If The Official Story Is True, Why Hasn't Gov't Sued?

We've got people selling DVD's all over the place. Just off the top of my head:

911 In Plane Sight
911 Ripple Effect
The PentaCon
Truth Rising
September Clues
Painful Deceptions

and plenty more.

So if the official story is true, and the government is prepared to defend their story, then why has no one from the government sued or brought charges against the producers of these DVDs for slander and fraud? I mean if it is fraud then clearly people are being ripped off, and the government has a duty to protect the people from fraud!

Uhhh, maybe because they'd be terrified to actually enter a discovery process?

Totally agree, from what I've seen there should be enough to start several major deformation lawsuits but then, hey, that might involve evidence... justice?

And even if they 'won' the returns probably wouldn't be high enough. Cynical - me? :-)

Peace!

lol, thanks for the flags and stars folks. A very simple question indeed.

And you know, this question just popped into my mind out of nowhere, never really thought of it before. But it leads me to something else I want to run by yas.

What if a bunch of us were to get together and file a class action suit against all these DVD producers alleging fraud, deception, loss of money for purchasing them, and causing us extreme discomfort and loss of faith in our government. We could get an attorney to represent us and force a discovery process. You see, that's the problem. Morgan Reynolds, Judy Woods, April Gallop, and others have tried but have all failed to get a judge to allow discovery process.

I am feeling pretty uncomfortable with all this. How about you's? Do you feel ripped off? Those bad bad producers, they ripped us off and fed us lies. I want my money back, and none of them are granting me a refund!

reply to post by TrueAmerican


Think you might win before you even start....?

But more likely, there will be a non-disclosure enforcement that will result in the invovement of FISA and at best, a 50:50 split of costs and damages!

I like the logic though! :-)

Peace!

reply to post by The Wave


Well hey, I called Craig, and nope, no refund there, right Craig? Tried Alex and he said no way, right Alex?! And Dave, well, he's kinda like a musician you know, and we don't make much money. He can't afford refunds, how about it Dave? And Eric, well he's run out of money, no refund either- ain't that right Eric? And you know those guys that produced September Clues, well, they spent so much time and money on all nine parts of that production, that they are in no position to even think about refunds, right guys?

But hey, I want my money back!

Alternatively,

We could always rename ourselves and bring a case against the government that we had been ripped off just a little - you know the sort of thing... houses bombed, infrastructure disabled, accidental non-collateral damage etc....? Wouldn't necessarily bring the truth to the fore but....

Peace!

I think the Neocons way overplayed their hand.

Yes, they got what they wanted, a firm-up for Israel and a boatload of loot for themselves, but at what a cost. Everybody, with the exception of three debunkers on ATS, thinks that they are transparent felons. They are scared to death of the courts. They don't want anything going to court, except for the kangaroo courts at Gitmo and Obama is putting a stop to that.

But it's a whole new ball game now. The thugs are out and the slimeballs are now up to bat. Watch for a lot of base stealing.

There will be no suing, because a court case means media airtime and articles, which will increase public awareness that the whole sorry affair was an inside job.

Out of sight, out of mind.

At least, thats what they hope...

reply to post by Daystar


But but, what about lil ole me and the thousands of others who just want their money back from these deceptive DVD producers? I mean hey, fraud is fraud, right? They can't be allowed to just go on deceiving the public right?

edit: hmm, let's see....7 flags, some stars.... Countdown to government shill intercept in 3...2....1.....

[edit on Mon Feb 16th 2009 by TrueAmerican]

I'm not really understanding the logic here.

In the eyes of the government, the 9/11 conspiracy videos are simply false and fake.

So should the government start suing hollywood companies who make films like The Day The Earth Stood Still?

reply to post by Diplomat


Ahhh no. See, the big difference here is that all these videos are being marketed as documentaries. In other words, specifically espousing truth. We have been deceived!

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
We've got people selling DVD's all over the place. Just off the top of my head:

911 In Plane Sight
911 Ripple Effect
The PentaCon
Truth Rising
September Clues
Painful Deceptions

and plenty more.

So if the official story is true, and the government is prepared to defend their story, then why has no one from the government sued or brought charges against the producers of these DVDs for slander and fraud? I mean if it is fraud then clearly people are being ripped off, and the government has a duty to protect the people from fraud!

Uhhh, maybe because they'd be terrified to actually enter a discovery process?

Or because America isn't a police state after all ;-)

Let's look at the other side of your coin...if such lawsuits were filed, you'd be here claiming "see?!? they know that we're onto them and now they're trying to stop us! We must be right!!!".

Since none of these videos comes out and outright accuses anyone of a crime, there wouldn't be any clear case of slander. There isn't a case to be made for fraud either. Sure, it's despicable that some people try to make money off of the 9/11 tragedies, but there's a fine line between selling conspiracy theory snake-oil and outright fraud.

I think there's so many documentary's that the government couldn't sue one without suing the rest. This would be a big waste of the governments time.

They have better things to be doing or "not" doing.

[edit on 16-2-2009 by iced_blue]

Good point on that other "person"'s thread TA. I'll quote your last response here for discussion/convenience and reply below:

Umm no bro. I have suspected it for a very long time. I didn't figure my mentioning that I am indeed starting up a small group here (that's true) would elicit such a blatant response, exposing the truth. I have a gut feeling about many others too. One just came out and admitted it in the last few days on another thread. Is this place crawling with them?

I wanna know what you guys think on this, because frankly it would seem that goes against the T&C, does it not? To intentionally disrupt, confuse and harass? I know that's got to be a hard thing to do for staff to decide, but jeez, what more do they need? I hate to ask for a ban on anyone but enough's enough! When it becomes rather obvious, it would seem to me it's time to act. But then again, that is a staff decision, and I ain't messin with that. Wouldn't mind some other opinions- maybe in my other thread there in my sig. It pains me to even give this person points with my replies. But wtf, gotta do it. -- TrueAmerican

I know that a certain person used to declare "the death of the truth movement" every 2 or 3 days or so at JRF, and that pathetic thread started recently definitely fits that M.O to a tee.

I suppose one could straight-up ask the "debunkers" what their "lively and friendly" username(s) are, but do you really expect an honest answer from that ilk?

So I'm sure they'll continue their charges of "fraud," "to make money," etc. That's really the only lame stuff in their script and all they know. Then they'll ask "so when are you going to court?"

[edit on 17-2-2009 by rhunter]

Originally posted by adam_zapple
Sure, it's despicable that some people try to make money off of the 9/11 tragedies, but there's a fine line between selling conspiracy theory snake-oil and outright fraud.

Yeah, I'm sure that's why the producers of those videos upload them to the internet for free download- to make "snake oil" money.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by rhunter


Well, I appreciate that, but on the same token we do kinda got to keep things on topic. We can't just go accusing everyone. In this thread, the topic is quite easy and simple. And things can be worded in such a way that address the topic, while they still include your opinion about these disruptive kind of people hell bent on shutting us up.

Thanks for your opinion, but have to address the topic, my friend! Or you will find your post replaced by one of those nasties! Hurry, edit your post!

You do raise an excellent question? Why don' the government sue? I'm not positive but pretty sure that you can find plenty of videos where they outright accuse the government of 911. As we know the greedy bums want every cent they can get. After all didn't the IRS just hire hundreds of new auditors to make sure they get us all? What better way for the government to prove innocence and further enslave people economically than file a suit which the accusers would help pay for anyway.

Just curious. What kind of a lawyer would they use to sue. I had NYS corruptly manipulate and withold evidence (vital to the outcome of a case) which could have proven me innocent on a false worker's comp claim. If as you state when they're sued, they will have to provide the evidence, it will then overturn their judgment and clear my name and the fines imposed which are in excess of $100,000.00.

It's basically the same concept which is why I ask. They have been defamating my character besides all the time invested and the threats of imprisonment and putting liens on everything I own, all for something I never did because they witheld evidence which was vital to the outcome of their judgment.

not sure i agree with your reasoning op ... there is a web called law ... "defamation" is specifically regarded as an individual who has received harassment due to "slanderous" or "libelous" printings.. the government is not an individual.... as to the content of your post tho i must admit yes eyes should be raised

hate to be my own reply but i thought of a current situation that givin a little creative liscense is similar... why doesnt brit spears sue tabloids? why can they print things as such that are obviously slander or libel ... simply becuase celebrity images are at the whim of the corps or person who have already bought them they are no longer individuals sorry again just thought it was relavent

Because IF the government deny the movies or sue their makers, this will be clear as "yes, it was an inside job, yes we blow the WTC, yes we kill thousands americans for the good of the rest"

[edit on 17/2/2009 by Rapsio]