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Efficient gyroscopic propulsion design

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posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 11:44 AM
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At the bottom of this page is a sample of a gyroscopic propulsion device that I like to call, "The Great Disinformation Gyro": www.gyroscopes.org...

In this picture you see a device that appears to incorporate the most efficient way to exploit all possible gyroscopic forces for maximum amount of lift.

If you are an engeneer that happens on to a truly effective design for gyroscopic propulsion your first draft of the model might look a little like this.

Then for the sake of saving time and money because you found your design on the net you will chase down all available information concerning it. Finally you discover that this design only generated a few extra non applicable ounces of lift..

What happened? Well - First of all the device you are looking at in the picture is designed to, "propel" downwards confusing the would be inventor who is trying to produce lift.

Secondly, the farther apart the gyros are on their, "lift/propulsion" side from the axis, the less use of the gyroscopic force you will have.

So now you have seen your device won't work. You dismiss the idea all-together. For them it is problem solved. You won't pursue it. Your problem is that you have just dismissed the most efficient design possible to use gyroscopic forces to produce drive.. I am not going to tell you; I am showing you; now..

First it is important that you see the basic mechanical movement of the device. Then I will explain the math applied in order to get maximum use of the gyroscopic forces generated.

Here is a page with video, "that barely plays" for example for proper assembly and directions of spin: www.youtube.com...
I will attempt to fix video later.

Nikola Tesla had a friend that used this principal. Sorry can't find patent now.. He also talked to someone around mars using primative radio equipment.. In the patent that I did see, though the principal appears correct; the math itself for the craft, "shown" in the patent would not have worked.

No I have not built it. However if you understand the principal, then the engeneering math is obvious.

So how do you maximize the math of the design in order to get the most out of the gyroscopic forces available? By splitting the main axel in order to bring the, "weight" edge of the gyros as closly together as possible on the lift side you will retain this part of the gyroscopic force.

Running these gyros out at a 45° angle from the top will give you the least downward force while retaining the maxumim lift.

We will begin by assuming a 10 pound weight at the top and the bottom of the heavy red and white [tungsten]part of the gyro with an 18 inch diameter, at 2000 RPM.. Sample math for this design goes like this:

1.5' Dia. Gyro - Multiplied by Pi, or 3.14159 = 4.712 X 2000 RPM = 9424.7779 Feet Per Minute. Divide that by 60 seconds = 157.0796 Feet Per Second.

157.0796 Times 157.0796 = 24674.01016 multiply that by the mass,
being, 10 pounds = 246740.1016.

Divide 246740.1016 by gyro radius - .75 Feet = 328986.802145

Divide 328986.802145 by 32.2 feet per second and this gives you a totol of 10216.98143 pounds of outward force at the top and at the bottom.

The next object being, getting rid of the downward pull of the gyroscopic forces. You will want a 2 : 1 rotation. For every turn of the entire mecanism, [1000 RPM] the gyros turn twice.

This means that as a result of the direction of the spin of mechanism and gyros, the top of the gyros turn twice while the bottom is only turning one time in the relation to the machine, [that which you are trying to lift].

When it comes to velocity, when you double your speed you quadruple your force, so that for every10,000 pounds of lift, you only have 2,500 pounds of downward pressure.. This leaves you 7,500 pounds of lift, witH something you can pedal especially if u encase it with a vacuume.


[edit on 19-2-2009 by noconsequence]



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 09:56 AM
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Just so you know; you would need roller bearings for the mechanism providing near zero friction, and thrust, [true turn] bearings on the end of the gyros; a lubricating system with, "back-pressure", normal things.

You would need heavy metal rings for the lift psrt of the gyros, and light metal for the ends of the gyros.

The frame is off in order to demonstrate the movement of the gyros. By encasing it in a vacume you would be able to pedal it and lift a large craft.

I am suggesting that Tesls's friend that made a craft using this same principal is who Tesla was talking to around mars; making our race space travelers since around 1900..

What do you think corporate has been doing?


[edit on 8-6-2009 by noconsequence]



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 04:23 AM
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Hi,

got a referreal to chat with you re: inertial harmonic navigation

Stargate tech?

HADES



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 04:57 AM
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The problem of this theory is it will actually violate the Conservation of Momentum, thus, also violating Conservation of Energy.

Don't think that I'm close-minded, I also made attempts at trying to violate CoM and CoE. All attempts that what seemed to have violated those laws resulted in unwanted production of lethal radiation - UV rays and X-rays.



posted on Jun, 27 2009 @ 03:29 AM
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Originally posted by ahnggk
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The problem of this theory is it will actually violate the Conservation of Momentum, thus, also violating Conservation of Energy.

Don't think that I'm close-minded, I also made attempts at trying to violate CoM and CoE. All attempts that what seemed to have violated those laws resulted in unwanted production of lethal radiation - UV rays and X-rays.
any details on these methods to violate them? I'm pretty sure the requirements of CoM and CoE have never been violated.



posted on Sep, 5 2009 @ 09:24 AM
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Just noticed that people have responded to the thread.

ahnggk;
The point not to be overlooked is that the radiation in space is important to block out; meaning you would have to have insulation such as gold foil/lead/encase craft with an arc of field; etc..

science lol
Yeah; the x-ray thing was a little over the top.. Wasn't it? Simple engineering/cause and effect.. If it comes down to it, math is math..

If you notice there are no known working models of Otis T. Carrs' device.. I believe the structure and movements described in the model above demonstrates the true way that Otis T. Carr achieved anti-gravity..

No consequencE..

Thank you.



posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 11:03 AM
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Here just put new vid on youtube at:

www.youtube.com...

Edit to say, you should be able to make it power itself by turning the gyros into the turn on a spring like device that will act as a governor.

No consequencE..

Thank you.

[edit on 7-9-2009 by noconsequence]



posted on Jan, 26 2015 @ 05:46 AM
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a reply to: noconsequence
Wow this is a old post my theory is almost the same with a few modifications good to see it on the net



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