State Senator Dan Patrick… “TEXAS NATIONAL GUARD ON ALERT

6000 reported deaths ,just last year in Mexico due to the drug war.That is more people killed then in Iraq since 2001 combined.The US government needs to pay more attention on whats going on in Mexico,before it's to late.I live in a border town,I see and hear the violence that's going on in the border cities.The cartels are real violent and kill,alot of people.But the media in the US,does not hear or report r the whole story.

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Sometimes I wish I still lived in Texas. I lived there for two years while I was in the Army. That state is run correctly. The last stand of the real America ...

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One of them said clearly: We need leadership.

Is George Bush going to provide leadership for Texas? Could that be the hidden agenda?

Damn the search function sucks here! There was a recent thread to the effect of "Latin American Leaders Denounce Drug War Policy" and I couldn't find it. Anyway, I know the ownership and leadership of this site has not much tolerance for criticism of drug policy, but legalization of marijuana would take a whopping hell of a lot of power out of the Mexican gangs. To say this world has gone insane is an understatement.

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If they do that, they will lose the monopoly.

And who do you think THEY are? Just Mexicans?

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Of course they're in league with governments and are greedy bastages. I'm just talking about a war on organized crime being more important than a war on drugs; at least ideally.

Interesting that Allen Stanford's alleged drug trafficking involvement is now emerging - so soon after he was heralded on the cover of the Jan/Feb 2009 issue of World Finance as the One in a Billion, Stanford the original philanthrocapitalist:

World Finance's 2008 Man of the Year award was bestowed upon Sir Allen Stanford as he clearly stood out when, two years ago, he began cautioning those in the financial services industry that an impending global economic storm was brewing. His ability to lead the Stanford Financial organisation through this current turbulent environment unscathed and his commitment to philanthropic causes in the cities around the world where Stanford conducts business were the deciding factors in selecting him as this year's award recipient.

Some of the real dirt has to be revealed now the subpoenas are issued. But we're supposed to believe the FBI have been incapable until now of gathering evidence on the drugs money laundering and we are supposed to believe that he's just one bad egg in a financial industry that isn't rotten to the core with illegal drug and weapons profiteering.

Agents claim he is more worried over alleged links to a Mexican drug gang, which beheads and mutilates victims, than he is about being found by the authorities.

Sir Allen, FBI sources say, is suspected of money laundering for the "Gulf Cartel" and the crooks may fear for their funds.

It has been claimed Mexican authorities recently seized one of the 58-year-old's aircraft after allegedly finding cheques on board linked to the Gulf Cartel.

Past probes sought to tie Stanford to drugs Houston Chronicle, 20 Feb '09.

Sir Allen Stanford fears over alleged links to a Mexican drug gang Mirror, 21 Feb '09.





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I swear I am going to move to Texas. That state I just cool. They don't take Sh**. If the United States ever split up, Guess which state would be a super power....TEXAS. I have nothing but good things to say about Texans. I look up to them.

War is always business.
War on drugs is like the other gang wars, it is about sharing. They must be incorporated into the bigger system, or else...
State has monopoly on authority, so they must be assimilated.
Why they won't legalize drugs is another question. I believe it's because certain state services want to keep their monopoly on it and screw the rest of the clan out of it. Keep it out from public eye.

All,

You are all playing a part in the movie. Keep to the script and see where we end up.

I Just got back from Matamoros, Mexico and did not see anything but several poor people trying to make a living.

I was in Tijuana, Mexico in September and was all about the city and seen nothing. While talking to a native of Tijuana about the portrayed violence and crime she made a startling revelation about their views. At that time it was on the news in Mexico about a lady that had microwaved her baby some where in America and they thought it was the most horrid thing. So she was viewing us as some kind of sick society that she was afraid of as much as they are trying to drive fear into us about Mexico. There was a shooting downtown while I was there involving the police and drug dealers but the same thing happens in L.A. every day.

Texas Is full of camera's and has a military check point inside the united states were I was pulled over and harassed by the military. This was I thought going against the Constitution of the United States? Guess no one cares things will just get much worse. Keep watching The movie....

Not all is as it seems.

You guys think you got trouble from those crazy Mexicans and all thier meth, black heroin, Mexican coicane mixed in with that god awful tequila!

Wait until those 22 million strong pot smoking, beer drinking, Whiskey swilling Canadians get rilled up.

Hide your daughters and lock up yer wives...the Canadians are coming as soon as the Stanely Cup is over.

Viva la Texas

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
All,

You are all playing a part in the movie. Keep to the script and see where we end up.

I Just got back from Matamoros, Mexico and did not see anything but several poor people trying to make a living.

I was in Tijuana, Mexico in September and was all about the city and seen nothing. While talking to a native of Tijuana about the portrayed violence and crime she made a startling revelation about their views. At that time it was on the news in Mexico about a lady that had microwaved her baby some where in America and they thought it was the most horrid thing. So she was viewing us as some kind of sick society that she was afraid of as much as they are trying to drive fear into us about Mexico. There was a shooting downtown while I was there involving the police and drug dealers but the same thing happens in L.A. every day.

Texas Is full of camera's and has a military check point inside the united states were I was pulled over and harassed by the military. This was I thought going against the Constitution of the United States? Guess no one cares things will just get much worse. Keep watching The movie....

Not all is as it seems.

Oh OH!

ds

Some loser reporter must have the Mexican beat and pays some payola for some over the top news stories.

Originally posted by Psyrion
Mmk...I'm sorry, but this isnt new news. I LIVE on the border, and I can tell you hands down that we hear about oh...20-30 shootings a day, mostly cops and business owners being murdered, bodies being found, such and so forth.

Believe me, the problem will not spill over, and should it do so, the Border Patrol HERE can easily handle it.

20-30? Way to exaggerate . . .

It is about 5-10 . . . if that.

If you think you are safe because of the gents in the booths at the bridges, you are fooling yourself.

They can't even stop the unarmed flood of Mexican citizens . . . what makes you think they will be able to stop this?
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Here is a video of what is going on, and a reporter in the middle of the gun battle:

mexicanal.com...

It is in spanish . . . but the video and the sounds are . . . wow

And here is where this is happening

Google Map: Reynosa, Tamaulipas, Mexico

It is literally on the border.

The county on our side is Hidalgo county. It is the most populated county on the TX/Mex border. It has more residents than the city of Baltimore.

The main city in Hidalgo county is McAllen, TX. It's population is ~720,000. McAllen is a 10 minute drive from the border.

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Then of course [tin foil hat on!!] maybe those in washington want something to happen as a good excuse for:
a- A distraction for the american public so that other things can get done unnoticed.
b- A reason to pass more laws to help keep us safe ...
c- _____________ (insert something here that just doesn't make sense.)

here you are: c) Let the immediate areas around the border become destabilized, then offer those poor 'innocents' the opportunity to become legalized citizens.


Can we nuke Mexico? huh? huh? Can we? PLEEEEASE?

Is it just me or do they have Computers in Mexico?

Why don't we have any Mexician Posters commenting/filling us in on the situation there?

Is this stranger than fiction or what?

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its not going to come to my door step...i live in tx on the border and everything is just peachy...

I agree with an above user about "[people who] keep watching American Idol and hoping it doens't show up on [their] doorstep."

My issue is the misdirected anger. Worst case scenario, people become overly generalizing, focusing all anger on "immigrants". Listen, the war on drugs is a joke. Marijuana, which is less dangerous to your health than cigarettes - and less dangerous to the public than alcohol - is STILL illegal. Why? The founding fathers grew it. Cultures around the world have known about its commercially viable properties. And yet we feel this awkward need to come down so frickin' hard on users and growers. If it were legal, we would eliminate so many tax payer funded prisoners. We would also get rid of a large portion of crime and gang activity on the boarder.

And coke? Well, think about our friendship with Colombia. Talk about corruption. Jesus. Paraphrasing Noam Chompsky: More Colombians die of tobacco related diseases than Americans who die of coc aine overdoses, yet you don't see Colombian military in the Carolinas, firebombing tobacco fields.

We are WAY out of whack with our rational and good sense when it comes to prioritizing what's important. You have pundits on the TV who go on and on about how "nationalized medicine" is bad because you are going to have to drive 200 miles to see your doctor. Puh-lease. I've been to countries with socialized medicine and experienced the health care system. While here in the US (I can't afford health insurance) I end up having to go to the emergency room and then am anything but capable of paying the bill (to be footed by taxpayers anyway). If you are already wealthy and have healthcare as it is, you are already dealing with "in-network" / "out-of-network" issues. If you can afford it, you go where you choose because of the doctor. If you can't you don't (and believe me, many people in this country don't!

Another subject pundits are trying to push include "non-environmentalism" as though "us Amerircans who don't want to give up our 'toys' (hummers, convertibles, etc.) for fuel efficiency" - as though convertible and alternative fuel are somehow mutually-exclusive. Also, FEAR - the FOXREICH volks are saying that Obama's use of fearmongering is akin to what the "liberals" accused Bush of doing over the war on terror. MAJOR DIFFERENCE?!? - The economy is an important issue that DOES need to be addressed. The war to further Dick Cheney's stock options was NOT.

Wake up people (not just users on this forum). Things are not right, and to say a new Mexican Civil war is breaking out and overflowing into the US does not make it a "Civil War" unless we're already one country. Ridiculous stances on labor and drug-control by our own government towards the Mexican citizen has fueled any violence they do have. And NAFTA sucking the life out of sustainability. Gotta love it.

NAFTA, 'cause the best place for a Mexican farmer isn't in his fields, it's in the maquiladoras - making crap that Americans (who believe in some sort of arbitrary socio-racial class distincting) can then buy on credit, even though they don't really need it...God, that there makes some perfect sense!

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I am from the Valley and McAllen does not have 720,000 residents are u kidding me...ahahah...gets ur facts straight... it has about 100,000 people...i'm from Brownsville which is the largest city in the Rio Grande Valley with the population of around 200,000

i don't know where ur getting ur information from, but it is VERY incorrect

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Rival drug gangs terrorize Mexican town

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For people caught inside Mexico's drug corridors, life is about keeping your head down and watching your back.

No town knows this better than Villa Ahumada, where the entire police force quit after 70 cartel hit men roared through killing the police chief, two officers and three townspeople. Soon after, the rest of the 20-member force quit in fear.
Residents were left defenseless again last week when gunmen returned and kidnapped nine people, despite the soldiers manning checkpoints.
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Does the nitpicking really matter?

Whatever the exact count of Valley residents doesn't change the story here, the TX govt is stepping in to fill he Fed's void and that is commendabl.