Do you trust yourself?

My question is pretty simple. Do you trust yourself? My main reason for asking this is because of ATS itself. I love this website. It makes me think about things that I would have never thought of before.

I have always asked myself, "are we alone in this universe"? My mind always answers "No". I came to ATS to discuss why my mind answers that way. To see why others feel that way. Some feel that way because of hands on personal experience, others are more paranormal, and some...just like me, just feel it.

My one question, after reading a lot of the threads on here is, do you trust yourself?

Why bother with what the rest of the world does? Do you honestly think that you can stop the supposed NWO from taking power? They got this far without impedement, how can you change that? Communist, Socialist, Facist, Democratic....all those are just names.

No matter what the government takes away from you...guns, money, privacy, freedom of speech...can they take away how you look at your family? Can they take away the words of encouragement that you give a friend? Can they take away the feeling you get after you make it through a tough time, on your own, for the first time?

That's where my main question comes in. Too many people are looking to someone else for the answers that they need. Trust yourself. Trust those that you hold close to you, but most of all, just like our parents taught us when we were kids...don't trust strangers. Stop looking to government to fix your problems. You do what you think is right for you and yours.

Trust yourself more, and you will find that it is much more fulfilling than anything else.

hi there, ATS is not just NWO alone, it also has science and other interesting stuff, and I am here just for the science, and dont involve in the politics thread at all.

I have faith in myself. And my opinion is that if you dont believe yourself, life will be difficult.

reply to post by Chucktah


Man, no offense, but it's these kind of posts that give me the creeps. Here is why. I sum what I read as:

What can you do? Just give in and be thankful that you have these dear things. You don't need a nice home with running water. You live in a commune now. Just be happy you have each other.

Meanwhile, the elite of the species are living in the clouds!

Then, you say something about beware of strangers. So, don't seek support from your community during those rough times???

Is it just me or does anyone else get the same impression of these kinds of posts?





[edit on 1-2-2009 by TheSingularity]

reply to post by peacejet


I agree. People come to ATS for many different reasons.

My reason for asking that was why?

To put in simple words, "quest for knowledge"

LOL... I was referred to this website by a person I work with when he mentioned that there was allot of information going around about the global economic meltdown. Of course, the first thing I do is pull up "recent posts" and scan through them and of course I end up "commenting" on numerous topics that I find there.

I have learned allot about people with "strangely different" views here and have loved debunking numerous junk threads here as a great number of people here have an "agenda" to spread (Global Warming, Evangelical Aestheticism, etc.)

Plus I have found numerous news sources and stories that I would not find anywhere else.

It has been fun so far but sometimes frustrating.

Originally posted by TheSingularity

Is it just me or does anyone else get the same impression of these kinds of posts?

Yeah, I do get creeped out by the "there is nothing you can do, you should just be grateful for what you have, find inner peace and dont try to change things...." sort of posts.

I do trust myself. And myself says that you can have inner peace, and not just stand there like a moron chanting or meditating while the world goes to hell.

Myself says that the whole idea of that it is a black and white, either or choice to just stand around and do nothing or rage at the machine uselessly is false dichotomy. You can trust yourself, and have inner peace, and accept "What is" without standing there drooling doing nothing.

I dont meditate to make a beautiful garden. I look out my window, see and accept that there is a patch of dirt, and then I peacefully go out and start planting flowers. You dont have to be struggling against something to change things. In truth, even the meditating for years guy is changing something. The CO2 composition in the room he sits in if nothing else. We are acting all the time, why not use consciously directed action over time to manifest what you want to see in the world?

I dont know where the "dont do anything..... find peace within and ignore everything thats going on...." crap is coming from. Maybe it is the new religious "opiate of the masses" that is being dispersed now that people are getting tired of "suffering in life will ensure your place in heaven" line of BS.

reply to post by TheSingularity


I can see where you're coming from, having been down that road before. It "creeps" you out to think that way.

But you're looking at it from the wrong way, or perhaps just too closely. I don't think you understood what the OP was trying to say at all. S/he seemed to ask "where do you draw the line", and it's when you give answers like this, you demonstrate this fear paradigm as everyone who questions it being an "agent of the NWO".

The idea you would trust yourself or not is thus, connected to that idea.

But let me ask you, do you ever get sick of shifting blame, pointing fingers, or naming everyone you meet as a possible disinfo agent? Not everyone is, I can tell you that, and I get quite sick of 100 posts a day of people saying "TPB" and when someone like the OP comes by, points out everyone's complacency thus far, it's taken as a sign of "lie down, it's too late".

Shameful. Truly shameful.

Deny ignorance indeed.

[edit on 2-2-2009 by SpencerJ]

reply to post by Chucktah


Could you have posed a more open-ended question?

In the end it all comes down to personal perspective. Trust will vary dependent upon the subtopic involved, i.e. politics, religion, science, etc. One person might deem trust through an entirely different set of eyes than the next person.

Unless you care to narrow down the scope of conversation, I fear this thread might turn into a meandering, albeit moot, discussion.

Perhaps a better philosophical question would be simply be:
"What is trust and why is it essential to human nature?"

Originally posted by SpencerJ
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But you're looking at it from the wrong way, or perhaps just too closely. I don't think you understood what the OP was trying to say at all. S/he seemed to ask "where do you draw the line", and it's when you give answers like this, you demonstrate this fear paradigm as everyone who questions it being an "agent of the NWO".

I cant speak for TheSingularity, but I agree with the idea that this wasnt just a "dont blame others post." If it were, I would agree that simply blaming others is not the solution.

But there is more to the OP than simply dont blame.

He/She says;

Originally posted by Chucktah
Why bother with what the rest of the world does? Do you honestly think that you can stop the supposed NWO from taking power? They got this far without impedement, how can you change that? Communist, Socialist, Facist, Democratic....all those are just names.

How is that not saying "ignore whats going on, you cant stop it?"

Originally posted by Chucktah
No matter what the government takes away from you...guns, money, privacy, freedom of speech...can they take away how you look at your family? Can they take away the words of encouragement that you give a friend? Can they take away the feeling you get after you make it through a tough time, on your own, for the first time?

How is that not saying, "so what if they take everything from you, you can feel good no matter what?"

Now I personally agree, that if everything were taken from you, you DO still have a choice in how you deal with that emotionally. But I do not feel that the "ignore the problems, you cant stop it" is the answer.

Trusting yourself means also trusting that you CAN make a difference. One human being can change if not the whole world, a portion of it around you, and complacence and taking no action at all out of a sense of "you cant stop it" is a dangerous road to go down, in my opinion.

Who cares if it is a NWO or some organized conspiracy that is making the world a mess? What does it matter if there are NO masterminds and it is the result of sheer incompetence on the part of our leaders? How in either case does, "dont pay attention to it at all, it cant be stopped" offer any possibility of a better way of life?

You forget that EVERY single gain we have made, technologically, in terms of human rights, social structure, was instigated by someone who did exactly the opposite of what the OP is suggesting. They didnt just say, "oh well, nothing I can do here, I will be happy in my cave in the cold eating raw flesh." The actively looked at the situation they were in and they made some effort to change that.

Now perhaps one could argue that we should have stayed in the cave eating raw flesh. That may well be the case. I would certainly entertain that notion. But since we are long out of the cave, even getting back to it would require action, not complacency.

I agree with the given sentiment of the OP; finding the joy in your own vicinity and being true to yourself. If everyone would do it and keeps calm that would be helping the cause in a small but significant way. But if and when i get the chance i'll throw a stick in the machinery that is working against the general happyness. So as a daily general state of mind the OP has a good point and taking away the attention, anger and desperation to the things that are concieved will take away a part of it's power.

Originally posted by Harman
...and taking away the attention, anger and desperation to the things that are concieved will take away a part of it's power.

Man, that is just so wrong. I think you may be getting mixed-up between dealing with a person who is antagonizing you versus someone who is about to run you over with a bus! Suppressing your anger does not affect the machine about to chew you up. That's just crazy.

And today, we are being manipulated on very subtle levels, so it's easy to not get alarmed since there doesn't seem to be any immediate threat. You have to look ahead and see what these things lead to and then get angry and do something about it because if you wait until they come to take you it's too late.

Dag! I can't find the quote from a Nazi concentration camp prisoner but it goes something like this:

If only we had known of our final destination in the gas chambers, we would have not met our polite arresting officers with calm cooperation, but rather with axes and picks and crowbars and fought them to the death!

Does anyone know who I'm trying to quote?

Originally posted by Harman
So as a daily general state of mind the OP has a good point and taking away the attention, anger and desperation to the things that are concieved will take away a part of it's power.

Who says your only choice when faced with a situation you do not like is to be "angry" about it or do nothing?

Cant you take that calm state of mind and still create change?

Is it really an either or situation?

[edit on 4-2-2009 by Illusionsaregrander]