Soccer ball is deflected by invisible object in MID AIR around 18ft up

This is like a toe punt, NOT spin - it is a direct hit to the sweet spot of the ball - after takeoff, it is air pressure, wind and gravity. A ball that is not spinning is very unpredictable (like a paper plane) hence players like to put on the spin. It looks like there is a strong wind that is being calmed by the low building in the background. When the ball leaves the wind break (building) it can only go down as the air pressure on top of the ball would suddenly get higher. I used to toe punt all the time and the ball could travel up and down many times during it's flight - sometimes by at least 4 foot (very hard to follow).

the uk bloke

Its obviously a natural anomaly. I read somewhere that in cases wind can blow straight down, like the opposite of a tornado except where this is just a sudden gust of wind.

This is my first post on ATS, go easy ok?

Living in the UK and watching football/soccer every weekend, this is nothing unusual. I think its time to put this to bed..

In my opinion as this guy in red kicks the ball, it takes a deflection off the other guy (in white) causing extreme spin on the ball which makes it appear to hit an invisible object

Trust me... I have been watching football since i can remember

Move along

Originally posted by MR1159
Someone waaay back in this thread said what I was thinking, and it seems to have been pretty much ignored:

It is an optical illusion created by the camera zooming out. If you carefully watch the ball with reference to the background and not the camera frame, you will see that it follows a nice parabola.

QED!

This is the answer!

My face was in my hands as I read the replies.. "it's just spin" and then linking to youtube videos which are nothing like the O.Ps video.

ATS is really one of the most unintelligent forums, posters just have absolutely no clue half the time it cracks me up.

Dear o Dear.

reply to post by Th0r

Are you talkin' to me??

(Apologies to De Niro)

Originally posted by MoonMine

Originally posted by highfreq
Maybe by being kicked a certain way the spin and rotation of the ball changed directions. Kinda like how a pitcher puts spin on the ball to create a curve ball.

I totally agree with you that in baseball delayed spin can be put on the ball to create a sinker. In soccer this just is not possible because the ball starts on the ground.

If anyone can show me anything where a ball starts out of a plat plane into a 30 degree or more angle and suddenly drops out of its regular plane because of spin and continues on that flat plane until it lands I will fold.

Please watch the moment of the contact of the foot with the ball.

www.youtube.com...

Something quite similar.

No UFOs here.

[edit on 12-2-2009 by Dookzor]

[edit on 12-2-2009 by Dookzor]

Originally posted by Th0r

Originally posted by MR1159
Someone waaay back in this thread said what I was thinking, and it seems to have been pretty much ignored:

It is an optical illusion created by the camera zooming out. If you carefully watch the ball with reference to the background and not the camera frame, you will see that it follows a nice parabola.

QED!

This is the answer!

My face was in my hands as I read the replies.. "it's just spin" and then linking to youtube videos which are nothing like the O.Ps video.

ATS is really one of the most unintelligent forums, posters just have absolutely no clue half the time it cracks me up.

Dear o Dear.

Yes, because insulting the intelligence of those who disagree with you is intelligent.

Been playing Football for most of my life and watched ol chinny Hill on Match of the Day since god was a boy! Ive played county league, sunday league in all weathers , wind ,rain ,snow but i have never ever seen that ball do that !
Ive hoofed a lofty one into the wind and watched it go up and straight back down again, sometimes i got it back lol .. bloody weather !

I would like to think this was just a trick of the lens tho, but i agree its a lil bit of a weird one! Dont think its zarg from zorgon coming to see the beautiful game , wouldnt blame him though ....

regards
Git

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Well, you lost me champ.

Are you old mate's spokesperson?

it doesnt look like spin to me. all the you tube links that show spin is side spin not top spin. this was a lob that for the lack of a better word looks like its deflected down. it may be a hoax but that is what it looks like.


you can hear it hit something.

[edit on 13-2-2009 by TiM3LoRd]

It could be that he kicked it with top spin and when the upward momentum (acceleration) slowed and it hit an apex the top spin was the greater force and turned it down.

is FOOTBALL not SOCCER....

when are you americans going to learn?....

Being a table tennis player, i know alot about spin, yea a pong ball is alot different than a soccer ball (football for non Americans) but its the same principal....There is nothing extraordinary about this video. Just looks like alot of top spin.

[edit on 13-2-2009 by Lombardy Inn]

Its a trick of the camera notice the 'deflection' occurs the exact time the camera zooms out which makes it look like it hit something.

Aliens watching 5 aside down the park lol

Originally posted by MoonMine
An amateur soccer game in the evening which someone is filming with a DV.

One of the players kicks the ball long. In the start of its flight, the ball gets deflected by an unseen barrier.

This is an older video, but there does not seem to be much discussion about it anywhere. Available in high quality.

One could argue a sudden gust of wind, but I contend that a gust of wind capable of taking kinetic energy out of a ball like that, it would have brought players off balance. Maybe a vortex?

Or is there maybe something to the theories that ufos are indeed all around us in the UV spectrum?

Maybe ufos like soccer?

MoonMine

I seems to me that just after the deflection there is a disturbence in the picture behind the ball. Looks a lot like a wire across the field that is struck by the ball and dangles a bit.

Clearly visible in the slo'mo' part of the video.

What a wire does across the field is beyond me...

HolgerTheDane

[edit on 13-2-2009 by HolgerTheDane]
Re-reading back a couple of pages shows me that others thought of it before me.
What can I say - I agree...

[edit on 13-2-2009 by HolgerTheDane]

I'm sorry but thinking there was something invisible out there is an absolute nonsense.

I've been a goal keeper for 20 years and a volleyball player for other 10.

As a goalkeeper I have seen "all" the strange effects a ball can get and believe me, sometime it seems to be impossible to move like that without a remote control.

As a volleyball player I was a defender. Have you ever seen the effect high speed rotation causes to the ball when you serve?

No, nothing wrong here. Sorry guys, I should exercise more often to see this with your eyes shut.

Originally posted by Tgautier13
It is not irrelevant, its a matter of experience and knowledge in the game, and understanding the physics of what you're trying to say we're looking at. The other sports have nothing to do with curving trajectory of a soccer ball; all the sports you just mentioned obviously have balls of differing size and density. [edit on 8-2-2009 by Tgautier13]

Yes they do have different density, size, weight, but those are irrelevant to the concept of spin which stays the same, that's why they call it spin in all three sports. Using your analogy, a small plane or bigger plane both use the same concept of flight. Spin is overcoming a certain force gradually, not instantaneous.

What we see here is instantaneous. And yes I do keep the zooming and the motion of the camera into consideration when drawing that conclusion.

Anyway, pointless discussion.

In snooker we call it english ... its just the way the ball is spinning through the air. I see no glancing off anything... the makes an arch ... english on the ball

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Exactly what novrod said. I do see the wire-thing now but it doesn't change the fact that a football can easily do this kind of movements if you just kick it correctly. In some countries this kind of kick is called "a falling leaf" (referring to the actual drop in the end): first it raises slowly, then moves a while on a straight line and then suddenly drops really fast. I managed to learn this technique in one summer month by doing about 1000 repetitions, someone with a better kicking technique might learn it with just 300-500 reps. I never tried it in a match because there are so many better options in similar situations. That's why you rarely see amazing goals in matches, high competition means high risks, players want to play it safe. This kick also requires some power to work perfectly so you need to kick it from far away, that's why people don't try it too often.

The "weirdness" of the original video could be because of the defender getting a foot in just after the shot, because of the wire over the field or because of the camera movements. No matter which one of these (or all or none of them) caused the weirdness, it is still 100% natural thing for a football. I have seen it done in the tv, in matches of all different levels and in training (done by other people than me). Nothing strange about that.

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I didn't see and deflection? can someone point it out to me? to me it just looks like the player who was suppose to receive it...missed it.