God is nothing.

ok ok this is for all people from all walks of life, wether your a builder,an inventor,a doctor or a mum at home. i just said that GOD IS NOTHING and i stand by that statement. here is how i came to that conclusion, well first i agree that god is all things and there is nothing that god is not. well to be all things then god would have to be no 1 thing in particular, or NO THING in particular. or NOTHING in particular..thats how god is nothing at all..

uhhhhhhh you lost me at nothing!

God is all, religion provides nothing but differentiated beliefs that all revolve around one thing. That one thing is that we were created by some type of supreme creator, and that it gave out morale stories so that we maybe able to live an awesome life. It gave us rules so that we have a basic understanding of what to do and what not to do. I stopped belief in religion because its controversy and arrogance overwhelms me, but i never stopped belief in god because i saw that he actually works with you if you really open your mind. I am no Christian, i am no Muslim, I am no Jew, I am not even Catholic, but i am Human. May peace go out to all and my all be ready for the forth coming changes may we all stay strong and always look the dark in its and forgive it for its ignorance because forgiveness is the strongest thing a man can do.

you're getting there. if God is all things then obviously God would have to be nothing because nothing is something. But like th e false statement alot of "enlightened" people like to say, which is "i know nothing" this is impossible, as knowing you know nothing is still knowing something. confusing isn't it, this philosophical talk is best consumed with some rastafarian medicine

But, instead of God being all things which means God is also nothing, switch it up. All things are God. Go from there. its more a spiritual thing than a religious thing. i expect to get flamed by at least one christian or muslim for saying this.

Love and Peace

Originally posted by M157yD4wn
you're getting there. if God is all things then obviously God would have to be nothing because nothing is something.

this of course is assuming that nothing is something.

its negative information. obviously, if you have something, inherently you will have the opposite state ¨nothing¨

but nothing is nothing more than an absract notion. we assume that because we live in a state with something, that there has to be a state of nothing. unfortunately, as long as there is something, nothing doesnt exist. you can have the 2 at the same time.

since we are something, god cannot be nothing because 1≠-1

i agree with you 100 % it just isn't possible for nothingness to exists, otherwise we wouldn't be posting. its like the "i know nothing" statement, it is impossible to know nothing as that means one KNOWS nothing, hence knowing something. you are quite correct.

i say All things are God, as that rules out the possibility of nothingness since all things do exist. im beginning to confuse myself

love and peace

Originally posted by miriam0566

Originally posted by M157yD4wn
you're getting there. if God is all things then obviously God would have to be nothing because nothing is something.

since we are something, god cannot be nothing because 1≠-1

God =0 And Zero =Nothing but it can also be everything. It is infinite.

Time is the relative to infinite (0). Everything that exist is a relative to Zero even a 1 or
-1. In the middle you will always finde 0. You either have something or you dont. Everything has a start except God who is zero. He always was and always is. There for everything that is created becomes 1.
When you create you create time. And time cant be zero (0). Time has to be put in. And you need a Zero to create time (1).

In the beginning God created remember that 0 created 1 the heavens and earth.

God said let there be light remember that 0 created light. What else could it come from.

Zero has no beginning and no end. It always is and always was.

Zero or nothing can also be a definition of everything. Because it is the source. Because God created everything out of nothing.


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That which is known as god is not "that"

God is neither the neither of neither...it simply is .."that" ...with out reflection
and now here comes the tricky part
one is 1
and one is two for a finite amount of possibilities ..(the divider)
that which is the creator of duality and lifes reflection
life's reflection of our mass imagination
A mass grand scale
that is consciously sensed as all life ..... sensed reality
and 2 is 1
One and the same and yet is neither

niether the neither of neither

in other words ...god can not be pointed at as either.. all or nothing

It simply is infinitely neither

Originally posted by xsheep

That which is known as god is not "that"

God is neither the neither of neither...it simply is .."that" ...with out reflection
and now here comes the tricky part
one is 1
and one is two for a finite amount of possibilities ..(the divider)
that which is the creator of duality and lifes reflection
life's reflection of our mass imagination
A mass grand scale
that is consciously sensed as all life ..... sensed reality
and 2 is 1
One and the same and yet is neither

niether the neither of neither

in other words ...god can not be pointed at as either.. all or nothing

It simply is infinitely neither

This is actually a better definition of time. Because 1 is not like it was a time ago. It has changed because of time.
God never changes he always is. 1 always changes Zero never changes it always is.

spy 66 wrote

"This is actually a better definition of time. Because 1 is not like it was a time ago. It has changed because of time.
God never changes he always is. 1 always changes Zero never changes it always is."



very true and that is why time which also creates space
are both part of the grand illusion of separateness ...(duality)

Originally posted by M157yD4wn
i agree with you 100 % it just isn't possible for nothingness to exists, otherwise we wouldn't be posting. its like the "i know nothing" statement, it is impossible to know nothing as that means one KNOWS nothing, hence knowing something. you are quite correct.

i say All things are God, as that rules out the possibility of nothingness since all things do exist. im beginning to confuse myself

love and peace

you post an interesting point. if there was nothingness, then we wouldnt be posting.

i think the equation for that would be 0+0=0 (nothing plus nothing = nothing). no matter how many times you perform this calculation, it would come out the same.

if something where to change in that equation, for example 0+1=1, the it would collapse as a paradox. because if 1 existed, then 0 can't. so there is nothing to equate, it would simply be 1=1 or 1. this would imply that 0 is a nonexistant concept.

meaning it is theoretical. in other words, we can theorize and try to image what 0 is like, but it doesnt exist, it exists only as a negative concept

----------- to spy:

there is a reason im not equating god with 0. and that is because he is 1 individual, one "something" so i used 1 as a counter. although i do understand your analogy.

the nothingness that exists before all of us is surely where God is.....the empty space between you and your keyboard, much less between you and another person, or object is nothing and surely exists.......doesn't it?

Heh.....try and forget some of the other complex theories.


More simply put.

God is not a conscious being. If god we're to be a conscious being, god's brain would allegedly have to be a super computer of monumental proportions. God would also have to have a way of controlling things if chosen to.


However, I do believe god's "Angels", or "Higher Consciousness" entities, have played a great role in the evolution of man, and the evolution of life it's self on many aspects. I believe that we are all an energy, regardless of what we see in the mirror, as this dimension is just a prelude to the next, and to the next. At which point, I believe, one day, many years away, we will all become "God" ourselves, after we pass on, and learn what our spiritual journey is and complete it. Then, we will eventually one day be reincarnated into essentially what we are right now.

Life is just a big game.

This thread would make more sense if the first poster said which god was going to be the subject matter . Isn't there loadsa gods out there? My particular god is visible - it's that big orange disc in the sky which keeps me alive ! Not a god that is invisible which someone else told me about .

When you add 0+0=0 you get a confirmation that God cant create him self. That is how i see that equation. Because God cant create a new God that has no beginning or any end meaning infinite. We all know that 0 is infinite.
Zero can be anything because it is related to everything that exists. Because you either have something or you have nothing. Matter or no matter.

Meaning in the beginning there was nothing but God. And God created something that becomes nr 1. God cant be nr 1. Because then some one must have created God. God must have had a beginning if He is nr 1.
A 1 cant be infinite. If you use your equation 0+1=1 Who or what is 0(infinite).

You can give Zero (0) a different name. You can call zero for God.

To clear this up it would make more sense if space was nothing and not God. Because if space was nothing it can be infinite. And the matter inside it would have space to expand or have time. Then God could become nr 1. pr definition. Then the equation 0+1=1 would make sense. And God which is the first could expand for ever.
But this ruins the idea that God never changes. Or always existed. Because nothing or the infinite existed before Him.
This means that everything must have existed before God. And God used everything that existed to create.

But if space and God = 0+0=0 you have something that makes even more sense. Because God must have a space to be in or a part of. And if God is infinite he cant be smaller then space it self. God has to be the boundary of everything if not he cant be in charge.





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To miriam


I know because we have given the infinite source a name "God". Which gives the source a number or a definition of order or a personality. But only one source can be infinite.





[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

My apologies. I read this thread from the top and now I need to take a nap.

I'm kind of more interested as to when the McRib is coming back.

Maybe I had to much vodka last night, but I have no idea what you fine people are talking about.

Originally posted by prjct
the nothingness that exists before all of us is surely where God is.....the empty space between you and your keyboard, much less between you and another person, or object is nothing and surely exists.......doesn't it?

well, yes. it does in a way.
but i was talking more of absolute nothingness

There is no God...

It was simple people misinterpreting things...

A person with a Myostatin disability could have been interpreted as a God

A waste of your time and mine.
If you want to study and understand the nature of God, no matter which discipline you chose, you need to start at the beginning.
And the study of God, is an actual "study". Just jumping on an aspect of the study that you think is "cool" or "interesting" is the same thing as looking at a new car, and thinking it looks good.

And, the last thing on earth that you would want to do, is discuss the subject with faceless people in a message board.