Soccer ball is deflected by invisible object in MID AIR around 18ft up

Saying that the ball hit a UFO is a bit of a stretch. But saying that the ball just "curved" is just as big of a stretch. None of the videos in this thread of soccer balls getting kicked and curving show what is happening in this video, none of them. There is clearly a deflection on the ball in the OPs video. The angle and the speed both change. The guy on his team trying to field it even overplays it and lets it get past him. This is because the ball HIT something and took a slower and flatter trajectory. Now I don't believe it hit a UFO. I believe it hit some sort of wire. The angle of deflection was not that severe and it looks like the ball hit something that had little mass behind it. So a wire makes sense to me.

[edit on 9-2-2009 by Jo Jo]

Originally posted by Jo Jo
None of the videos in this thread of soccer balls getting kicked and curving show what is happening in this video, none of them.

It's not a soccer ball, but it's still a ball getting smacked upwards and then angling down (not the curve at the end that hits the filmer, but the initial serve.)

Unless all separate ball varieties abide by a different set of rules of physics, I'd say this is (still) a real no brainer.




[edit on 9-2-2009 by alaskan]

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
You ever seen a curve ball? A Slider? a Knuckle Ball? One that actually drops in mid air? It's all because of the spin the Pitcher puts on it.

It is beautiful to watch, and feels majestic to perform, but alas, it is simple physics.

Well said. The witness to a knuckleball sees a ball that goes up and down, left and right.



See the ball go left, then right? No stranger to those that have played sports reading this thread.

Peace

[edit on 9-2-2009 by HIFIGUY]

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
No but Knuckle Balls do....

Check out this video on how to knuckle a soccer ball

You know... This may be it...

I was going until I watched HunkaHunkas video.

You have a point there HunkaHunka... IT MATCHES the profile whereas spin does not. The way he takes his leg straight back and through matches the vid. The position of thge foot on the ball matches the vid. This means hitting the ball top AND bottom at the same time using the lower half of your leg and the top part of your foot. Mimicking a knuckle effect. Brilliant.

Now, as we should indeed do a Occam's Razor, I am inclined to go with the Knuckle Ball theory. No Wind, No Spin, and, alas, no UFO in the invisible UV/IR Spectrum.

On a final note: thanks for everyone for their input, compliments and other reactions, and to answer a question asked earlier: No I am not stubborn, nor am I ignorant.

What I am now, -thanks to A.T.S. members- is wiser about an event which I did not understand before I posted this thread, so all in all a great succes.

Thanks again.

What's the definition of "saving face" again?

[edit-removed currently redundant]
peace

[edit on 9-2-2009 by tricycle]

reply to post by MoonMine


I really really don't understand why you bother...?

Desperate grabbing at straws mate. You devoutees will sensationalize
anything to prove yourself right.
It's nothing more than spin on the ball.

Chink in disclosure armor no. 10.472 and counting.

[edit on 9/2/09 by flice]

reply to post by MoonMine


it looks like a rugby ball to me

Its hitting a telephone wire strung across the field. You can see the horizontal spray of the water shaken from the wire after it hits.

Geez guys...

If it had hit a solid object I would expect it to bounce back in the general direction it came or in an opposite direction. Not alter its course slightly. I see no proof of invisible UFOs.

Now if a hatch had opened and a grey hand had grabbed the ball maybe, or a laser popped it. But I say no to this.

That's just kicked with a back spin on the ball for a player to run onto.How do I know I'm an ex-professional soccer player.
Now I've seen other Utube posts similar as well implying ufo's etc....

Just because some fool writes "Ball hits invisible UFO" doesn't mean it's true.

Zelong.

Actually, I'm going with hitting the wire - now that it's pointed out, I can see the spray coming off it as other posters have pointed out. It explains the compression MoonMine first noticed and worked so hard to demonstrate.

I hadn't heard of knuckling a ball before - it's cool, but it doesn't give quite the profile of the ball in the OP.

Mind you, hitting a thin wire - it's kind of a cool flukey shot in itself.

Originally posted by rich23
Actually, I'm going with hitting the wire - now that it's pointed out, I can see the spray coming off it as other posters have pointed out. It explains the compression MoonMine first noticed and worked so hard to demonstrate.

I hadn't heard of knuckling a ball before - it's cool, but it doesn't give quite the profile of the ball in the OP.

Mind you, hitting a thin wire - it's kind of a cool flukey shot in itself.

It is in the persuit and the desire of wanting to know the truth in its absolute instance that we check and balance the information we obtain.

In referencing the video, it seems probable yet not visibile, that the ball COULD have hit a wire over the field. The visible gray area after impact, shows a residual that lasts for several seconds.

Thus, curve ball most likely; Wire impact entirely possible. The next step is to look for someone, that is familiar with the field and can 100%, VERIFY, the wire.

The Truth is what is is, regardless of our spin ( no pun intended ). Someone find out the location and origin of this film. Give us a daylight image of the field, so we can put this to bed.

Peace

[edit on 9-2-2009 by HIFIGUY]

Thats not a UFO, thats what we call in baseball a knuckle ball

Someone waaay back in this thread said what I was thinking, and it seems to have been pretty much ignored:

It is an optical illusion created by the camera zooming out. If you carefully watch the ball with reference to the background and not the camera frame, you will see that it follows a nice parabola.

QED!

I had only read the title of the thread and knew immediatly what video I would find.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Thats not a UFO, thats what we call in baseball a knuckle ball

Cool. You have just improved my English with this "knuckle ball" term.

Greetings

[edit on 10-2-2009 by TheWriter]

Originally posted by Anti - Government
reply to post by alaskan

 

Ye you are absolutely right the ball did have spin on it that’s obvious but that sharp movement from it isn’t caused by spin of the ball

also i saw a video very similar to this a while ago but it was during an American Football match where the same thing happened the ball was half way through the air and it just dropped suddenly it was pretty odd

sadly I have absolutely no explanation for these types of occurrences the only thing I can come up with is they are fake because a far as I can see the players don’t take any notice to the ball after it was deflected and the same thing in the American Football video a while ago which you would expect at least someone on the field or in the crown to notice but no nothing

i'll try and find that American Football video aswell

I may be able to explain the ball just falling to the ground, but a sharp angle airborne deflection may be a bit more difficult.

The ball that just fell could have very well hit an air void. This is not real uncommon and many people that have flown have experienced this before. I remember once while flying in a Navy C-9 it happened and I thought we were going to fall right out of the sky. We hit an air void at approximately 32k feet and dropped almost 5k feet in a matter of maybe 20 seconds. Some people also refer to these as downdrafts; however, as I understand it from the explanation the pilot gave me, it is just an area devoid of air pressure and when there is no air pressure the airfoils (wings) cannot generate any lift, thus the plane drops like a brick.

Now the deflection is another story entirely. The only thing I can even think of is a severe updraft. We see these above the lake fairly often, but over land especially as focused and small as that one obviously would have had to be, is either extremely rare or non-existent. Plus an updraft, although it would deflect the ball, would also lift it up even if it encountered only the edge. Probably would have deflected much less also unless as I said it was very small and focused, but I noticed no upward movement in the video upon the deflection and if it was small enough and focused enough, it would surely be pulling loose debris from the ground and I did not notice that either.

If there were any metal involved I might guess a magnetic anomaly as we also have one of those near us where you can park your car in neutral and it will actually roll up a hill, this was a big attraction to us in high school, always a good place to take a girl to creep her out and maybe get lucky º¿º. I have read about many such areas throughout the country. If you ever encounter one, try the car in neutral thing, it is very cool.

reply to post by MR1159


That is exactly what I thought. If the video was posted with the title "ball appears to dip due to panning and zooming out", thats exactly what you would have thought was the case. However, throw "UFO" in the title and some people just want it to be a UFO, throwing away all logical thought. Hey, I'm open to UFO's and believe there are unexplained anomolies, however I don't believe this video is anything out of the ordinary.

Also, I would like to point out that the knuckle ball analogy doesn't apply to the OP video. A baseball with no spin curves because the seam disturbs the airflow (just like a swinging ball in cricket), while a 'soccer' ball will spin due to rotation.

IMO, the ball is deflected by the defenders foot, putting topspin on the ball. Then as the cameraman pans from left to right, he zooms out, making the ball appear to drop dramatically, simply because the ball gets lower compared to the top of the frame. (maybe my monitors not up to scratch, because I don't see any white object at the point of 'deflection' that some posters seem to have seen.)

reply to post by Anonymous ATS


You got it Anon.