Is this evidence of Project Blue Beam, a hoax, or a real miracle? You decide.

Originally posted by Dr Love
reply to post by Curious_Agnostic

 

See, that one looks like a reflection off the glass because it shows this side of the house.

Thanks for posting.

Peace

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I was going to go with an explosion of of some sorts where the plume rises and mushrooms as it hits two thermo layers but also seeing the second video I tend to agree with Dr. Love.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
As I said in the other thread, it appears to be some sort of reflection on the window.


The question is, how did they do it.

Seems like a good little experiment actually

you mean how did two or more people simultaneously produce the same lamp-reflection hoax video from different areas of russia?

i dunno.. lets try to figure out that little do-it-yourself illusion.

maybe it's a new fad in russia to do the light-reflection in the window trick from MULTIPLE sources.. then publish it on the internet


next thing you know.. we'll have these crafty kids getting together by the dozens and secretly teaching each other CGI and all producing flawless CGI images of the same craft from different locations-perspectives in the same general area in russia..like these light-cross videos... and all releasing the vids they made at the same time on youtube.. just to mess with people...

ah rooski inventiveness.. can't beat it!

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[edit on 18-2-2009 by prevenge]

First, I HAVE to say, if I saw something like that in the sky, I would certainly go outside to shoot the video. It looks to me like the OP vid was shot outside and the second one was shot from inside, or through glass (dirty spots on window apparent).

Second, the second vid does not have the crossbar over the "head" of the "figure" on the "cross". Are they 2 different vids of the same "formation"? My eyes think not. Maybe this happens in Russia all the time? haha

I saw a city name on the first vid. Was there one on the second as well? Are those places close or far apart? ie: same formation, different view.

I'm very interested. I also think that if it WAS a Bluebeam image it would be getting msm coverage.


EDIT: no city name on first vid...sorry



[edit on 18-2-2009 by ThatDGgirl]

reply to post by prevenge



Come on Prevenge, you can do better than that!!

This one was posted on February 16, 2009


And this one was posted on January 27, 2009


Also the first appears high in the sky while the second is low and in fact in front of a building.

And the second vid appears to be more over cast than the first.






[edit on 18-2-2009 by Chadwickus]

Warning! Put on your tin foil hat before proceeding.

My guess is that is was another of those trial runs.

There are a lot of these type videos on YouTube. Some are much more detailed and sophisticated. Some remind me of the movies that we used to have in the park when I was a kid.

It is going to be real hard to tell what is real and what is fake when it happens. They have been working on this technology for a long time and the holographic stuff is absolutely mind boggling.

Imagine being awakened from you sleep and having someone standing over you telling you that he is an angel sent to you by God or even God himself. You would believe because the images are just that real. The only way you would know is if they were calling from a pay phone and you heard an eerie disembodied voice say "You have 60 seconds left in your phone call if you which to continue the call please deposit another fifty cents."

Sometimes I wonder if some of these cases involving young teenagers and college kids going on murder sprees are related to some mental control trials that are being preformed. Again imagine a young impressionable child that is going through that stage of what is life, what does it have to do with me and why am I so different from all the cool kids. Then he/she starts to get visits from a “What if God was one of us” type by way of holograms. It would not be long before they would be able to get the child to do anything that they want. With or without the reward of virgins/raisins. Add to this the power of suggestion that is associated with smell (what “is” that smell? Maple syrup?)and voila! You have a Manchurian Candidate.

PS

Isn't a cross with 2 bars a russian orthodox cross?

Originally posted by Dr Love
reply to post by spitefulgod

 

What are the odds of having that many right angles reflecting off a cloud formation? Not saying it's impossible, but I would think pretty improbable.

Peace

Yes, let me second that motion. Coincidences are extremely rare, and though people do see what they "want to see" occasionally, this is not a rock on mars that looks like a face. Thats a pretty distinct image and if it really is in the sky at the distance it appears, it is in no way coincidental or miraculous, nothing natural about it at all, if that be the case, just man made.

Sometimes I wonder if some of these cases involving young teenagers and college kids going on murder sprees are related to some mental control trials that are being preformed. Again imagine a young impressionable child that is going through that stage of what is life, what does it have to do with me and why am I so different from all the cool kids.

Have you ever heard of OCB? And Tim McVeigh? Look into that one and see that mind control has been used for a long time.



[edit on 18-2-2009 by king9072]

These videos are so strange, I've got to give this thread a bump.

Very interesting stuff.

reply to post by ThatDGgirl
The second or top bar is supposed to be the sign that said king of the jews according to the tale; amazing how sharp the lines and the angles are, would like to know just how that was done and the lines be that sharp and clean.

i doubt the zooming in on the supposed light behind the person in their room would remain consistent with the zooming of the houses in the distance.

if you catch what i'm meaning..


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I don't see why it would be HAARP or Bluebeam. It doesn't make sense to me that those would explain it. It could be a trick of light on the camera. But for that light to get those images .... doubt it. It could be something reflecting off a church somewhere. Reflecting onto the clouds or moisture in the sky.

I'm leaning towards miracle.

Until I see someone replicate this and show how it was hoaxed, I too am going with miracle right now. The world could use a miracle or two. No matter what it is, I find it to be inspiring. Just another coincidence to add to the list that we are coming to the end of times.

Originally posted by NightSkyeB4Dawn
There are a lot of these type videos on YouTube. Some are much more detailed and sophisticated. Some remind me of the movies that we used to have in the park when I was a kid.

It is going to be real hard to tell what is real and what is fake when it happens. They have been working on this technology for a long time and the holographic stuff is absolutely mind boggling.

Imagine being awakened from you sleep and having someone standing over you telling you that he is an angel sent to you by God or even God himself. You would believe because the images are just that real.

The metaphysically educated and experienced are not so easily convinced.

It takes a lot more than holographic imagery in the sky (or over one's bed) to persuade everyone that there is a genuine divine being in our midst. It takes a charismatic presence, healing energies (both physical and emotional), other forms of telekinesis at work, and unmistakable love.

You can't fake purified love and healing energy with physically-based technology, no matter how advanced, and holographic projections are only shallow images with no spiritual depth - hardly the real thing.

That is why the whole Project Blue Beam idea will never go beyond the speculative stage and prove to be successful in manipulating the population en masse.

But it certainly is an entertaining prospect.

Originally posted by NightSkyeB4Dawn

Warning! Put on your tin foil hat before proceeding.

My guess is that is was another of those trial runs.

There are a lot of these type videos on YouTube. Some are much more detailed and sophisticated. Some remind me of the movies that we used to have in the park when I was a kid.

It is going to be real hard to tell what is real and what is fake when it happens. They have been working on this technology for a long time and the holographic stuff is absolutely mind boggling.

Imagine being awakened from you sleep and having someone standing over you telling you that he is an angel sent to you by God or even God himself. You would believe because the images are just that real. The only way you would know is if they were calling from a pay phone and you heard an eerie disembodied voice say "You have 60 seconds left in your phone call if you which to continue the call please deposit another fifty cents."

Sometimes I wonder if some of these cases involving young teenagers and college kids going on murder sprees are related to some mental control trials that are being preformed. Again imagine a young impressionable child that is going through that stage of what is life, what does it have to do with me and why am I so different from all the cool kids. Then he/she starts to get visits from a “What if God was one of us” type by way of holograms. It would not be long before they would be able to get the child to do anything that they want. With or without the reward of virgins/raisins. Add to this the power of suggestion that is associated with smell (what “is” that smell? Maple syrup?)and voila! You have a Manchurian Candidate.

Worth adding, is that one of the original Blue Beam-plannings involved enducing of real Demons and manifestations, and if so, the contacts with various beings could very well be of the real deal.

Originally posted by sickofitall2012
Until I see someone replicate this and show how it was hoaxed, I too am going with miracle right now. The world could use a miracle or two. No matter what it is, I find it to be inspiring. Just another coincidence to add to the list that we are coming to the end of times.

Here are a couple of examples that I could find with out doing too much work.

If this is what they let us see how much more amazing is the stuff that we don’t get to see. Yet.


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reply to post by NightSkyeB4Dawn


Of course I thought of hologram, but looking around, it appears to not be a wealthy area. Are holographic projectors that cheap? I would love to find out who would go to those extremes in Russia, twice. Perhaps we are expected to just have faith and believe.

Originally posted by sickofitall2012
reply to post by NightSkyeB4Dawn

 

Of course I thought of hologram, but looking around, it appears to not be a wealthy area. Are holographic projectors that cheap? I would love to find out who would go to those extremes in Russia, twice. Perhaps we are expected to just have faith and believe.

Testing! Testing 1..2...3... Testing!

What better place to perform a test. Choose an out of the way place were people still have strong faith and little access to the internet, phones, TVs. etc.

I hope that you are right and that it really is something spiritual but I have to say that I have been contaminated and my trust level is very low these day.

might be something like this

Let me correct myself.

I found a clear copy of the OP's video and put it up on the HD50. I could then clearly see an orientation shift of the image against the sky in the background.
A small shift, but a shift all the same, so it appears that it is a reflection on a piece of glass.
I could also make out that the image is actually of a Jesus on the cross complete with the name at the top.
Could it be that several people in Russia are experimenting with the relection in the window version of trick photography? Only if they have some form of mass communication, or better yet, some form of network communication where a single idea can be shared with others at the same time. Hmmmmm, I wonder.
Anyway, thought I'd share and help out.

Oh come debunkers out there, is reflection tricks all you guys can come up with? lol Seriously though, what the heck, I don't even see any evidence of glass glare. I was a professional photographer for years, photographing many a glare. Nothing ever turned out this sharp and clear, but then again I wasn't trying to pull off a hoax. I really wish someone would find out what this was, because if this is not a hoax, then Heavenly God it is a miracle.