Feds Grant Eminent Domain As Collateral To China For U.S. Debts!

in Case anyone has forgotten

5th Ammendment ( via wikipedia)

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.[1]

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I never thought I would be saying this. We need a real source. If this is confirmed, you can bet things are going to change fast.

Nothing much else to add till this is confirmed.

hres the complete 14th Ammendment link this time to save board space...

Why would eminent domain need to be invoked to effect this? The federal government already owns and controls about 30% of the land in the United States, directly:


From: strangemaps.wordpress.com...
Data source:U.S. General Services Administration, Federal Real Property Profile 2004

That's 65% of all land west of Denver.

Ha, all I can say is Mexico and the folks from La Raza are going to be really pissed over this.
They already think this land is their land, from Mexifornia to the Nueva York Islands.

Expect to see product tags that read:
"Hecho en China"

If its true, kill the politicians then the Chinese who invade.



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The only thing that's been confirmed is Mr. Turner's status as a purveyor of pulp. Check his wiki sometime. Even the white supremacist site I googled isn't buying this one.

Right - sic Glen Beck on it - perfect - Ho Man!

GL

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Glenn Beck, AND Lou Dobbs!!!

let's be 'fair and banlanced' eh???

EDIT....blanced....err.....balacned....errrr....well....darn tele-prom-ter!!!

THIS is what these bozos spout.....stuff they're fed!!!

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it stops the direct withdraw of Chinese investment in the US, Literally bringing down the financial systemas we know it.


Validity of public debt

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

This section confirmed that neither the United States nor any state would pay damages for the loss of slaves or debts that had been incurred by the Confederacy. For example, several English and French banks had loaned money to the South during the war.[24]

However this is subject to considerationsin further ammendments

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Hal Turner? Really?

This is totally bogus without a confirmed source.

I doubt this is real, however a note to all the posters saying "we will revolt..go to war, fight blah blah blah.."

Just have a peak at some statisticsabout the Chinese army. If China took over, and used their army, the USA would be wiped out in about 24 hours. A week later nearly every American home and business would be occupied by Chinese.

Have a nice day

The officers of our government are pledged under a solemn oath to protect the nation and the Constitution. They do not have the right under the Constitution to give eminent domain to any foreign power. Sorry.

The bull**** that comes up on this website never ceases to amaze me. Can we get something interesting going? Sounds like the media --- fear-mongering.

I'm not losing sleep over this tall tale.


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Originally posted by WatchNLearn
I doubt this is real, however a note to all the posters saying "we will revolt..go to war, fight blah blah blah.."

Just have a peak at some statisticsabout the Chinese army. If China took over, and used their army, the USA would be wiped out in about 24 hours. A week later nearly every American home and business would be occupied by Chinese.

Have a nice day

They wouldn't make it passed the West Coast unless the used nukes. Period. America is not a country you can invade unless you're willing to take massive losses just trying to get a landing on our shores. You have to deal with our military and a heavily armed population. I say good luck to them, they'll need it.

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Irrespective of....the valiant Chinese Army having greater numbers....your analogy falls short of reality....what, are they going to 'beam' in, ala Star Trek?

Here's something I can't quite get a grasp on....during the Bush Admin, talk like this wold have been stifled, and attributed to the 'Liberal Left Wing'...

NOW, it seems, talk like this is coming from the 'Radical Right Wing'....

It is the same diatribe....and same fear-mongering tactic....

STOP IT!!!!!

From...
caselaw.lp.findlaw.com...

The Supreme Court has approved generally the widespread use of the power of eminent domain by federal and state governments in conjunction with private companies to facilitate urban renewal, destruction of slums, erection of low-cost housing in place of deteriorated housing, and the promotion of aesthetic values as well as economic ones. In Berman v. Parker, 186 a unanimous Court ob served: ''The concept of the public welfare is broad and inclusive. The values it represents are spiritual as well as physical, aesthetic as well as monetary. It is within the power of the legislature to determine that the community should be beautiful as well as healthy, spacious as well as clean, well-balanced as well as carefully patrolled.'' For ''public use,'' then, it may well be that ''public interest'' or ''public welfare'' is the more correct phrase. Berman was applied in Hawaii Housing Auth. v. Midkiff, 187 upholding the Hawaii Land Reform Act as a ''rational'' effort to ''correct deficiencies in the market determined by the state legislature to be attributable to land oligopoly.'' Direct transfer of land from lessors to lessees was permissible, the Court held, there being no requirement ''that government possess and use property at some point during a taking.'' 188 ''The 'public use' requirement is . . . coterminous with the scope of a sovereign's police powers,'' the Court concluded. 189

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If the US defaulted on Treasuries, the Chinese would not bother with eminent Domain, the US Banking system collapses within 24 hours. There would not be anyone willing to buy UST, at that point there is nothing supporting the foundation of US debt. Within 48 hours your bank accounts are worthless, and the Govt would be forced to issue IOU to pay bills, which nobody would accept.
Game Over.

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Glen Beck = a muted Michael Savage minus the Ginsberg/liberal background.

Beck/Turner/Hannity/Savage = The Unholy Trinity + 1

GL

If the U.S. defaults, the entire world defaults.

At-least Zimbabwe would have a couple more members in its rather exclusive inflationary club.

Utter rubbish! And as if people would know the consensus that china made with the US. China has very tight lips. I'll say this is nothing more than fear mongering!

This is Hal Turner's crap. For those that haven't figured out what that means... it means it isn't real.

However, if it was real... well, it sure would be interesting to see that fight.

China might have over a billion people in its country, but only a tiny fraction of that is in their army. The actual trained military of China is only slightly larger than that of the U.S. - between 2 and 3 million people, depending on what source you go by.

That sounds like a lot, but by contrast, thanks to that Second Amendment that so many people would like to see destroyed, there are an estimated 80 million households in this country with a grand total of 260 million guns. With a population that just reached over 300 million, we even have enough people to field those weapons. That's 86 armed American combatants for every ONE of them.

Yeah, China has a billion people. But they don't have a billion soldiers, they don't have a way to get the soldiers they DO have over here, and they sure as heck don't have a billion guns.

Their only solution would be to nuke us, which would;
1. Make no sense to irradiate land they were trying to take over for their own use, and;
2. Result in a nuclear retaliation that would mean the end of China, if not mankind.

BUT, as has been stated...

This is just Hal Turner's crap.