Mice infected with Bubonic Plague missing from Lab

Miami, FL (AHN) - The frozen remains of two mice infected with the bubonic plague are missing from a New Jersey bioterror research facility, and the facility waited seven weeks to report the incident to federal and state authorities. Officials with the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey in Newark, where the remains went missing, and FBI officials, said the missing mice pose no public health threat.

This is the same facility where three live plague-inflected mice went missing in September 2005. Officials concluded those mice died.

The frozen mice were noticed missing when an animal care supervisor went to prepare them for sterilization and incineration, the New Jersey Star-Ledger reported. University officials still think the remains were incinerated earlier, but lack the records to prove it.

University officials say they contacted the FBI, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and state health officials when they realized the dead mice were unaccounted for.

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What is happening at this facility? Twice this has happened? Why does it take 7 weeks to report this?

You might be able to conclude that the mice missing in 2005 were dead (though they don't say how they reached those conclusions), but then it happens again? This scares me. The lack of security, the lack of urgency in reporting, the possible negligence, and the dismissal of the first occassion. Am I over-reacting?

I hope it's not related to this: Report: Plague killing al-Qaida terrorists. That story was the 19th Jan, so the timing matches... Can the plagle (bacturium I believe) be reactivated from frozen samples? I suppose so, only heat kills it, cold just puts it into suspended animation.

Uh oh... that's not good. Do you think someone stole them? Even if they are dead, I think that you can still extract the virus.

Why would they wait seven weeks to report it? Obviously they were lacking in security and didn't want to let people know. But still.

This does seem to be a problem. Hmm...plagued mice suddenly go missing, reasearchers take 7 weeks to report it.....sounds like a false flag to me.

Well i knew it would come to pass someday..can't use nukes so we might as well kill eachother with deseases.

Way To Go World..Way To Go!

S&F for the planet earth.

Yeah, I wondered the same. The lab claimed after the first incident that the mice held no health threat to the public, but what about extraction of the virus from the frozen corposes?

Maybe you couldn't catch it from them, but can they not use the mice to try and replicate the virus?

I know nothing of this area, so I speculate, but this does not sit well with me at all.

Well all it takes to cure Bubonic plague now a days is a simple course of anti biotics... That is unless this strain is resistant of course.

Originally posted by Now_Then
Well all it takes to cure Bubonic plague now a days is a simple course of anti biotics... That is unless this strain is resistant of course.

That is not strictly ture.

The plague can take many forms, some kill the infected within hours, others attack the entire body, making it difficult to treat. Others cause deadly pneumonia.

Most forms resemble other diseases at first, which means that the infected may not seek treatment until it is too late.

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Please tell me this is NOT the same lab that did this in 2005.

Mice Infected With Bubonic Plague Missing

[edit on 7-2-2009 by loam]

I'm sitting here in South Orange (right next to Newark),
wondering, "Should I be worried?! Even though they said
it poses no threat".

Cluckerspud may be the canary. Grrrreeat.

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They have to keep reminding you about things like diseases and pandemics so that when they do finally release it, it won't come as such a shock and you will probably run along to your friendly FEMA camp for medical assistance.

Originally posted by loam
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Please tell me this is NOT the same lab that did this in 2005.

Mice Infected With Bubonic Plague Missing

[edit on 7-2-2009 by loam]

The article states that it is in fact the same lab that did that in 2005.

Twice, unreal.

When I watched the report on the terrorist being killed by this plaque. I thought ,ok they actually have this virus .If stories are true they killed themselves by mistake perfecting it or already perfected it (maybe by aquiring dead mice) anyways, they have it and will probably use it.
Its worse than the bird flu it kills faster and would spread like a wildfire. Yes antibiotics will work doxycycline is one of them. I suggest everyone simply look up simptoms and purchase this antibiotic to have on hand.

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those are my exact thoughts..i read abuot a month ao, bubonic plague and the Al Quida? I think it was..7 weeks without reporing it? That should be a matter of national security and criminal investigation..dont ya think? Made me think, they wee smuggled over thier. Thier was that caase montha go too, in new mexico, a few were found infected with plague. SO, this is how it works..major governemnt CDC lab is tooo slow and stupid to keep redords of antying, infcted host escapes, undetected, under thier lazy noses, and settles or dies in sone suburban area, and a few get it(sick) and they walk away with clean hands, dont inform the public, and no penaltys enforced amongst such a mistake...but yet, me not wearing my seatblet makes healines, compared to this..And to think, these are the same ones connected to FDA, telling us fluroide and chlorine is good for us...hmm me smell a rotten egg with this 7 week thing... ice could have gotten anywhere, a major metropolitan area, or suburaban, and infected thousands, when you think about it.. I think homeland security, since they seem so eager to enforce the law on us, they shold be doing it also to these bio engineering and CDC labs...

When this occurred in 2005, it prompted a lab-wide investigation of the employees, including lie detectors.

It was also covered on the MSM, but so far, I can find little information on this second occurrence.

Fishy

2005 incident



[edit on 8-2-2009 by helpmefindtheway]

Im not suprised about this. This facility, UMDNJ is one of the most corrupt places in NJ. A few years ago they were investigated for just giving students diplomas. Dont forget about the kickback schemes, no show jobs, money laundering, medicare fraud. THis place is a dirty politicians best friend, do a google search on this place the past five years and you find some interesting stuff.

Wow they're really ramping up scare tactics about possible plagues and epidemics lately.... first they find birds dead from avian flu, now this.

HERE COMES SICKNESS! HERE COMES SICKNESS!



YEAH YEAH!!!!

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The Bubonic Plague is not nearly as bad as when it first struck in Europe. Although many would die our medicine and a greater immune system would halt this from being as costly as the first strike during the Black Death.

Originally posted by helpmefindtheway

Miami, FL (AHN) - The frozen remains of two mice infected with the bubonic plague are missing from a New Jersey bioterror research facility,

Hmmmm..... Who does this facility work for? Who is it funded by? Where does all the research go? What are the intentions of this facility?

Isn't it convenient that such a sample goes missing?

People in UK: have you noticed all the news reports of organisations like Inland Revenue etc. LOSING or getting information on people STOLEN? It's the same thing, they give away the assets unofficially by losing them or getting them stolen.

It's an age-old trick.

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I would think most of the people who were not lucky enough to have the genetic ability to beat this didnt make it through the last go around. Therefore a large majority of us are decedents of those who were able to beat it. Plus the whole antibiotic thing we have going for us now.