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Originally posted by komp_uk
Maybe these guys
flew the stones about in these things
wild guess of course.
Originally posted by Hanslune
reply to post by bpg131313
They didn't use a crane they probably dragged it on a sledge with relays of windlass using wire rope.
There is an earlier link to a book on Roman construction techniques.
Originally posted by komp_uk
reply to post by Jinni
ATS and HOAX? surely it deserves more than that. How about
and
Originally posted by Jinni
Originally posted by komp_uk
Maybe these guys
flew the stones about in these things
wild guess of course.
The Giant pic is a hoax:
kedarsoman.wordpress.com...
However, I think Giants did once exist.
forums.canadiancontent.net...
The Heiroglyphs are said to be worn out glyphs that happen to resemble craft. Can;t find the debunking page though.
[edit on 23-2-2009 by Jinni]
largely unmovable due to natural composition
and getting it properly in place with the methods described is great on paper, but until it's proven to be done in reality (and not with any of those silly professors using scaled models and out in the middle of a flat area where nothing is in their way, and there's no other stones to match up to with the precision evidenced in Ballbek either), I'm just not able to believe it.
Though, I'd love Myth Busters to pull it off using the oxen and a huge stone of equal size from a quarry.
Hans: Well an argument from personal opinion based on be incredulously against it is fine but here is a question. We have two indisputable facts, the stones were quarried and moved. You can explain it based on what we know about Roman technology or we can bring in the "mysterious".
Hans: Sure come up with the hundreds of thousands of dollars to do this and someone will try.
Originally posted by Hanslune
The same questions keep being asked and the same answers being ignored.
The archaeologist will thus suppose that the platform of Baalbek, on which the Roman temples stand, must also belong to the Roman era. And he or she will thus explain the construction of the Trilithon by reciting what is known about Roman construction techniques. Thus the explanation involves the erection of the Trilithon by push-and-shove methods, with the Romans probably using nothing more than wooden rollers, ropes, wooden lifting frames and human muscle power.
Archaeologists typically overlook the fact that experiments with stones much lighter than 800 tons have crushed the wooden rollers. And even if such a method was feasible, it would, by one estimate, have required the combined pulling power of 40,000 men to move the Stone of the South.[5] Incredible indeed.
Originally posted by Fiverz
One question, how do we know exactly how much these stones weigh?
I mean it may seem stupid to ask, but how exactly are we determining the weight of a stone that's under a stone that's under another stone etc?
Originally posted by komp_uk
reply to post by Jinni
ATS and HOAX? surely it deserves more than that. How about
and
Originally posted by K.G.B.
Another arrow pointing to the paranormal, and unknown construction techniques. If we couldn't do it now, how many generations of slaves would it have taken to do it then.
Oh yeah, and the Earth is only 8K years old, according to the bible.
Yeah.......right.
Originally posted by Jinni
Originally posted by Fiverz
One question, how do we know exactly how much these stones weigh?
I mean it may seem stupid to ask, but how exactly are we determining the weight of a stone that's under a stone that's under another stone etc?
All one needs to do is find exactly the same rock, cut it into a 1ftx1ft sample stone. Measure the weight and volume of the sample rock. Determine volume of Baalbek stone. Divide Volume of Baalbek stone with sample stone volume. Multiply result with weight of sample rock.
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"The great mystery of the ruins of Baalbek, and indeed one of the greatest mysteries of the ancient world, concerns the massive foundation stones beneath the Roman Temple of Jupiter.
The lower courses of the outer wall are formed of huge, finely crafted and precisely positioned blocks. They range in size from thirty to thirty three feet in length, fourteen feet in height and ten feet in depth, and weigh approximately 450 tons each. Nine of these blocks are visible on the north side of the temple, nine on the south, and six on the west.
Above the six blocks on the western side are three even larger stones, called the Trilithon, whose weight is about 1000 tons each. These great stones vary in size between sixty-three and sixty-five feet in length, with a height of fourteen feet six inches and a depth of twelve feet.
Several other sources have confirmed the 1,000 ton estimate of the Trilithon stones. At least one other estimate of the Trilithon stone is over 800 tons.
Imagine an architect's specification that called for the foundation of a massive platform to be built of limestone blocks in sizes between 63 and 65 feet long, 14 feet 6 inches high and 12 feet deep and weighing in the neighborhood of 1,000 tons each.
The architects and engineers who built it in the first century BC left no indication of how they accomplished such a massive construction challenge. The limestone blocks were quarried about a quarter of a mile away from the construction site and made up the lower course of the foundation
This would translate into 19.5Mx4.33Mx3.6M=304 cubic meters. That is 730 tons assuming it is average limestone weighing 2.4 tons. They made a reference to high density limestone elsewhere on there site weighing 2.9 tons per cubic meter. They didn't say whether this was what the Baalbek stone was made out of but if it was it would be 882 tons. This is still short of the 1,000 ton estimate that is most common for the Trilithon stones. It appears as if it may have been exagerated and then repeated multiple times without being checked. Which means that the revised estimate should be 700 to 900 tons. this is still enormous and I can't imagine how it could have been transported up the hill which is supposed to be rough terrain although it is possible for a ramp of dirt or sand to have been built and dismantled without leaving a trace.