The Flatwoods Monster UFO

Podcast tomorrow (19th March) dealing with the Flatwoods monster incident:

Jeremy Vaeni and Jeff Ritzmann will host Frank on the down-loadable program featured Friday evening, 19 March! The complete story, untold on the recent MonsterQuest program concerning the provenance of the Flatwoods monster: that it was the tail-end of America's biggest UFO flap, ever, prosecuted that single night on both the west and east coasts of the United States, plus the monstrous secret military aviation history associated with that night... all supported by Bluebook records, newspaper reportage, and first person accounts, in that order of precedence.


There's a lot more documented as going on in Flatwoods that September 12th night in 1952, and it is quite apart from the debunker touted isolated incident of hillbilly kids prosecuting a "mass hysteria" over "spooks" and "barn owls."

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Claims of gross distortion of facts in History Channel documentary:

The History Channel, one finds, had the time, opportunity, and all the requisite data to produce a stunning program about the infamous Flatwoods affair. What the History channel did instead, reader, was to contrive to manufacture a senseless "mash-up" of two entirely unrelated cases from what could be most easily be "faux-discredited" in either of them. Suggesting this bogus relationship, one not even remotely tenuous, is the program's kiss of less-than-mediocre death.

Sincerely, none but those entirely honest with themselves dare call this very poor, contrived, and inauspicious telling of the Flatwoods story a blithering incompetence, a fatuous cluelessness, or a distorted propaganda. More irony is revealed given Feschino, Friedman, and I had to sign sworn statements indicating our contribution to the program was true as we knew it to be true. The History Channel reportage of same, paradoxically, was not.

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[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]

First hand account of the Flatwoods monster (pic posted by Plotoon):

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Footnote Document Viewer

I live about 10 minutes from Flatoowds so Ive heard all the stories... There is another one about the Flatwoods monster or green monster that has a guy driving around and meeting the monster on the road in Flatwoods. He slams on the brakes right in front of the monster. While he is setting there staring at it the monster floats over and touches the hood of his car with its hand melting a big V though the hood and into the engine block.

Flatwood also has a fair every fall where there is a lot of info on the subject

Cheap Plug Alert!

This week's Paratopia features a nearly two-hour breakdown of these events with lead investigator Frank Feschino. He walks us through all of the events and tells us where the MonsterQuest version got it right and got it wrong. Check it out if you like paranormal podcasts.

External Link To Paratopia

reply to post by Jeremy_Vaeni


Thanks Jeremy, already downloaded the show, it is great to revisit these old cases, I remember when most of them happened.

Thanks, Aquarius. Sorry I didn't see that karl 12 had posted a link. D'oh!

[edit on 20-3-2010 by Jeremy_Vaeni]

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Hey Jeremy, not to worry and that was a very interesting interview -as for the Monsterquest episode, here's an interesting article about it:

Monster Quest's Flatwoods Episode and Joe Nickell's Infamous Owl Theory

The Monster Quest episode about the Flatwoods Monster was dismal, though Flatwoods researcher Frank Feschino is more forgiving than I am, and he's the one that was involved in the program. Still, it annoyed me, as many Monster Quest episodes have recently. When it comes to the truly anomalous and weird, bordering on the paranormal, MQ runs. In fact, they seem to intentionally go out of their way to obstufacate things. Bringing in the Star Child skull and devoting half the program to it while supposedly investigating the Flatwoods Monster only muddled things. The Flatwoods story could easily take up several episodes on its own without restorting to claims that an unusual skull is proof of an alien..

As with other weird, just plain anomalous cases, there are those who insist on an explanation and approach these cases with a combative attitude. It's a war; an either/or dichotomy. Either it's an alien from outer space, or something rational, something mundane, like an owl. For the uber skeptoid debunker, of which Joe Nickell is one, there is no mystery, and no allowing for the acceptance of the idea that there is no rational explanation.

It is horribly irrational to truly believe that witnesses saw an owl, or even, as some skeptics concede, a crashed military object of some kind, after studying the case. The owl explanation satisfies the classist agenda, the acknowledgment of a military object --without further questioning, -- serves the blind patriotism and naivety that has some believe our government wouldn't do such things to its citizens.

I don't know if Monster Quest is just chicken, trying to appeal to all audiences, is shilling for the CIA or what, but they have no idea what they're doing when it comes to the truly anomalous stuff.

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Cheers.

[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]

Ivan Sanderson discusses the Flatwoods case in a 1956 interview:

i read that the flatwoods monster as the witnesses saw it , dont have arms or at least not visible. its a tall entity that move with swaying gait.

this case reminded me of an FSR UK case discussing encounter by a couple in a car driving on forest road past midnight.. they got assaulted by very bad smell and suddenly the driver see (outside of the passenger window) a tall form standing outside. he press on the accelerator and see the form in his rearview mirror still standing beside the road.

Bad Smell - Check
Lonely / Rural place - Check
Few witnesses - Check
Night Time - Check
Scary Entity - Check

Now how this 'scary' stuff different from ye olde ghost encounter ?? or they all just the same M.O just with different face ? back then every entity wore 'faeroe' 'ghost' 'djinn' scary mask, now they are wearing 'aliens' 'ufo' masks..

smells like the same old trickster stuff being perpetrated on humans since time immemorial..

a bit side tracked but the 'giant entity' stuff are documented a lot in UFO encounters..

South America , a truck driver named douglas met 2 gigantic entities barring his truck and he shot his revolver at them to no effect but the entities chased him using a red ball of light to a small town (on foot)..

Spain, giant entity suprising 3 armed soldier guarding a military base and got shot. no effect to the entity, base experienced black out.

That's freaking crazy!

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TheUFOguy, it sure is.

Regarding this video about the metal and liquid samples which were sent to the U.S. Government and never seen again there's also a restricted government document below which states the Pentagon was also asking for a soil analysis (and instructing the Directorate of Special Investigations to give utmost priority to the lab analysis of the subject samples).

..but the Pentagon was very interested in it nevertheless. We know this because of the above released document [actually in the Project Blue Book OSI microfilm all along.] As you can see it is a Routing and Record Sheet which is classified "Restricted" and is asking for a soil analysis. Of What?? Of Flatwoods soil. There was a report that the entity floated down the hill towards the UFO and that "skid-marks" had been initially seen. Whether soil samples from there, the area under the tree, or the depressed-dried area were taken for analysis, this record doesn't say.

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There;s also this other depiction of the FM which speculates that the flared out lower torso were actual tubes for a propulsion system - pretty outlandish but then it was reported that the monster 'floated' towards the witnesses.




Cheers.