The Nature of the Secret

Is this the Secret?...I had an epiphany concerning the nature of a King, specifically the One the Bible states was created directly by God or the Cosmos and placed on/in the Earth.

Colossians 1:16...For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-- all things have been created through Him and for Him.

Is a true King like some sort of Control Panel for the Earth? Is he capable of both observing, interacting with and changing at will everything that occurs in the world without having to consult with anyone?

When walking with my wife one day, I had the thought that when God's man is in the Earth and his Throne operates at full strength...the creation and every living thing in it is compelled to turn itself to address his presence....By Design.

Is this the real Secret...That in the Earth a person exists that is literally...The Owner of the World? And his ownership is confirmed not by force, but by the fact that he can literally change how society functions and doesn't have to first consult with anyone.

Is that really why all the violence exists? Because another has decided that "everyone must answer to someone"...Even God's man?

Originally posted by huckfinn
Is this the Secret?...I had an epiphany concerning the nature of a King, specifically the One the Bible states was created directly by God or the Cosmos and placed on/in the Earth.

Colossians 1:16...For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-- all things have been created through Him and for Him.

Is a true King like some sort of Control Panel for the Earth? Is he capable of both observing, interacting with and changing at will everything that occurs in the world without having to consult with anyone?

When walking with my wife one day, I had the thought that when God's man is in the Earth and his Throne operates at full strength...the creation and every living thing in it is compelled to turn itself to address his presence....By Design.

Is this the real Secret...That in the Earth a person exists that is literally...The Owner of the World? And his ownership is confirmed not by force, but by the fact that he can literally change how society functions and doesn't have to first consult with anyone.

Is that really why all the violence exists? Because another has decided that "everyone must answer to someone"...Even God's man?

Your answer is right in the scripture you gave.

This is why "god's man" said he was with everyone, "even till the end of the age".

See, people think this man came at one time, but this man has been walking the earth since he slay his righteous brother in the field.

His mark is a 7 in 4 directions and he was told, "in the day you do right, shall you not be accepted" so that in the end he said, "not my will father, but your will be done". That end has not yet come.

If people only understood that the story is a living story, they would see their part in it.

Peace

Peace

I once had a dream about a control panel, which was able to create and change things like mentioned. I don't remember details about it too much, but it was a weird dream to say the least.

But I don't think such is "the secret". Bit odd that would post about such a thing though after I had dreamed about it at least over a year ago.

I'm more in line with letther, and think of things as being present now, and about all, not just a single person.

Originally posted by badmedia
I once had a dream about a control panel, which was able to create and change things like mentioned. I don't remember details about it too much, but it was a weird dream to say the least.

But I don't think such is "the secret". Bit odd that would post about such a thing though after I had dreamed about it at least over a year ago.

I'm more in line with letther, and think of things as being present now, and about all, not just a single person.

I think your dream was about the Technological Singularity. I don't want to come off as if Everyone is not important, but I am postulating the existence on Earth of a Biological Singularity, a single person who is the living common ancestor to all Human life.

A single person who binds us in fact to one another.

Originally posted by huckfinn
I think your dream was about the Technological Singularity. I don't want to come off as if Everyone is not important, but I am postulating the existence on Earth of a Biological Singularity, a single person who is the living common ancestor to all Human life.

A single person who binds us in fact to one another.

I don't think importance really matters too much. I mean, all are important, and yet none more important than another.

The way I read that is all things are for the father. All of our experiences are for the father, who is within each of us and the only actual observer. The only true owner of souls(individual perspectives within the father).

The keyword in it I think would be this part "For by him were all things created".

By him all things were created, the heavens and earth and so it is talking about the father.

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But my question is...Does the Father actually live here on Earth? Does he carry a drivers license and do taxes?

In one of these houses...is the Father those books speak of actually here?

Does he live, work and eat just like all the rest of us?

And if so, isn't that a Secret, as noone ever talks about such a major topic.

That is my point.

Originally posted by huckfinn
reply to post by badmedia

 

But my question is...Does the Father actually live here on Earth? Does he carry a drivers license and do taxes?

In one of these houses...is the Father those books speak of actually here?

Does he live, work and eat just like all the rest of us?

And if so, isn't that a Secret, as noone ever talks about such a major topic.

That is my point.

Yes he does. He is you, he is me, he is all of us. That is why if you look, the sins are not just "bad things", but they are actual sins against god.

I am god, and I am arguing with myself(you). That is the true nature of reality. In the end, there is really only 1 of us, and that is the father.

John 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

And yes, it is a bit of a secret. This world is designed and manipulated so that you do not see or know it. That way you will sin against the father that is in others. When you realize and understand this, then you are born again. Everything Jesus says of himself is also true of you, it's just a matter of actually knowing and understanding it. They make Jesus into an idol and special so that you won't realize these things, so you will not see it in yourself, but then you also do not see it in others. Makes a bit more sense why you should love others as yourself when you understand the true nature of things. The commandments are there for good reason.

If you mean is there a single person that is the father, no I don't think so. The reason you are not to make idols of the father is not because he wants to keep you ignorant, but rather because an idol can never truly show the father.

I can go on about the 2 births, who the virgin really is(not Mary) and what it means to be born again and born of spirit if you'd like. Most of that would become obvious however if you ever experience John 14:20. It is a specific time as the verse says "on that day ye shall know". It's really not something anyone can tell you, but rather something you have to experience yourself.

know thyself.



[edit on 26-2-2009 by badmedia]

Originally posted by huckfinn
reply to post by badmedia

 

But my question is...Does the Father actually live here on Earth? Does he carry a drivers license and do taxes?

In one of these houses...is the Father those books speak of actually here?

Does he live, work and eat just like all the rest of us?

And if so, isn't that a Secret, as noone ever talks about such a major topic.

That is my point.

It's helpful to think of the totality of humanity as a singularity, or a single "man", so-to-speak. We often hear how everything is "connected". I would go even further and emphasize that everything is "one"...despite appearances. What appears as *many* is a *mask*. The mask is for a kind of masquerade. The masks hide the "Son of God" from himself. In other words, the mask wearers do not recognize each other as the "Son of God". If the mask wearers could/would look past/beyond the masks of "others", they would see "Christ". And seeing Christ, they would see themselves...appearing gloriously. These appearances reflect "the Father", as Jesus said, "if you have seen me you have seen the Father". He was talking about seeing beyond the mask of bodies to the glory beyond. That glory reflects the glory of the Father because the glory of Father and Son are the same, being equal. This glory can be seen in/beyond anyone who is *wearing* a body/mask. The mask wearers are lords in disguise. So, nothing can "happen" to the masks without prior agreement. The lords have misplaced their power, although they still retain it. They are working together to make a mechanical experience. The experience is very machine-like. The Father is not in the reflection of glory. The Father isn't "seen", because he abides in the realm of knowledge, not perception. The Father is known...or not. Perception has been provided with a reflection of his Son. We must "see" the Son first. Then let the Son lead us to *Our Father*.

Christ!




[edit on 26-2-2009 by Christ!]