The Break up of the Union is PART of the conspiracy.

Am I the only one who can see thru this?
It's not as if none of this was accounted for or even planed.
The States are suppposed to secced from the Union and that will spark civil disobedience followed by revolt and civil war, at which point the feds(after declaring martial law) will be justified for locking up American citizens for being enemy combatants.

We are sooooo close to everything us tin foil wearers of the hat have been saying for years now. It's not just going to come screeching to a halt just because a few states wouln't play ball. THEY ARE PLAYING BALL!!!!!
They are doing exactly as they are told. They are going to cause a civil uprising which will quickly escalate to full blown, all out, balls to the walls, CIVIL WAR!!!!!!!

Is it just me??????

[edit on 18-2-2009 by outatime]

With the exception of California, no state could succeed on its own, and last I checked, their budget was facing a $50 billion shortfall.

Originally posted by stevegmu
With the exception of California, no state could succeed on its own, and last I checked, their budget was facing a $50 billion shortfall.

I'm offended by this statement... lol, just kidding and being eccentric. But seriously Texas could as well.

I'm not convinced that the question is which states could seceed, but instead which states would seceed.

I just don't understand why no one understands that everything will be ok. Please get with the program, and LEARN the new words of our national anthem.

Civil war?
Are you sure about this?
that means Americans fighting Americans..... that would mean the country would somehow divide and fight the other side.

I don't see that happening at all. If you do please give some details of what states are going to fight what states over what issue??
WHY would the folks in Michigan take up arms and shoot the folks in Illinois? Please explain to me why you think this is imminent.

What part of the union has broken away?
Is it you think the states claiming sovereignty are breaking away somehow? Please explain how........

A revolutionary war is where the people rise up to fight off the current form of government............doesn't THAT sound more like what your trying to say in your post?


To me....I think you don't know of what you speak...
Prove me wrong please.



[edit on 18-2-2009 by theRiverGoddess]

Rather than undertake the burdon of proving anything I will let time do the talking. You see, time will give the answers you seek.
I would love nothing more than to be wrong. Unfortunately for you,
I'm not.

I'll see you in the camps I'm sure.
From the outside.

The only civil war I foresee happening is the poor and once what was middle class against the rich.

Other than that it is revolution. If we end up having a revolution, which will be very very very bloody by the way, I wonder what will happen to the rest of the world.

The last thing we want is a revolution in America. The very real possibility of nukes getting lobbed becomes part of the picture.

Trust me Revolution is not in the plans of the NWO, there is no way for them to quell an uprising. It could very easily turn into a global revolution. Nobody wants that.

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OK so we are supposed to take the word for this from somebody who logs onto ATS and is spreading the "WORD" and we are supposed to take it as if we have just been given manna from heaven.

if you look at this map.. from the TV series Jericho...


you see clearly defined "red" and "blue" sides..

maybe the "red list" and "blue list" don't denote level of execution.. but rather.. which "faction" you'll be relocated to.. to fight against the other side? in a civil war?

and yeah.. OP you're on point. .iv'e thought of this awhile. everyone's cheering for these states breaking off..
they'll break off and reunite together in 2 or 3 clumps maybe more.. all by design.
and according to my theory here.. something like the eavesdropping or data gathering programs on the internet.. or carnivore.. can group you into a specific demographic according to your "flag words"...

not for abduction an execution...
but for arming the sides of a future civil war...

literally.. a polarized ex-country... with people of one belief on one side and the opposite on the other.. literally.. relocated.. and placed east vs west..

with a 3rd "republic" defending itself against all...

just a thought..

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[edit on 18-2-2009 by prevenge]

Hrmmm... This sounds like the ramblings of the Russian professor that predicted the US would break up by the end of the year or something.

California is an extremely interesting case though, the world's 8th largest economy unable to pass its budget:

It's becoming a cliché: California lawmakers again fail to reach agreement on a budget. As California engages in a budget battle that has left the government of the world's eighth largest economy slipping toward insolvency, Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and the Democratic legislative majority continue to search for one last Republican vote to pass a budget.

www.time.com...

Here in Australia, pork barreling keeps our states ticking over if they run budget deficits.

Would the fed bail out individual states I wonder...

[edit on 18-2-2009 by mattguy404]

reply to post by mattguy404

Would the fed bail out individual states I wonder...

Matt, each time that the government bails out some organization or group, it gets closer and closer to the point of no return. We, as well as the world, are already so in debt, that there is no way that the debt will ever be able to be paid back. Default on those debts is hardly an option either. When countries default, the countries that were the lenders tend to take that very poorly, usually going to war is their attempt to "collect".
I am afraid that the world is quickly reaching the point of no return.

I think the US is going to take us to the brink of collapse and then will tell us that the only way for us to survive is to join forces with Canada and Mexico. By then most people will be so desperate they would sign a pact with the devil if they had to.

Just my theory.

Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
The only civil war I foresee happening is the poor and once what was middle class against the rich.

Other than that it is revolution. If we end up having a revolution, which will be very very very bloody by the way, I wonder what will happen to the rest of the world.

The last thing we want is a revolution in America. The very real possibility of nukes getting lobbed becomes part of the picture.

Trust me Revolution is not in the plans of the NWO, there is no way for them to quell an uprising. It could very easily turn into a global revolution. Nobody wants that.

The poor are generally too busy getting high or drunk to get organized.

Real possibility of nukes? Not at all.

I think every time this topic comes up I feel like telling people the US is like one of those Chinese finger puzzles where the more you try and pull it apart it gets tighter.

On the other hand I know there is bad blood between Woonsocket Rhodes Island and Whittier California bad blood really bad

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That's exactly what I've been wondering

All of the stimulus spending in the US, Europe, now in Australia, no one is talking much about where the heck that money is coming from.

Australian mining interests are about to be snapped up by China's investment body, because the mining company has so much debt that it can't pay up without being bailed out by China.

Something is seriously wrong, printing money isn't a good enough answer.

[edit on 19-2-2009 by mattguy404]

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
I just don't understand why no one understands that everything will be ok. Please get with the program, and LEARN the new words of our national anthem.

could you paste the new words here.. and a link to where it's officially new?

i cant see the video because of technical reasons on my end.

thanks

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[edit on 19-2-2009 by prevenge]

reply to post by mattguy404

That's exactly what I've been wondering All of the stimulus spending in the US, Europe, now in Australia, no one is talking much about where the heck that money is coming from. Australian mining interests are about to be snapped up China's investment body, because the mining company has so much debt that it can't pay up without being bailed out by China. Something is seriously wrong, printing money isn't a good enough answer.

Matt, my friend, you obviously understand the situation. Having spend almost a half century in business and economics, for the first time in my life, I fear for the future of my children and my grandchildren.

Originally posted by mattguy404
reply to post by ProfEmeritus

 

That's exactly what I've been wondering

All of the stimulus spending in the US, Europe, now in Australia, no one is talking much about where the heck that money is coming from.

Australian mining interests are about to be snapped up China's investment body, because the mining company has so much debt that it can't pay up without being bailed out by China.

Something is seriously wrong, printing money isn't a good enough answer.

I think it is pretty obvious this fiasco will be paid for through tax increases.

reply to post by outatime

No you’re not the only one to some extent. Funnily enough governments are to benefit the most from “this” imminent civil war in the long run. Because when the states screw up on their own or fail their people, they just can’t blame the government anymore.