US govt mind control

Unfortunately there is no source that I can give you for Strong AI. The AI uses a sophisticated form of neural networks and this technology (Strong AI) is just one of the govt secrets.

See we all are limited by the information that we get from the internet and other sources so u will think that there is no Strong AI, but it exists

Originally posted by sunny_2008ny


Important channels like CNN are monitored this way to ensure that they say only what is acceptable to the govt.



[edit on 30-1-2009 by sunny_2008ny]

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well it certainly isn't working on lou dobbs

somebody better tell them to turn up the frequency kenneth


while this seems hard to believe,,,,,all those patents are pretty damning

and i guess we as humans can only relate to things we can see or things of similarity,,, so this is somewhat hard to grasp or believe


i watched some clips from you tube of people swearing they're stalked or manipulated,,,, they seem sincere and telling the truth,,, especially the older black lady in here 70's

you got me thinking,,,,and

i was reading this link on rense the other day for kicks,,,seems crazy

www.rense.com...

but it talks of the russians and energetics

it seems similar to what your talking about

the things that can be done with these technologies is scary


any good links on energetics ,, besides tom bearden and such????

If they are "controlling our minds" how on earth did they allow you to post this? I would think that pin-pointing you would be of utmost importance to them since the gov't knows that you know their secret and you just posted it for every internet user in the world.

I call BS!

Has there been any information or evidence regarding the use of thermography being used with satellites? Thermography measures heat points (like 65,000 from the face alone) and generates an individual indentification so far beyond something like fingerprinting. If the satellites can see every square inch of the earth, why couldn't they infuse thermographic technology and be able to locate and track individuals- no matter where you go? Any feedback on that?

Mind control hardware not working on Russia, DPRK, Iran, Taliban, Iraq, etc. or the global economy.

Fake media stories also known as psyops or co-intel to see who bites and then target the receptive audience with more fear laden agitprop in order to manipulate them. Works best on weak minds who are media saturated and lack macro abilities aka sheeple. Those that crack are put on meds or they self medicate, then the real stupidity begins aka dependency, addiction and early death.



[edit on 31-1-2009 by Regenmacher]

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Did you realize its not fear based anymore in the great land of America? It's False Hope, which is more dangerous than fear.

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False hopes and empty promises in politicians works up until election day, then their actions in office dispel those childish illusions. Honeymoon facade over, and poof it's the samo samo song and dance from the DC puppet show: We need $825 billion more for the pizzo bailout, cause the Wall Street mafia is working the strings. We also need to double our forces in Afghanistan and the troops will stay in Iraq, because the MIC is still the Godfather.


After eleven days in office,
Newsweek puts Obama in Vietnam

Guns and Butter (Again)

reply to post by sunny_2008ny

I have some follow-up questions:

1. Can you share some of your personal experience?
2. Do you have any suggestions on how to stop this system outside of technology (for example: politics, raising awareness)?
3. "a second wave of a different frequency is mixed that somehow amplifies the original wave"
Does this imply a high-powered radar jammer?
4. Could one of these be built from off-the-shelf parts? If so, how?
5. How would you account for evasion techniques such as frequency hopping and masking with noise?
6. Could an electromagnetic receiver be built from off-the-shelf parts which could detect these signals and prove their existence? If so, how?
7. "Frequencies in the range of 8-10 are used" Why?
8. Does the computer remotely detect brain states with ELF (or pseudo-ELF) frequencies through radar? If so, what is the physical mechanism?
9. Could the ELF waves be transmitted from a ground based transmitter and bounced off the atmosphere like over-the-horizon radar excluding the need for satellites?
10. If so, how do you account for the bandwidth constraints of ELF?

I know this is a lot but maybe you can help elucidate these issues.

[edit on 1-2-2009 by tmk81]

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Hi tmk
Here are ur answers

1. Can you share some of your personal experience?
A) My personal experience has been knowledge of this system through people talking to me in my head and also communicating telepathically. The US govt uses this technology to read the minds of terrorists and I have some knowledge about it

2. Do you have any suggestions on how to stop this system outside of technology (for example: politics, raising awareness)?
A) Since this is an invasive technology, it will never be made public. Only people who experience it can share it with each other. I believe though that the mind reading helmets that the US military is working on would become common communication channels in a few hundred years from now

3. "a second wave of a different frequency is mixed that somehow amplifies the original wave"
Does this imply a high-powered radar jammer?
A) I am not a technical expert in that but I can say that the second wave results in some distortion of the first one as a result of which the original wave is not recognized by the brain of the person, although it reaches the brain, that is it, is of a frequency that is not reconized by the brain

4. Could one of these be built from off-the-shelf parts? If so, how?
A) I dont think it can be built that way, plus it is a very expensive technology


5. How would you account for evasion techniques such as frequency hopping and masking with noise?
A) I am not sure about these technical terms

6. Could an electromagnetic receiver be built from off-the-shelf parts which could detect these signals and prove their existence? If so, how?
A)I believe technically it is possible to build such a reciever and then place it just above the person's head to measure the signals

7. "Frequencies in the range of 8-10 are used" Why?
A) That is the frequency which is most ideal for human brain

8. Does the computer remotely detect brain states with ELF (or pseudo-ELF) frequencies through radar? If so, what is the physical mechanism?
A)The people I talk to would not reveal much on this to me except that the ELF are detected by a satellite. The satellite does what an EEG would do on the ground


9. Could the ELF waves be transmitted from a ground based transmitter and bounced off the atmosphere like over-the-horizon radar excluding the need for satellites?
A) Yes they could but then very complex calculations will have to performed. Remember the reason they are doing it through the satellite is that the satelite can lock in to a person's position even when the person is in motion. Since ELF tend to bounce off the stratosshpere, when they leave the satellite they are of a higher frequency and then they eventually reach ELF by the time they reach the peroson's brain. This is the little secret behind this, but honestly I do not know much about this technically

10. If so, how do you account for the bandwidth constraints of ELF?
A) Would like to know more about this from you!

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Hi tmk81
Based on the thread you have in your signature, I can tell you that the US govt is reading your mind and trying to manipulate it. Based on what you have written you have been harrassed by the US govt for some reason. Is it still going on? It is not the military, its the US govt (and who the Prez is really doesnt matter)

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Based on the thread you have in your signature, I can tell you that the US govt is reading your mind and trying to manipulate it. Based on what you have written you have been harrassed by the US govt for some reason. Is it still going on? It is not the military, its the US govt (and who the Prez is really doesnt matter)

Yes, this system continues to abuse me daily. [EDIT]

I think it is run by an unknown agency supervised by the United States Department of Defense since this system relates to both national security and the military. Is this who you mean by the US government?

[edit on 3-2-2009 by tmk81]

one of the best exemple of US govt mind control, is the propaganda campaign
of the Fox, tv serie ( 24 ), used, to promote obama, as the next, nwo president.
Muslim therorists threat, to justify wars to control middle east
and to brainwashe populations, to blindly trust govs decisions like, bailout,
1984 laws, geo-political decisions, martial law etc.

It's REAL. Nevermind the constant complaints I won't do exactly what they want...when they want...

but, as anyone with ears can tell you: "They control MEEEE." In total, including all aspects of my life. From predetermined FAILURE; to the everlasting "wait 'til the next guy has to say what he has to say..."

This is no joke. It's well beyond brain washing. Where it takes years of coinciding arguments to come to a decisive stance. It's AUTOMATIC.

They'll tell you it's impossible, only to have you believe that one. Then, they state what you know for fact is a figment of their imagination, so THEY don't have to deal with it...wait, that's something of an internal form...they're fighting it right NOW!!! with their lip-smack.

What to do... ...

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This may sound a bit snippy...but both of you (tmk as well) have only communicated a technical understanding of the subject...to whatever extent...and you sunny have only alluded to the possibility that you have had direct interaction with a guy you know who has some info and experience with what you have potentially cherry picked from Nexus Magazine and wikipedia.

I suppose what I am trying to question is whether or not you guys have any direct experience and want to tell any stories of your personal experience to perhaps gauge the accuracy of anything you are trying to convey. I have communicated in the third link in my signature some very personal examples of how covert interaction with this type of manipulation has occurred...there all over the thread (the overall interaction is in a sort of 'remission' right now save for the godamned voices).

As I said...a bit snippy this post is but it seems interesting to me that a few people are coming out with all of this supposition that may be accurate but no actual experience communicated (except for the ever popular "I can't divulge my government source")...and I am frustrated because all I have is experience...

/Rant.

Originally posted by sunny_2008ny
6. Could an electromagnetic receiver be built from off-the-shelf parts which could detect these signals and prove their existence? If so, how?
A)I believe technically it is possible to build such a reciever and then place it just above the person's head to measure the signals

And after my rant...is there any supposition you may have on how to build one of these things?

I have looked through many a website where it is possible to purchase 'government quality' RF/Bug Detectors...and in my opinion, in order to be completely sure either for or against one would need to spend at the least a couple of thousand dollars to gain a piece of equipment that covers the widest possible spectrum...

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My experiences started in 2004 when a voice spoke into my head and said that this was the US government. Apparently someone had written a threatening letter to Bush in my name (turned out to be a prank by someone, but no one knows who, the letter was signed as Al Qaeda). In the next few days the voice told me all about this and also told me that I was being screened thoroughly by the Secret Service and that there is nothing to worry.

They then told me details about mind control and how it works, the technology behind it and the difficulties faced by them in overcoming what turns out to be one of the biggest accomplishments of mankind.

Since 2004 it has been a long journey and I still communicate personally with these people.

More on my personal experience in a latter post

BTW memoryshock, I am willing to pass a lie detector test for this and I havent flicked anything from the internet or Wikipedia and I can vouch that tmk81 is also experiencing what he says

[edit on 2-2-2009 by sunny_2008ny]

Originally posted by sunny_2008ny
BTW memoryshock, I am willing to pass a lie detector test for this and I havent flicked anything from the internet or Wikipedia and I can vouch that tmk81 is also experiencing what he says

I wasn't necessarily accusing you or tmk of misrepresentation...though I am curious as to how you can vouch with certainty for another person based on internet communications.

I am of the impression that for a psy-ops to be workable and relevant that there would necessarily be people that are interacted with in real time. What is the purpose of attempting to "mind control" from afar if there is no real world purpose? It just doesn't make sense to transmit and recieve data without any personal interaction and follow-up.

I can"vouch" for my experiences and I can vouch that there are certain experiences in my life that necessarily denote that there are real world interactions (while I am pissed at several of them I feel no direct threat, hence some of my lack of motivation toward the subject. Then again, I spend all of my time on the internet and avoid any actual social interaction so my apathy extends to all aspects of my life).

Discussing the hows and whys is a valuable excercise but what of it? Hypnosis and dream manipulations and other subversive strategies is a direct implication of a desire to manipulate behaviour.

What is the point if the behaviour isn't interacted with by any of the manipulators?

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When tmk replied to my post I had not read any threads started by him or any of his posts. Then I read his threads and he had vividly described in his threads "his" experiences. He also claimed that it was the US military. So I have been communicating with him on U2U about his expereinces. What he thinks is the military is in fact the US govt. I am convinced that his experiences are genuine

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Here are some of the secrets revealed to me by the people who communicate with me. (its a mix of speech and telepathy and it is real time)

1) Osama was killed by mind control
2) Zawahiri's mind is being read and controlled by the US govt
3) Diana was killed through mind control
4) Telekinesis is possible through mind control