on several different occasions and that the Iraqi government provided diplomatic credentials for Al Qaeda terrorists.
Because your hatred runs so deep you will never accept the facts.
And yet, OBL is STILL not wanted for 9/11?
For someone with a limited amount of memory, you should not chastize others for theirs
Hmm...yet the known supporters for 9/11 (Saudi Arabia) is still our friend? And even the Prince gets a kiss on the lips from our President.
And I know that Saddam being Secular, Al-Qaeda hated him too.
Right back at ya.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
LOL. This one always makes me chuckle. First, he is already wanted for terrorist acts committed against the United States.
Second, if he is ever formally arraigned in a US Court, pretty sure thats when you would see charges involving 9/11.
Third, the US military doesnt give a rats behind about criminal charges. Although this is always a nice way to divert a discussion.
However, if you want to get technical about it, we went into Iraq because of Saddam's support of terrorism and the concern that he would give WMDs to terrorist groups.
The King of Saudi Arabia supported the 9/11 terrorists? When? How? Show some bonafide evidence. Oh wait, the King of Saudi Arabia is the one that ordered quite a few Saudis to be taken into custody for interrogation over possible Al Qaeda connections.
The War in Afghanistan, which began on October 7, 2001 as the U.S. military operation Operation Enduring Freedom, was launched by the United States with the United Kingdom in response to the September 11, 2001 attacks. The stated purpose of the invasion was to capture Osama bin Laden, destroy al-Qaeda, and remove the Taliban regime which had provided support and safe harbor to al-Qaeda. The United States' Bush Doctrine stated that, as policy, it would not distinguish between al-Qaeda and nations that harbor them.
The September 11, 2001 attacks fueled criticisms within the United States of
alleged Saudi involvement in terrorism or of Saudi laxity in acting against terrorist
groups. Of particular concern have been reports that funds may be flowing from
Saudi Arabia and other Middle East countries to terrorist groups, largely under the
guise of charitable contributions. Critics of Saudi policies have cited a number of
reports that the Saudi government has permitted or encouraged fund raising in Saudi
Arabia by charitable Islamic groups and foundations linked to Osama bin Laden’s Al
Qaeda organization or like-minded entities.
Really? I guess thats why Abdul Yassin was a member of Saddam's fedayeen with officer rank. I guess thats why other Al Qaeda members had Iraq diplomatic passports. I guess thats why Mohammed Atta was at Salmon Pak to meet with Abu Nidal.......cause Al Qaeda hated Saddam Hussein.
Hmm...I post something, Wonderwoman jumps my case, so I return the favor to her...and then Griff decides to jump in.........
So, the first couple months (9) of Mr. Bush's presidency, we didn't see fit to go into Afghanistan until 9/11? I would think 9/11 would the "catalist" that took us there. No?
Really? I thought Shiek Shammalama-ding-dong was the"master-mind". How can there be 2 "master-minds"?
So, why didn't the military just shoot Saddam then and say it was "self-defense"?
Ah. So, it wasn't because he had them and was supposedly hiding them from the UN inspectors? We went to war because of what he "might" do?
You "might" shyte your pants someday. Does that mean I should shove a colostomy bag up your ass now then?
Can you site sources for this information? Or was it obtained through waterboarding?
Originally posted by C-JEAN
reply to post by C-JEAN
Hi again, good and nice persons.
Here is another "logic", to explain the WTC 1 & 2 non sens:
www.youtube.com...
Blue skies.
but science does tell us that the official story is physically impossible.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
For the first seven months and twenty or so days, terrorism was still being dealt with as a law enforcement matter, not a military one....and you question MY memory?
Khaled Sheikh Mohammed was the "operations" officer. Osama is the "commanding" officer. Does that suffice as an explanation?
I sure hope being a comedian isnt your day or night job.
Third, the US military doesnt give a rats behind about criminal charges.
First I get in trouble with the mods for posting "book length" answers...then I try the "cliff notes" for people like Griff and I confuse him appearently. Rather than list the several reasons why we went into Iraq, I will just go straight to the second question, and the answer is Yes. We were no longer going to risk him giving WMDs to terrorists.
Hmm forum tough guy appearently.....Dont confuse your possible future health issues with terrorism and concerns over terrorism. That doesnt even rank as apples and oranges....
I do not recall ABC, NBC, CNN using waterboarding..........of course with the memory recall shown by most....I understand why you wouldnt remember those stories.
Originally posted by fcsuper
but science does tell us that the official story is physically impossible.
Actually, the tower impacts have been studied a great length
Originally posted by Jezus
Originally posted by fcsuper
but science does tell us that the official story is physically impossible.
Actually, the tower impacts have been studied a great length
True, and those who have truly studied have found that the official story is a physical impossibility.
Engineers say official story of WTC 911 collapse is physical impossible
www.agoracosmopolitan.com...
9/11 Truth: What Happened to Building 7
video.google.com...#
''We built in enough redundancy to allow entire portions of floors to be removed without affecting the building's structural integrity, on the assumption that someone might need double-height floors,'' said Larry Silverstein, president of the company. ''Sure enough, Salomon had that need...
MORE than 375 tons of steel - requiring 12 miles of welding - will be installed to reinforce floors for Salomon's extra equipment. Sections of the existing stone facade and steel bracing will be temporarily removed so that workers using a roof crane can hoist nine diesel generators onto the tower's fifth floor, where they will become the core of a back-up power station.