should the cannabis industry be supported in our current global downturn

reply to post by smallpeeps


you sure do have a way with words my friend
oops forgot to add a second line

[edit on 18-2-2009 by cooler]

Originally posted by stevegmu
Actually, I'm all for legalizing drugs- all of them- as long as they are free, or nearly free, as long as there are severe punishments for anyone doing them in public/driving/walking down the street high, and under the condition that anyone committing any crime while high be charged with a felony, and sentenced to work camps. The crime associated with drugs are what I have a problem with. The two inevitably go hand in hand, and always will- regardless of legality.

Ok, let me dissect this nonsense: You want people who are ' high' to be unable to walk down the street? Also, people can be charged with a crime when they commit one, regardless of whether or not they are high. You seem to be saying that people who have ingested some substance ( I assume you are including alcohol as well) should be taken to ' work camps' while the non- intoxicated felons get a pass? What?

Then,. you finally say what defines your logic: The crime associated with drugs go hand in hand...amnd always will. Huh? If Prohibition ended, then what crimes would be associated with the use of cannabis? ANSWER THAT please.

It is the ILLEGALITY itself that associates use of a harmless herb with any other criminal act...get it? If cannabis were legal, as well as all other drugs, there would be NO REASON to steal to get what you want. The cost would drop drastically as competition in the marketplace determines a price. If drugs were available cheaply, then no one would be forced to steal to get the high amounts of money needed to get their drug of choice.

Cannabis people do NOT steal and assault to get money for weed; it is always the hard drugs, the ones that cost the most, that make people desperate. If it was free or cheap, the associated crime goes away, thus disproving your ' logic' totally. it is common sense, after all.

Drug use should be a health matter, between doctors and patients, not cops. Of course, if someone under the influence commits a crime, they can and will be charged and the use of a drug is never an accepted excuse...so laws for that are already in place to handle that.

So what other logic can you show us? I only hope that it is better than the last one....you failed totally to make sense and use truth and facts.

Take the law away, take the Prohibition away, and the crime and problems go away..simple.Private conduct shouild NEVER be the business of anyoner else, and this nation sucks right now because private conduct is still being harrassed by the stinking feds and other cops...get them out of our lives and homes.

reply to post by smallpeeps


The problem is that our country is foundation on old customs that are now failing.

The corporations have kept there ground making it hard for different business to pop up.

Keeping hemp illegal is simply another reason to keep the market difficult, hemp would probably wipe out traditional companies in those categories that it affiliates under.

AMERICA IS BASED ON FREEDOM OF WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.

Go ahead Obama lets make a popular vote based on the PEOPLE not the senate not the house THE PEOPLE about what they think of Marijuana.

Sorry but our congress needs to be reformed it seems they no longer represent ME nor the majority nor the minority so what the *snip* are they representing.

I get heated on this subject as it just shows that the people are less powerful to the ones "representing" them.... BLEH, just like a presidential election, popular vote means nothing and is the reason bush was made president (GOOD JOB HE DID A WONDERFUL JOB!).

Originally posted by Psychonaughty
reply to post by smallpeeps

 

The problem is that our country is foundation on old customs that are now failing.

The corporations have kept there ground making it hard for different business to pop up.

Keeping hemp illegal is simply another reason to keep the market difficult, hemp would probably wipe out traditional companies in those categories that it affiliates under.

AMERICA IS BASED ON FREEDOM OF WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.

Go ahead Obama lets make a popular vote based on the PEOPLE not the senate not the house THE PEOPLE about what they think of Marijuana.

Sorry but our congress needs to be reformed it seems they no longer represent ME nor the majority nor the minority so what the *snip* are they representing.

I get heated on this subject as it just shows that the people are less powerful to the ones "representing" them.... BLEH, just like a presidential election, popular vote means nothing and is the reason bush was made president (GOOD JOB HE DID A WONDERFUL JOB!).

perhaps what americans should do is to have a national cannabis planting day where people just plant cannabis on road sides, roudabouts, parks, infact any where realy. who knows it could become a huge event ???

im not sure if every one recieved a message from ats mods yesterday, if not it went some thing like this:
over the past 4 weeks ats has allowed members to discus drugs, this has been allowed to see if the taboo subject of drugs could be debated responsibly.
evedently this has not happed as ats will now no longer allow drugs as a subject matter, & points out that there are many other sites on the web dealing with this taboo subject.
well for now i remain greatful to ats mods for not removing this thread as it also deals with the taboo subject of cannabis, but on an industrial level, but any one reading through the reply`s will have to agree that part of industrial cannabis includes the most taboo part of the plant, the buds/flowers/hashish/oils.
it is not posible to deal with cannabis as an industry without bringing the whole taboo plant into the thread.
any way once again ide like to thank the mods for allowing this thread to continue.
wich i think is important & at present in cali the local government has brought cannabis into the news with suggestions that it may be taxed due to the massive revenue cali is not getting from current cannabis use,
is this the beginning of cannabis making a comeback ?, will this new thinking out of the box spread to other states ?, the posible use of cannabis in industry may well convince other states to take a similar stance on cannabis considering the national debt.
i think a funny thing needs to be pointed out here that for decades the government has persicuted cannabis users & banned the use of cannabis in wider industry, & now every ones up to there eye balls in debt, they now want us cannabis users to bail them out,
you have to see the funny side of this, not to mention the double standards.
times are changing, maybe the sight of miles & miles of hemp fields sustaining industry will be a sight i will see in my life.