Does the universe spin?

I was spinning my water bottle around in my hands and noticed the block of ice in the water bottle didnt really move, and for some reason i wondered if the universe spins in some kind of rotation that would kind of set off most things in the universe to spin. I had a look on the net but no one really knows, so I was wondering what thoughts other people had on this subject. maybe someone could shed some light.

If I understand M theory correctly the universe is a spinning vortex of vibrational bubbles merging and colliding within and without seperate dimensions. So basically I have no clue.

I think it depends on which dimension you're in. If you believe in the 9th and 10th dimension... then some universes would spin... and some would not. since there are infinite versions of infinite universes. Here's an excellent video of this theory www.youtube.com...

The trouble is, our viewpoint is embedded deep within the universe. We're so far away from the edges, there's a limit to how far we can see. With the increasing pace of the universe's expansion, the barrier (if there is actually a physical barrier) is retreating further and further from our vantage point.

Some people think we live in a bubble floating in hyperspace (or in the multiverse) among other bubbles, each with their own interior physical laws and possibly conscious inhabitants.

Just as possible is that we reside in overlapping realms (dimensions) that constantly spin, drift, wobble, intersect, etc. with other dimensions.

Yet another possibility is that both are right - the each separate bubble in hyperspace also has infinite parallel versions coexisting within.

No one knows for sure. They're all theories. String Theory/M Theory are prevalent, but some say that reality is far more complex than anything a single theory can attempt to bring together in one unifying idea. So it is definitely possible than our universe is in fact spinning, or it could be merely an expanding membrane.

Just so happens I edited a video a few days ago that I was planning to use in one of my upcoming threads, but I might as wll post it here.

It begins with a colossal zoom-out from Earth, beyond the boundary of the universe and into hyperspace, eventually leading to the multiversal realm. Then you enter a parallel universe and zoom in all the way down to the subatomic level.

Portions of the movies Contact and Stargate were used, as well as bits of science documentaries and fractal animations.



[edit on 3/2/09 by Evasius]

Originally posted by Evasius
The trouble is, our viewpoint is embedded deep within the universe. We're so far away from the edges, there's a limit to how far we can see.

There are no edges of the universe.

Does the universe spin? yes probably.

Where is the center of the universe? You can only judge the center from the outer boundaries, there are no outer boundaries so there is no center, the universe is boundless.

Originally posted by Razimus

Originally posted by Evasius
The trouble is, our viewpoint is embedded deep within the universe. We're so far away from the edges, there's a limit to how far we can see.

There are no edges of the universe.

Did you confirm this via astral projection or actually physically exploring the outer realms of our universe? If neither, what proves that is the case? I personally have done neither, but I read books & try to keep an open mind.

At any rate, I'm aware there may be no physical barrier, but anything's possible. However the presence of an encompassing membrane is just as likely even though it has never (and may never be) directly observed.

We could be a fuzzball on a wookie for all you (or anyone else) knows.

[edit on 3/2/09 by Evasius]

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You sir have officially blown my mind. That was probably the coolest thing I have ever read. Do you have some links of stuff I could research?

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Good question. I believe I grasp the bubble(s) theory better than most of the other theories...but this would have to include that if "our" universe is spinning, then all of the other bubbles, or universes/dimensions would have to spin, albeit at different rates X distance from "our" vantage point.

At the risk of sounding like an idiot I'm going to disagree with everyone here and say that the universe does not spin.

A spinning motion requires something exterior to the universe as a frame of reference and the universe is the universe, there's nothing outside of it that can be used as a stationary point of reference to make such a claim.

Furthermore nothing in the universe is stationary. Something is always moving and the speed and direction is going to be a mixture of your movement compared to it's movement hence the term Relativity.

Best regards,

Obsidience

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sweet video, very cool

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but what about a multiverse and the fact we are yet to know what goes beyond this universe. I mean most things in the universe spin, is it possible theres some kind of evoultion going on here, where things begin big and simple and the futher you go its gets smaller and more complex or even vice versa, but an evolution of time none the less. possibility don't know

www.newscientist.com...

theres link there about a quantum gyroscope sounds interesting, the information is quite dated, but then again M. M. tried for 20 years to prove the ether.

Originally posted by Wethesheeple
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You sir have officially blown my mind. That was probably the coolest thing I have ever read. Do you have some links of stuff I could research?

I'm going to upload a book by Michio Kaku as a pdf on my website, and I'll send you the link via U2U - let me know when you've got it, and I'll remove it. (It's 2.13MB and will cripple my bandwidth if it's downloaded multiple times).

Meanwhile, I'll compile a list of a couple of links & youtube clips for you regarding these ideas.

Originally posted by obsidience
At the risk of sounding like an idiot I'm going to disagree with everyone here and say that the universe does not spin.

A spinning motion requires something exterior to the universe as a frame of reference and the universe is the universe, there's nothing outside of it that can be used as a stationary point of reference to make such a claim.

I agree with you on this. Perhaps the universe is expanding to fill an external void (like a balloon in a bottle). If this is the case, spinning motion wouldn't be required, only a flexible encasement. Also, spinning seems to be required for the coherence of solid space bodies within our universe - it's one of our physical laws here. Who's to say the laws are the same beyond our universe? There could possibly be no rules in hyperspace...gravity, magnetism, the entire electromagnetic spectrum we experience may be absent 'on the other side.' Who knows, 'spinning' as we know it may not even be possible in other realms or the higher dimensions.

*edit*Wethesheeple - I sent that U2U...

[edit on 4/2/09 by Evasius]

Does the universe spin?

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I had an idea a while ago that time only exists due to the motion of the universe, or should I say 'our' universe. The universe is like the main 'cog', through it's rotation, everything else rotates and therefore exists. If it ceases to rotate, everything ceases to rotate or exist.

Who knows, just playing around with ideas.

EMM

Modern science has really complicated things with mass-less virtual particles, gravitons, and then dark this/dark that... Our Universe is applied torque to energy. A single force separated by vortices that gives you +/- flow. If you look at ancient civilizations, you'll find not only were they aware of this fact... They actually used building techniques such as manipulating water to do all sorts of stuff (capacitor, HHO torch, electromagnetic repellent). In a time when most were right-brained… Visual symbols and art were the normal language. Now we’re all pre-packaged left-brain wanna-be space monkeys.

Do some real research… Learn music theory as it pertains to cycles per second, modulation, and resonance. Next follow along with Marko Rodin, and how I further explain things:

blog.myspace.com...



You’ll be surprised how simple it is…





[edit on 4-2-2009 by Americanist]

Originally posted by Evasius
I agree with you on this. Perhaps the universe is expanding to fill an external void (like a balloon in a bottle). If this is the case, spinning motion wouldn't be required, only a flexible encasement. Also, spinning seems to be required for the coherence of solid space bodies within our universe - it's one of our physical laws here. Who's to say the laws are the same beyond our universe? There could possibly be no rules in hyperspace...gravity, magnetism, the entire electromagnetic spectrum we experience may be absent 'on the other side.' Who knows, 'spinning' as we know it may not even be possible in other realms or the higher dimensions.

I agree with you that many items studied in physics have the attribute of spin. Great point.

One thing to think about is that it is theorized that there were more dimensions during the early part of the big bang. So it's theorized that dimensions are collapsing as the universe expands and cools. It's possible that the concept of depth, breadth or time don't exist in the outer reaches of our known universe. Either of those would negate the concept of spin.

Best regards,

Obsidience

it must do, if everythin in the universe is spinnin, then the universe must be also.

chek out nassim haramein.

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Interesting read & a nice video there!

Particulally liked the mandelbrot fractal parts - well trippy

Originally posted by Vipassana
If I understand M theory correctly the universe is a spinning vortex of vibrational bubbles merging and colliding within and without seperate dimensions. So basically I have no clue.

Great post!

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